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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 05:43:43
December 08 2015 05:38 GMT
#621
At this point you can 4 heal archimonde


It's been done plenty of times with 1-4 healers

725 to 740 won't double your damage but can make significant difference (i was simming 88k when i killed socrethar, it's approaching 110k now after gear and +10 ilvl upgrades; about 22% higher)

Even if it doesn't matter to you, it matters to a lot of people. General class balance and exploits is something that i'd say the majority of the game cares about, even. For the average player it has to be a much bigger deal than a top 1%er or top 10%er for them to really care, but they care if there's significant gaps.

Its just really funny when people fail to accept the game as it is and choose to complain instead of adapting


So who is doing that? Sounds like you are projecting issues with other people onto me. I'l happily speak loudly about any issues that i see but if you think that i'm not playing 15 hours a week focusing on being one of the best players in guild, optimizing strategies etc then you're wrong
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
December 08 2015 06:12 GMT
#622
I'm not sure if its quite double but we can kill archimonde in 6 minutes now whereas our first kill took us 11. Thats pretty close i'd say. We have ring upgrades now too. Not really projecting anything on to you but if you want blizzard to take action over something so petty you are clearly salty lmao. (maybe upset about not being able to beat ur mates idk)
High Risk Low Reward
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 07:10:51
December 08 2015 06:20 GMT
#623
What is petty? I consider exploits like that to be a pretty big deal; plenty of games out there would temp ban for blatant abuse of such things. I just expect it to be patched out ASAP like they did every other time something similar happened recently.

It doesn't take salt to want a reasonably balanced and exploit-free environment; i have been very outspoken against the legendary ring even though i'm playing what is likely the best spec out of 30+ in the game for it.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 08 2015 07:59 GMT
#624
Mythic archi in 4:24 solo healed by a mist weaver:



I know this is a farm kill for them, but dps has come a huge way in that they avoid a decent amount of mechanics simply because their dps overpowers it so much.

I don't know what this exploit entails, but hopefully it gets patched out. I've seen mages at all ends of the spectrums, from some at 732 pulling 110k dps to others at 725 only pulling 65k dps. I dont know much about them but exploits should be taken care of to be prevented.

FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 03:16:51
December 08 2015 08:10 GMT
#625
i needa start doing research on mythic ARCH but thers no simple text guides i hate watching fuckin 25 minute videoes
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 09:00:05
December 08 2015 08:49 GMT
#626
I don't know what this exploit entails, but hopefully it gets patched out. I've seen mages at all ends of the spectrums, from some at 732 pulling 110k dps to others at 725 only pulling 65k dps. I dont know much about them but exploits should be taken care of to be prevented.


It's just a trick to start fight with a third trinket up. A mage on my server used it to exceed 900k DPS for 15 seconds single target https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AKbcfBv2zaQCGg83#fight=4&type=damage-done&start=973280&end=989046&target=90

That particular guild has at least four arcane mages exploiting it as well.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 09:00:11
December 08 2015 08:55 GMT
#627
ur dk has like perfect gear dam rofl he hitting that breath gym FUCKIN 5 SOCKET SLMAO lucky bastard
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 08 2015 16:31 GMT
#628
On December 08 2015 17:49 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't know what this exploit entails, but hopefully it gets patched out. I've seen mages at all ends of the spectrums, from some at 732 pulling 110k dps to others at 725 only pulling 65k dps. I dont know much about them but exploits should be taken care of to be prevented.


It's just a trick to start fight with a third trinket up. A mage on my server used it to exceed 900k DPS for 15 seconds single target https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AKbcfBv2zaQCGg83#fight=4&type=damage-done&start=973280&end=989046&target=90

That particular guild has at least four arcane mages exploiting it as well.



Trick for like a on use trinket being up?

My guess is that they use the on use trinket right before pull then swap in another trinket so they keep the little 15-20 second on use buff, but then get the static trinket too right?

Seems like a simple fix for blizz to make, but in the long term I think it does little for fixing why you have classes bursting for that much regardless. Even without this third trinket I can't see that mage being under 600-700k burst =/. Still seems way high for first expansion after stat squish.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 16:57:39
December 08 2015 16:55 GMT
#629
I agree, that's why i said balance patch too. Not only can they burst like that but it's extremely RNG because of the spec and trinkets - the same opener can give 650k or 300k DPS depending on luck and often does so. All around pretty shit for mages and everyone else at the same time.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 08 2015 17:55 GMT
#630
it's okay boys we have over a million HP as fresh 110s

600k burst is nothing
rip
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 17:58:21
December 08 2015 17:57 GMT
#631
On December 09 2015 01:55 Cyro wrote:
I agree, that's why i said balance patch too. Not only can they burst like that but it's extremely RNG because of the spec and trinkets - the same opener can give 650k or 300k DPS depending on luck and often does so. All around pretty shit for mages and everyone else at the same time.


You want RNG, play Affliction lock. I even have the tier bonus that gives me a higher Nightfall proc chance, but more than half the time I can't keep Haunt up the entire fight.

Clarification: The Haunt Debuff, not the Soulburn: Haunt buff, that's 100% uptime.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
December 08 2015 17:59 GMT
#632
Arcane's variance is way way higher on ST than any other spec including affliction. Just look at the error bars on simcraft (not that indicative, i know, but eh), it's absolutely insane.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 19:35:49
December 08 2015 19:28 GMT
#633
Arcane on simcraft fight profile does 163k +-46k and affli does 143k +-28k

That's a long fight (5min), the variance is much higher on shorter fight lengths that most of HFC is getting down to now
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 08 2015 19:47 GMT
#634
Hmm. These PvP talents are making me a bit itchy to do some adrenalin pumping again...
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 08 2015 22:04 GMT
#635
cyro do u play hunter or is it ur gm that plays hunter i forgot from that gorefiend video
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
December 09 2015 00:40 GMT
#636
We both play hunt
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 09 2015 09:13 GMT
#637
On December 09 2015 02:55 TomatoBisque wrote:
it's okay boys we have over a million HP as fresh 110s

600k burst is nothing

Oh god haha. Glad im playing tank next expansion haha
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 09 2015 23:44 GMT
#638
On December 09 2015 02:55 TomatoBisque wrote:
it's okay boys we have over a million HP as fresh 110s

600k burst is nothing


seriously?

i miss pre-squish numbers
ffxiv enjoyer
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
December 10 2015 00:15 GMT
#639
Almost killed mannoroth (5%)

20 item levels more than gorefiend and we still took 30% more wipes already
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 12 2015 23:03 GMT
#640
On December 10 2015 08:44 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 02:55 TomatoBisque wrote:
it's okay boys we have over a million HP as fresh 110s

600k burst is nothing


seriously?

i miss pre-squish numbers

yeah watch some videos of people doing Black Rook Hold (where you're set to level 110)

Feel like health/damage numbers could have been 10% what they are now and things would have been okay and it would've delayed the next squish an extra expansion or two
rip
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