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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:39 nimbim wrote: Where do people go for theorycrafting discussions these days? I used to visit elitistjerks, but they have vanished for various reasons. The class discord channels | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:39 nimbim wrote: Where do people go for theorycrafting discussions these days? I used to visit elitistjerks, but they have vanished for various reasons. I don't know about other classes but there have been some good discussions on MMO-C for priests. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:39 nimbim wrote: Where do people go for theorycrafting discussions these days? I used to visit elitistjerks, but they have vanished for various reasons. It's splintered and there isn't one central for everything. Right now class discords are the most central thing. Some use mmoc class forums and some classes like mages have their own good forum https://www.altered-time.com/forum/ On August 02 2016 04:43 Gorsameth wrote: I don't know about other classes but there have been some good discussions on MMO-C for priests. For priests H2P and the discord is where the TC is and usually guides in mmoc are from there. Who knows why they this time made their own shadow guide. In case someone is coming back and simply doesn't know, never use noxxic and Icy-Veins can have some useful information but if you're really looking for mythic raiding you're better off searching class specific things. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On August 02 2016 06:06 DCRed wrote: It's splintered and there isn't one central for everything. Right now class discords are the most central thing. Some use mmoc class forums and some classes like mages have their own good forum https://www.altered-time.com/forum/ For priests H2P and the discord is where the TC is and usually guides in mmoc are from there. Who knows why they this time made their own shadow guide. In case someone is coming back and simply doesn't know, never use noxxic and Icy-Veins can have some useful information but if you're really looking for mythic raiding you're better off searching class specific things. I must be missing something because H2P seems pretty dead. The holy forum hasn't had a post since early april. Shadow goes days without a post. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
On August 02 2016 06:21 Gorsameth wrote: I must be missing something because H2P seems pretty dead. The holy forum hasn't had a post since early april. Shadow goes days without a post. The guy working on holy and disc guides left h2p and asked to have his guides removed. There is apparently some people trying to make a new healer based theorycraft site, something like summonstone that's supposedly launching in legion. We'll see how that is going to pan out. Forums are always pretty quiet at this time of expansion, and now with discord the discussion goes on there daily. Once legion hits there will be people asking the same questions everyday. Holy and Disc guides will be there along with boss specific threads for helping out on those and the general help me threads. Also the forums got most of WoD stuff archived which why it looks like there is nothing right now. The old posts can still be seen in archived section. Many people post on mmoc forums as well but they notorious for what they are, useful for a laugh sometimes but the stupidity can get overwhelming at times. | ||
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
Same thing for mythic dungeons... I don't understand this game... | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On August 03 2016 05:52 OceanLab wrote: Just got back into the game, got myself to around 680 ilvl.... impossible to get into a normal HFC... the requirements are insane. Same thing for mythic dungeons... I don't understand this game... I complained about it many times aswell. What you see are people looking to get boosted in HFC and high gear people looking for quick 10 minute runs in Mythic. Legion pre-event invasions will begin next week (9/10 august) and I believe they give 700 ilvl gear. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Just got back into the game, got myself to around 680 ilvl.... impossible to get into a normal HFC... the requirements are insane. Same thing for mythic dungeons... I don't understand this game... Vast majority of people who have been playing the game will have much better gear by default - mythic raiders around i740, normal/lfr raiders around 700 or so. Many people have 5 characters at these ilvls, even. 5-mans are tuned to be pretty easy, you can make your own group and people will join it - just expect it to take a little while to clear with entry level gear and no rings. Some people used to do a 5-10 minute clear of these on a weekly basis because blizzard put some extremely low % dropchance gear (like 1%) that's better than even mythic raid gear which incentivizes people to clear them every week forever. When a raid geared guy with ring can do 5x more damage than a fresh i650+ char even if that person is decently skilled, they're going to be prioritized for joining groups. Poor scaling has killed every raid previous to HFC which is unfortunate (especially considering it was only one tier) On another note, while the general gear levels/requirements of people running HFC normal and heroic can be quite a bit higher than expected.. the general competence of raiders is low enough to offset this. There are so many hopeless overgeared people that can't beat an i650 designed normal mode boss even with 680 stuff. If you do know your stuff then you can likely convince somebody of that or make your own group, so good luck with that! Joining a guild pre-legion would also be a great idea. People have also just been running HFC forever. Forever. I've cleared HFC start to finish more than 50 times and i was just unsubbed for half a year. | ||
