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Dendra
Croatia801 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
WWRD?! mantoss would tough it up and man it out. You did have a girlfriend, there's nothing preventing you from getting one in the future. Rek's general advice is pretty decent in this situation - don't get hung up over a girl or other people. Find something you really enjoy doing. Pursue it. Likely there are people who share similar passion as you, and you can get friends from that :D But offing yourself? Really not the right thing to do in any case. | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
On March 26 2007 16:42 Rekrul wrote: All of the qualities which cause people to love you are qualities that are pretty much out of your control. The way you look (ok you can control that a bit), your personality, how nice you are, your wit...you may think you control these things but ultimately you don't. You have what you have. Girls will love you for reasons out of your and their power....just as your parents love you innately. Shut the fuck up already. I don't see the point of your post. I don't know if you're right with values and if I can or can't control them, but that's beside the point, isn't it? I still wish to mean something to somebody and to be loved for what I am and "what I have". Girls will still love me in another way than my parents and that's the difference I'm pointing at. They may love me innately or not, but I want them to meet me from scratch, understand me and then love me from that. And yes I sound like a whiner(this entire topic has been one long whine, I guess), but the point still stands, I don't believe I mean anything to anybody regardless of innate love or not, I feel utterly worthless and incapable of being innately loved by someone else than my parents. If you really do think I should shut the fuck up then please send me a PM and I will stop replying to this topic. Or close it, ban me - I don't really have a say, I guess. For now, I'll go to bed, see how the morning turns out. Thanks again to everyone for the replies, it helped me think through this in a way I couldn't have done alone. Thanks for all PMs, thanks a lot. | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
 Really though why won't girls go out with you? Just say 1 thing funny and their yours, don't matter how unattractive you are. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On March 26 2007 17:00 Ethenielle wrote: I don't see the point of your post. I don't know if you're right with values and if I can or can't control them, but that's beside the point, isn't it? I still wish to mean something to somebody and to be loved for what I am and "what I have". Girls will still love me in another way than my parents and that's the difference I'm pointing at. They may love me innately or not, but I want them to meet me from scratch, understand me and then love me from that. And yes I sound like a whiner(this entire topic has been one long whine, I guess), but the point still stands, I don't believe I mean anything to anybody regardless of innate love or not, I feel utterly worthless and incapable of being innately loved by someone else than my parents. If you really do think I should shut the fuck up then please send me a PM and I will stop replying to this topic. Or close it, ban me - I don't really have a say, I guess. For now, I'll go to bed, see how the morning turns out. Thanks again to everyone for the replies, it helped me think through this in a way I couldn't have done alone. Thanks for all PMs, thanks a lot. Shut the fuck up only means I love you. Innately. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
That ain't gunna happen if you kill yourself you stupid fuck. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 26 2007 17:00 Ethenielle wrote: I don't see the point of your post. I don't know if you're right with values and if I can or can't control them, but that's beside the point, isn't it? I still wish to mean something to somebody and to be loved for what I am and "what I have". Girls will still love me in another way than my parents and that's the difference I'm pointing at. They may love me innately or not, but I want them to meet me from scratch, understand me and then love me from that. And yes I sound like a whiner(this entire topic has been one long whine, I guess), but the point still stands, I don't believe I mean anything to anybody regardless of innate love or not, I feel utterly worthless and incapable of being innately loved by someone else than my parents. If you really do think I should shut the fuck up then please send me a PM and I will stop replying to this topic. Or close it, ban me - I don't really have a say, I guess. For now, I'll go to bed, see how the morning turns out. Thanks again to everyone for the replies, it helped me think through this in a way I couldn't have done alone. Thanks for all PMs, thanks a lot. stop debating stop questioning stop reasoning stop providing hypotheticals stop arguing Accept things for what they are and nothing more. Grab your life by the hair and ride it into the sunset or whatever the fuck terrible metaphor will get through to you. Go to bed. Wake up tomorrow and go for a run. A long one. And never post in this thread again. You have realized that your present life is terrible, now its time to be a man and do something about it. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Who closed it? I'll just re-open it and the moderator who closes it should put up a reason for the closing. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On March 26 2007 17:05 Rekrul wrote: I still wish to mean something to somebody and to be loved for what I am and "what I have". That ain't gunna happen if you kill yourself you stupid fuck. lol.. sad but funny. | ||
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Vin{MBL}
5185 Posts
he just replies to the advice saying "my life sucks so bad i cant do this i suck too much" please, tl.net is not the place for this... see a psychiatrist | ||
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
and it's a goodie! | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27173 Posts
