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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Ah then not so bad, 3 weeks | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
On April 19 2016 06:12 IntoTheEmo wrote: This is a terrible mindset. Way to let Blizzard walk all over your wallet. Criticism is always good. Or do you want Legion to be WoD 2.0? well I did voted with my wallet by cancelling my sub when there was a content drought and re-sub when the new expansion dropped. Like I said, Blizzard isn't forcing you to sub for life. Don't like the way the game is headed? Unsub. Easy as that. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
While Legion by itself won't bring me back, the only thing that can do that is time. I will be following its story though. Who knows? I just might end up coming back when the expansion after Legion is out or somewhere further down the line so that I have alot of content to play through  | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On April 19 2016 13:11 Disengaged wrote: After playing WoW since the Vanilla beta I've been unsubbed for close to a year. It wasn't because I hated WoD or hated the direction that Blizzard is taking, it is simply because I finally managed to burn myself out. While Legion is looking pretty damn good, its not enough to reignite my urge/want to play. While Legion by itself won't bring me back, the only thing that can do that is time. I will be following its story though. Who knows? I just might end up coming back when the expansion after Legion is out or somewhere further down the line so that I have alot of content to play through I'm curious as to what about legion you like? I played since Beta as well (skipping MoP) and every feature feels like a step in the WRONG direction, which I thought was actually impossible after what they did with MoP/WoD. They didn't fix any of the issues that made WoW worse with each expansion ( i.e. having things to do outside of raiding, community aspect). Removing more skills to make the game even less complex and classes even less unique? terrible random world legendarys that make owning a legendary even less rewarding? terrible Removing weapon drops to make raiding even less rewarding and finishing contet even faster? terrible RNG based damage skills? Who THE FUCK came up with that? To think that NOONE in this developement team came up and said: "you know guys that might not be such a great idea balance wise" to me just confirms how incompetent this dev team really is. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Other than that, they finally "fixed" warrior dps wise in terms of Arms and Fury have a direction each and Prot also has a new oh shit button. But i have also been unsubbed for about 8 months now, didn't even step foot in hellfire citadel because it looked completely wrong for Draenor expansion. I hope at blizzcon this year on the WoW stage in the Q and A someone please asks the question about why they again failed to deliver "shorter expansions" in time. Give me LK expansion i don't care for shorter expansions aslong as content comes out like it did in that expansion. Started with Naxramas Eye of Eternity and Archavon which was great, then added Ulduar, then Trial of the Crusador and a whole bunch of dailies and stuff to do. Onyxia Lair added aka revamped. So in the first year of that expansion we had Nax/Ulduar/Onxyia/ToC plus 3 raids of 1 boss to do on a weekly task easily, which i count to as a total of; 19 Bosses in Nax 3 Weekly Bosses (EoE/Archavon/Obsidium Sanctum) 14 Ulduar 5 Trial of the Crusader 1 Onyxia Herself Total - 42 Bosses in 12 months. Then just after a year of release, LK raid drops, including new heroic dungeons (4), the quarters in LK raid added in every 2 weeks, until the final wing opened February 2nd 2010. May 3rd the Cata alpha begins. That is perfect, then whilst beta is going on they throw Ruby Sanctum at us, yes a 1 boss dragon which was pretty easy haha but still was something to keep you engaged. June 30th 2010 release that was. Then Cata drops December 10th 2010. November 2008 LK drops December 2010 Cata drops Please give me this again  Morning rant hype xd Quick poll added to this; | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On April 19 2016 16:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: I'm curious as to what about legion you like? I played since Beta as well (skipping MoP) and every feature feels like a step in the WRONG direction, which I thought was actually impossible after what they did with MoP/WoD. They didn't fix any of the issues that made WoW worse with each expansion ( i.e. having things to do outside of raiding, community aspect). Removing more skills to make the game even less complex and classes even less unique? terrible random world legendarys that make owning a legendary even less rewarding? terrible Removing weapon drops to make raiding even less rewarding and finishing contet even faster? terrible RNG based damage skills? Who THE FUCK came up with that? To think that NOONE in this developement team came up and said: "you know guys that might not be such a great idea balance wise" to me just confirms how incompetent this dev team really is. Well, like I said, I didn't unsub because I was unhappy with the direction they were going and their choices but just simply being burned out. I had my fun with WoD but was near the "disappointment" level when I unsubbed most likely due to being burned out. I loved WoD in terms of its questing and its dungeons/raids. I enjoyed the whole look and feel of WoD plus the music is awesome. Didn't mind the removal of some skills in WoD. For Legion, some of the things I like about it is again, the overall look and feel of it. The zones and their respective storylines interest me and also the overall storyline. The dungeons and raids are looking to be pretty good and I've watched alot of Fatboss videos and some of the dungeon fights and raid fights simply made me go "Wow", no pun intended. Demon Hunters seem to be pretty unique in how they play but I don't much care for the double jumping as its nothing new to me. The whole "World quests" sounds pretty good because it sounds as if your going to have stuff to do at endgame when your not raiding. Things like doing quests to help with the efficiency of your professions where it reduces the required mats to make stuff. Also like the idea of Class Halls and each one being unique and different for each class. While I don't agree with the whole "Artifacts" idea, it doesn't bother me to the point to where it makes me hate Blizzard and hate the game. I haven't agreed with quite a few things over the long years I've played but that hasn't stopped me from playing and enjoying the game. The whole removal of more abilities is something that doesn't bother me at all. While it was fun having a shit ton of abilities in Vanilla and the later expansions that just kept adding more and more it got to the point to where it was simply too much. Which is why I wasn't angry or lost sleep when they removed some abilities in WoD. I still wouldn't even if I come back during Legion after they've removed more. The whole RNG aspect of things I don't care about. Theres alot of things I either don't care about or have stopped caring about because I've done my time and have experienced what the game really had to offer. I'll stop right there for now because this post is already long enough but I'll gladly continue the conversation and explain my view and mindset of things because I suspect its different then most. As it usually is. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
