EPT2008 US Presidential Election - Page 46
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Manifesto7
Osaka27177 Posts
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
due to john edwards delegates switching to obama and the final tally from california being completed, obama increases his lead over clinton by 12 delegates. to give you an idea of how significant that is, clinton's win in ohio only brought her 9 delegates. obama now has at least a 170 pledged delegate lead and it's growing increasingly likely that clinton will face pressure from within the party to concede as she faces a huckabee-esque gap to close. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 17 2008 08:10 a-game wrote: massive blow to clinton. due to john edwards delegates switching to obama and the final tally from california being completed, obama increases his lead over clinton by 12 delegates. to give you an idea of how significant that is, clinton's win in ohio only brought her 9 delegates. obama now has at least a 170 pledged delegate lead and it's growing increasingly likely that clinton will face pressure from within the party to concede as she faces a huckabee-esque gap to close. But what kind of Delegates, does she not still lead in super delegates? | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 16 2008 20:10 Manifesto7 wrote: BWahahaha, I love Colbert. <embed FlashVars='videoId=164011' src='http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/video_player/view/default/swf.jhtml' quality='high' bgcolor='#cccccc' width='332' height='316' name='comedy_central_player' align='middle' allowScriptAccess='always' allownetworking='external' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer'></embed> its amazing how their player never works for a lot of people and they still dont fix it | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On March 17 2008 10:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: But what kind of Delegates, does she not still lead in super delegates? sure she leads in super dels but obama's on pace to have 140-150 elected delegate lead no matter what happens in the primaries, and there's no way in hell the super dels over turn that big of an elected delegate lead. also the highest ranking democrat and chairwoman of the convention nancy pelosi has said outright that superdelegates are not welcome to overturn the elected delegate winner. i really wouldn't worry about the superdelegates unless obama's lead in elected delegates shrinks. and besides, for the last month plus now obama has been raking in superdelegates way faster than clinton. she can still fight on but 170 delegats is a massive lead, i really think before pennsylvania we are going to see her get pressured big time to concede. | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On March 17 2008 10:28 fusionsdf wrote: its amazing how their player never works for a lot of people and they still dont fix it won't work for canadian IP's read my pm | ||
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The Storyteller
Singapore2486 Posts
On March 13 2008 17:38 Scorch wrote: in a proportional voting system, everybody's vote counts the same, regardless of where they come from. campaigning would thus have to be countrywide, ignoring all small states costs too many votes. for my democratic understanding, it should not suffice to win a number of states with 50.001% of votes and lose horribly in the rest. since small states send only few delegates, they cannot profit all too much over the large states from the delegate system (only speculating, i don't know figures). i don't see why the small states would be sharply against a change. You have to look at the proportion of electors to the population base. For example, Florida has a population of about 18,000,000. Under a proportional voting system, Vermont, with a population of about 623,000, would be fewer than 29 times less important. However, Florida gets 27 elector and Vermont gets 3. So under the elctoral college system, Vermont is only 9 times less important than Florida. I think the same facts hold true in Alaska. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On March 17 2008 15:31 The Storyteller wrote: You have to look at the proportion of electors to the population base. For example, Florida has a population of about 18,000,000. Under a proportional voting system, Vermont, with a population of about 623,000, would be fewer than 29 times less important. However, Florida gets 27 elector and Vermont gets 3. So under the elctoral college system, Vermont is only 9 times less important than Florida. I think the same facts hold true in Alaska. The number of electoral votes is the sum of senators and representatives representing the state in congress, therefore every state possesses two votes plus a minimum of one vote, which is a fair compromise under a republican system which is not merely majoritarianism, but attempts to give elbow room to interested minority communities (in the case of the American bicameral legislature, the equal representation of all states in the senate.) It is a misfortune that the meltdown of the dollar (which is being made perpectually worse by government rebates, bailouts and lowering interest rates every week) has only occurred after the majority of the primaries, else the one candidate who addresses this problem would have earned greater attention. Forget about universal healthcare. No one with elementary arithmatic will believe the country can afford it anymore. | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
On March 14 2008 00:06 Flaccid wrote: He may be preachy and opinionated, but rarely will you hear the nastiness of the Clinton campaign laid out more eloquently: Kieth makes me so hard | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
interesting | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
i'd like to see campaigns carried out with a bit of dignity for once. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
Not hard to imagine certain people taking that oportunity to trashtalk obama | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
hahaha | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On March 18 2008 09:06 fusionsdf wrote: its kind of weird how hes been more respectful than hillary hahaha i dunno, she's got nothing to lose, unlike mccain | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
McCain Favorable 54 Unfavorable 42 +12 Obama Favorable 47 Unfavorable 50 -3 Clinton Favorable 46 Unfavorable 52 -6 /Rasmussen The electoral map and, I believe, political climate still favor the Democrats in the general election but the more Clinton tries to claw Obama's eyes out the worse things will be for the Democrat in November. McCain is doing an excellent job of following a basic political rule: when your opponent is committing suicide stay out of the way. *:Source | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
"Once African-Americans understood that they had a candidate with a serious chance to win the nomination and perhaps the presidency, then it was going to be a question of somewhere between 80 percent and 90 percent were going to support him except in areas where she had particularly strong profile," - Bill Clinton bill clinton is such an asshat. we don't want people voting for someone because they share our gender or ethnicity, he should be discouraging that kind of identity politics, but instead he's encouraging it consistently. i don't even know why this guy thinks he's a democrat. gtfo. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On March 18 2008 09:32 a-game wrote: bill clinton is such an asshat. we don't want people voting for someone because they share our gender or ethnicity, he should be discouraging that kind of identity politics, but instead he's encouraging it consistently. i don't even know why this guy thinks he's a democrat. gtfo. he's right, 90 % of blacks voted for obama in MS. it doesn't take credit away from obama's campaign but still. | ||
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