I mean really, the table tennis club just walked by my office... I should have taken a picture to show you what REAL ugly looks like. I have very little sympathy for people who wallow in self-pity like this. If you are feeling like you have real issues, go talk to a trained professional. You can find one in your town, at your school, at a hospital, in a church... but go talk to somebody real. Take the advice of Fakesteve, his was probably the best post in this thread. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 26 2007 09:38 Ethenielle wrote: Let me start off by saying I'm feeling horrible. Absolutely, completely crushed beyond all recognition. Pick the worst moment of your life and amplify it a thousand times, there you got me. My "soul" is irreversibly smashed. All life I've been a pretty ugly guy. When I was a kid in elementary(is this the first school you go to? I'm guessing, English isn't my native language) people used to ask me "so, are you a girl or a boy?" and stuff like that. I was pushed around and generally not liked by anyone in particular. So I got to High School(I'm guessing, again) and I got acne. Didn't make it any better, as people now ran around shouting at me and calling me ugly all the time. I was constantly harrassed 24/7, even on the internet I wasn't left alone. Now I'm not so ugly anymore, and I've had a girlfriend for half a year or so. But, as it turns out, now she suddenly doesn't have any feelings for me anymore, so she broke up. And now, I'm completely alone again, with no real friends to speak of. No one's calling me to ask me out, no one wants to do anything with me. That's essentially why I now am considering and actually planning suicide, because I'm such a worthless piece of shit that no one likes. When I die, only my parents will mourn, my friends may shed a few tears and forget me in a couple of months. So as it turns out, I don't mean anything to anyone EXCEPT my parents, which is my current problem. I'm feeling so bad I could kill myself without regret within the second if offered the opportunity. But, my parents. My mother thinks very highly of me and loves me a LOT. Really a lot. She's called the police couple of times before when she didn't know where I was for a couple of hours. And she may kill herself if I commit suicide, I don't really know. My father may protect her and keep her alive until the worst sorrow has gone, but I fear she may turn mad or something like that. Blame it all on herself. I really, really, really do not want to do this to my parents, but on the other hand I'm feeling so fucking terrible now I'm barely sleeping and not eating. I'm thinking of committing suicide tomorrow morning, throw myself before a train. I think that's fairly painless and quick, which is what I want. But there is the problem with my parents, because I cannot do either. I can't stay alive because it hurts so much for me, but I can't kill myself because it hurts so much for them. So now I end up asking advice on teamliquid because I don't have anywhere else to go. I can't really tell anyone I know in real life, because they'd probably lock me up and tell me I'm mentally ill(well, that's true, but I'm not mad or anything, just insanely insanely low). What should I do? What's the RIGHT thing? Is it very selfish to kill myself when I feel this pain all day and all night? Do you think my parents will get over it? Can my suicide be morally defended? I honestly don't know. I'm hoping for a few opinions and answers, whatever you can give. Also, feel free to joke away and flame me, at this point it really doesn't bother me at all. As long as you have your fun, it's all fine by me. I am entering this thread late, but heres my advice anyways. Times like this are pretty much unavoidable. Its all about identity. The choice is yours, but I'm telling you now that if you do manage to discover your identity you will find it almost impossible to be this depressed ever again. So please, just try to figure out who you are. Not in relation to your parents, the expectations of others, your friends or any of that. Just who you are at the most basic level. What is your personality? Who are you? | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Ethenielle = IcedEarth's new ID on TL.net ? ? ? ? ? ? !!!! | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Bearwoman
New Zealand13 Posts
On March 26 2007 15:31 Eatme wrote: It sickens me when religious people prey on someone when they are sad, lonely, weak and vulnerable. Everyone has a right to their own faith but this is not a good time to break out the bible and bible quotes. I dont want to flame but felt like I hade to say this. ignorant bigot  | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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_PulSe_
United States541 Posts
If you think thats not for you, even though you have to do that, you need to keep yourself busy. Be determined to make something of youself. You need to set yourself up a schedual and follow it religiously. If you always have something to do you begin to focus and look at positive things. Pick up running, join local chess clubs or what-not. You just have to be sure that you keep youself busy. Take up a new hobby that you wouldn't usually find. Focusing your energies on something besides youself is the only way you can get through this alone, even though you have us My advice would be that you NEED to talk face to face with another human being. Not everyone out there is an asshole and as you can tell by the amount of posts coming back on this people care. Find somebody. If you can come to us with this go to a local doctor, or pretty much anywhere. Volunteer at an old folks home. No matter how rediculous it sounds old people are nice as hell and they are probably some of the wisest people you will ever meet. Keep youself busy man and know there are people there for you. And even if its your parents keeping you alive as of now, they will not get over this. My father once told me that his worst fear on the planet would be to bury one of his children. I believe this is the case for any parent. | ||
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