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
And I can't even blame the raid leaders, if I had the choice between a i700 player and me, I'd go for the high gear player. The "look for raid tool" (not LFR, wont even talk about that) is just really detrimental to players in my situation. Finding a guild is an option I suppose, though I'm not sure how that would go, considering I've been away for so long. I'll consider it though. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
 So, I really, really love beastmastery eventhough apparently everybody else hates the specs new playstyle, but for some reason I find it appealing. I'm just scared that the damage is going to suck, because right now it looks like the damage is pretty mediocre. Obviously the balancing is not done yet, but I'm basically scared of choosing the "wrong" artifact and then being stuck with an underleveled artifact when I have to switch to Marksmanship or something. As far as I understand, there is a finite amount of artifact power to be obtained and once you put it into one artifact you can't get it out again or something? I don't want to level up my Beastmastery artifact, then switch to Marksmanship and end up with 2 mediocre artifacts. How does the entire thing work? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
so like.. upgrading a weapon from level 22 to 23 might take as much artifact power as level 1-20. There's acceleration stuff tied to the character which affects weapons of all specs. I'd honestly be more worried about the stats and stat priority differences. | ||
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On August 03 2016 08:26 KadaverBB wrote: I need some advice/thoughts/explanations. I know this information is probably out there somewhere, but TL is usually better at explaining things So, I really, really love beastmastery eventhough apparently everybody else hates the specs new playstyle, but for some reason I find it appealing. I'm just scared that the damage is going to suck, because right now it looks like the damage is pretty mediocre. Obviously the balancing is not done yet, but I'm basically scared of choosing the "wrong" artifact and then being stuck with an underleveled artifact when I have to switch to Marksmanship or something. As far as I understand, there is a finite amount of artifact power to be obtained and once you put it into one artifact you can't get it out again or something? I don't want to level up my Beastmastery artifact, then switch to Marksmanship and end up with 2 mediocre artifacts. How does the entire thing work? There is an infinite amount of Artifact Power (AP) so you don't have to worry about that. Once you spend AP on an artifact you cant take it out. so if you switch spec it is 'wasted' in that sense. The cost of a trait also increases exponentially. going from 13-14 costs more then 1-13. You research Artifact Knowledge (think work order in garrison) that increases your AP gained. The increasing AP gains combined with the cost ramp means that it is quick to catch up with an artifact but the reality is that you will be behind until you cap out an artifact, which will take months. As for what to do. It depends on a ton of factors. Your guild, the level of progress your aiming at, how much you hate the other spec ect. Cant help you there I'm afraid. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On August 03 2016 09:10 deth2munkies wrote: My problem is that the spec I enjoy playing is not the spec I can raid with, so I have to choose whether to gimp my raiding viability or gimp my enjoyment and I should never have to do that. I don't like it either. They make it easier then ever to switch specs and then limit it hard with the artifact  | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
On August 03 2016 08:46 KadaverBB wrote: I mean, I can accumulate gear for a secondary spec like normal. That's how WoW has always been. I am just worried about being stuck with a mediocre weapon for forever basically, and it seems like a pretty big decision to make at lvl 100 at the beginning of questing. SCARY! i will only speak of tuning right now as of this date. you can play whatever you want. depending on your guild and level of commitment that you ve to put into your char to get a raid spot mm will be the better choice but that does not mean bm will be bad either. ive tested every mythic raid boss in alpha/beta. there are some that make u wanna puke as bm and mechanically mm will have it easier to deal with mechanics. bm is just piss easy to play so that might be a plus. personally i think bm/mm both are specs designed by people who should be fired but thats me. hunter is in such a poor state | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
They went for complete ground-up reworks and ended up with something that was objectively worse rather than making improvements to what they already had.. i've never been so confused over specs and what to play in the history of the game | ||
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Duka08
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