Should I be optimistic or is Blizzard gonna just gonna strong arm retail WoW as the only viable option? | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On April 19 2016 18:01 Emnjay808 wrote: What are the logistics of a legit Vanilla WoW server happening? Ive recently been on a binge on old school blizzard games and it would be amazing if I could do the same for Vanilla as well. Should I be optimistic or is Blizzard gonna just gonna strong arm retail WoW as the only viable option? The chances of Blizzard doing a legit Vanilla WoW server is basically . . . none. While I loved my time in Vanilla, it is not as good as people seem to claim it to be. The experience was fun and enjoyable during its time but it is not something I would want again. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
On April 19 2016 18:01 Emnjay808 wrote: What are the logistics of a legit Vanilla WoW server happening? Ive recently been on a binge on old school blizzard games and it would be amazing if I could do the same for Vanilla as well. Should I be optimistic or is Blizzard gonna just gonna strong arm retail WoW as the only viable option? "You think you do, but you don't" is blizzard stance on this as far we know. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On April 19 2016 18:01 Emnjay808 wrote: What are the logistics of a legit Vanilla WoW server happening? Ive recently been on a binge on old school blizzard games and it would be amazing if I could do the same for Vanilla as well. Should I be optimistic or is Blizzard gonna just gonna strong arm retail WoW as the only viable option? come on... we just had this discussion 2 pages ago. Go read it, esp nony's posts, and if you feel you have something new to add sure go for it but stop senselessly beating a dead horse. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10967 Posts
On April 19 2016 18:14 Disengaged wrote: The chances of Blizzard doing a legit Vanilla WoW server is basically . . . none. While I loved my time in Vanilla, it is not as good as people seem to claim it to be. The experience was fun and enjoyable during its time but it is not something I would want again. I just recently leveled on some Vanilla Server, which iirc had 3 x XP gain and basically worked perfectly fine. Stratholme, Diremaul West/North and Scholomance are to this day the best 5 man instances WoW has ever seen. It was REALLY enjoyable. I had way more fun, even while leveling, than when doing the same in Wod (had a Booster so i could just tell myself that Mop never happened). Later I also tried to get a twink thru Mop - iirc i didn't even finnish the first Zone. Its just baffling how Blizzard managed to make this game worse with every addon. Btw: I wasn't burned out or anything (I totally skipped MOP), Wod was just really bad. I did enjoy Cata for quite some time (until they failed to release new content for an eternity while some 10 man heroic bosses were just stupid hard if not downright broken. Btw2: TBC was good... But towards its end they began to bring in the whole crap that made WoW worse... I skipped Wotlk but leveled 3 chars "thru" it and at least the leveling Content and Zonedesign was cool (but too easy). Yes, there were issues with Old WoW (Classic/TBC), like the prerequisites for later raids, but these wouldn't be exactly hard to fix. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
I already went on my diablo2 and wc3 binge. I need this to complete my nostalgia achievement. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
Requisites for raids are content. On April 19 2016 18:42 Gorsameth wrote: come on... we just had this discussion 2 pages ago. Go read it, esp nony's posts, and if you feel you have something new to add sure go for it but stop senselessly beating a dead horse. Different thread. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On April 19 2016 20:43 Godwrath wrote: Yep, just go yarrr like most people including me Requisites for raids are content. Different thread. Woops you are right, my bad >< Go read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/416299-wow-vanilla-brainstorm?page=25#494 | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On April 19 2016 12:48 ref4 wrote: well I did voted with my wallet by cancelling my sub when there was a content drought and re-sub when the new expansion dropped. Like I said, Blizzard isn't forcing you to sub for life. Don't like the way the game is headed? Unsub. Easy as that. Consider the complaints equivalent to exit-interviews. People want Blizzard to know why they're unsubbing instead of leaving it up to Blizzard to simply guess. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
On April 19 2016 22:36 Seuss wrote: Consider the complaints equivalent to exit-interviews. People want Blizzard to know why they're unsubbing instead of leaving it up to Blizzard to simply guess. Blizzard also actively asks for this information. They give you a questionaire on the subscription cancel page, but posts allow for more info Yeah like with LK expansion they filled the last raid they did with new dungeons that is all you need on top of a new raid to keep people feeling new. Rather we had 3 year waits for expansions if we had 2 new raids every year. I got a friend into the game at early LK and i was terrible at the game then. I was one of probably millions of players pugging and playing ICC in low end to midrange guilds. I hadn't cleared TOTC HC until after 3.3 and they made it substantially easier, but still relevant (dps did not triple between tier 9 and tier 10) I hadn't cleared most of icecrown citadel even once until halfway through the patch cycle (when ruby sanctum got released). Not just because of my ineptitude, but because of the games design. It was a slow progression of killing more bosses on average over weeks, some locked wings etc. World content was better, old raids & gear scaling was a lot better which made running them again and playing alts more fun compared to today. They added three 5-mans in 3.3, two of which were my favourite in the whole game at the time and remain top 5's to this day. Content drought before and after WOD is the 2 longest droughts in the history of the game, a lot bigger than before and after WOTLK - an expansion that had twice as many raid tiers as WOD and was as good or better in nearly every other important metric, IMO. | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
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