EPTI can grant you that Obama is more experienced than Palin, but not much. Certainly not enough to claim as the Obama campaign is that he is qualified to be president and she is not.
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NovaTheFeared
United States7231 Posts
I can grant you that Obama is more experienced than Palin, but not much. Certainly not enough to claim as the Obama campaign is that he is qualified to be president and she is not. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 30 2008 06:31 NovaTheFeared wrote: 7-8 years in a state senate is not a high office qualifying one for the presidency either. Especially when his career in that senate was largely anonymous. I can grant you that Obama is more experienced than Palin, but not much. Certainly not enough to claim as the Obama campaign is that he is qualified to be president and she is not. Maybe, but he does have back up. For McCain, she is the back up. Also, McCain has been running on experience as his platform. Lets just say McCain/Biden represent experience and Obama/Palin represent change. Make believe that you can actually quantify those two characteristics (yes, this is absolute bullshit.) Who comes out on top overall in McCain/Palin vs Obama/Biden. I think Obiden wins in a landslide. | ||
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a-game
Canada5117 Posts
On August 30 2008 06:19 NovaTheFeared wrote: I believe the quote was that having Palin a heartbeat away from the Presidency was irresponsible. Obama has a very similar amount of experience and less achievements, is it irresponsible to elect him? Source? Here's the only negative statement I found: Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency," said Obama spox Bill Burton. "Gov. Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil, and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same. Edit: this must be the statement you were referring to, but it's a bit more nuanced than you described | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
http://vpilf.com/ | ||
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Folca
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sith
United States2474 Posts
On August 30 2008 06:31 NovaTheFeared wrote: 7-8 years in a state senate is not a high office qualifying one for the presidency either. Especially when his career in that senate was largely anonymous. I can grant you that Obama is more experienced than Palin, but not much. Certainly not enough to claim as the Obama campaign is that he is qualified to be president and she is not. I disagree that Obama is more experienced. Palin has been in an executive office now for a similar amount of time that Obama has been a senator, but she's actually been doing work rather than simply campaigning nonstop. Can you really call simply voting with your party "experience" either? Barack Obama has missed 290 votes (45.5%) during the current Congress. Barack Obama has voted with a majority of his Democratic colleagues 96.0% of the time during the current Congress. This percentage does not include votes in which Obama did not vote. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/ Sounds like he's really been doing his job, he'll make a great president. | ||
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Kaesi
United States82 Posts
On August 30 2008 06:31 NovaTheFeared wrote: 7-8 years in a state senate is not a high office qualifying one for the presidency either. Especially when his career in that senate was largely anonymous. I can grant you that Obama is more experienced than Palin, but not much. Certainly not enough to claim as the Obama campaign is that he is qualified to be president and she is not. I'm an Obama supporter, but to add to this comment, exactly what part of the Senate prepares someone to make decisions in the Oval Office? Since when has legislative work been pertinent experience for being a commander-in-chief? Is it supposed to suggest savvy in forming voting majorities? Isn't that what the election proves? Is it supposed to imply a strong grasp of diplomacy? Again, isn't that what the election proves? I don't understand what part of the executive command is so similar to the legislative process. Can anyone explain this to me? In my opinion, governors and mayors share a much more similar role to the presidency than a Senate position does. Senators are legislative. They rule over subcommittees, fair enough, but that's a far cry from the role of a governor. A governor straight up runs a state, balances its budget (at least they're supposed to), and has to juggle the various political factions in a state to keep them at least happy enough to form a voting majority, while not breaking the state's finances to keep them that way. To me, a Senate position just does not have the same kind of responsibilities. It's a helluva lot more political hobnobbing, pork bellies, and lobbyist dinners on Capitol Hill. At the same time, a President's role is to be the face of the administration. It's his role to serve as the ideological leader and guide of the nation. It's not always to micromanage a country of 300 million. Obama's got the charisma, he's got the idealism, and he's got the pedigree to put our country on the right track. Sure, a candidate could always be better, but tbh, I'd be suspicious if I ran into a candidate that was TOO perfect for the presidency. That screams groomed to me. AKA George Bush Sr. AKA a dynasty. Obama's a good man for the times, and a brilliant politician in general. I LIKE HIS BALLS!!! His wife could be hotter tho. McCain's wife was milfy in her time... and she's Princess Budweiser. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
And a WTF moment: They only met once, that was in Feb of this year! edit: I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?- Sarah Palin | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7231 Posts
It seems one of his staff members spoke out of turn regarding Palin and honestly it would be very unwise to go after Palin on this front because focusing the attention on who's the most experienced candidate is always going to backfire on Obama. | ||
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
if mccain get elected and dies in office (hes fucking 72 there is definitely a chance) then we are stuck with the fucking 1 year governor of FUCKING ALASKA as president of the FUCKING MOST POWERFUL NATION ON EARTH WHAT THE FUCK! | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
The choice also serves a second purpose by placating the staunch conservatives who are angered by McCain's reasonable stance on immigration. He need to do more latino bashing if he wants to placate them. Or choose a rapid pro-life, oil friendly veep candidate. Either way. | ||
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Silverflame
United States428 Posts
But Sarah Palin we know nothing about. There's only two months before the election. The sole purpose of the Vice President is to be ready to step up and become President. Can anyone imagine her as commander in chief? Does anyone even have a clue what that would be like? It's pretty obvious to me McCain was originally going with someone like Mitt or Pawlenty and changed his mind at last minute. Judging by Pawlenty and Romney's anger or how TX Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (a female GOP elected official far more qualified than Palin) said she knows nothing about her, even the Republican party is confused over the pick. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments. And as her pick for VP, well: What is it exactly that the vice president does all day? Those are two commercials right there, put those in battleground states could show some results. EDIT: More stuff: Palin Pleased with Obama's Energy Plan Cached version, the original document has been removed recently(uh huh). | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
To think someone with that level of cluelessness can potentially become the most powerful/influential person on this planet? | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On August 30 2008 08:36 alphafuzard wrote: jesus christ if mccain get elected and dies in office (hes fucking 72 there is definitely a chance) then we are stuck with the fucking 1 year governor of FUCKING ALASKA as president of the FUCKING MOST POWERFUL NATION ON EARTH WHAT THE FUCK! Amen Mccain's choice of VP was the most epic fail I've seen for a long time | ||
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