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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 22 2015 00:58 GMT
#421
which spell is it
there goes my raid spot grey emoji face
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 06:55:27
November 22 2015 06:12 GMT
#422
timereaver drop chance is low lol

not seen one in 1400 kills, in contact with some people farming it who report the same or more. A run of 1400 with a 1% drop chance gives you a 99.9999% chance of a drop
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
November 22 2015 13:01 GMT
#423
On November 22 2015 04:05 TomatoBisque wrote:
Vengeance Demon Hunters get mass grip huh

But there is bluepost about how they don't wanna give other classes the unique ability of DKs.
as useful as teasalt
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 22 2015 13:09 GMT
#424
On November 22 2015 22:01 Ryndika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2015 04:05 TomatoBisque wrote:
Vengeance Demon Hunters get mass grip huh

But there is bluepost about how they don't wanna give other classes the unique ability of DKs.

Just like how in BC they wanted each class to be unique and they believed that each class having their own personal buff was important. Blizzard change their minds more than politicians
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
November 22 2015 14:09 GMT
#425
On November 22 2015 22:09 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2015 22:01 Ryndika wrote:
On November 22 2015 04:05 TomatoBisque wrote:
Vengeance Demon Hunters get mass grip huh

But there is bluepost about how they don't wanna give other classes the unique ability of DKs.

Just like how in BC they wanted each class to be unique and they believed that each class having their own personal buff was important. Blizzard change their minds more than politicians


Yeah, that's weird considering this expansion is supposed to , swat back each class' creep into other class' territory.
I don't mind non-unique buffs, but unique abilities are important.


Did you guys check out the talent calculators for PVE/PVP on MMOC? If they're seriously bringing back windfury totem for PVP shaman, I'm going to have such a conflicted time deciding what I want to main in Legion.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 22 2015 20:56 GMT
#426
Loot will be in a range of item levels, somewhat like what Mythic dungeons offer in Patch 6.2.3. While there is a chance to get items equal to the best ones from Mythic raids, that is not the default expectation.

Is this still how's it planned to be? Sounds like the people I heard about this from were blowing it out of proportion, as if you can gear up with a 5 man group like you could in Tera.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 22 2015 21:07 GMT
#427
they backtracked and said mythic raid is still best gear, mythic dung close second but wont overtake
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
November 22 2015 21:28 GMT
#428
On November 22 2015 09:58 FinestHour wrote:
which spell is it
there goes my raid spot grey emoji face

Sigil of Inquisition
rip
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
November 22 2015 23:19 GMT
#429
On November 23 2015 06:07 FinestHour wrote:
they backtracked and said mythic raid is still best gear, mythic dung close second but wont overtake


They say that right now yet BIS trinkets are from 5mans
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 22 2015 23:29 GMT
#430
On November 23 2015 08:19 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2015 06:07 FinestHour wrote:
they backtracked and said mythic raid is still best gear, mythic dung close second but wont overtake


They say that right now yet BIS trinkets are from 5mans

Think this has kind of been a thing before
there were trinkets in T11(old i know) that were better than the Firelands trinkets by far
i mean Scales of life was shit, and then apparatus was garbage for Ret bc they didnt get crit ever

its not something that is a new thing 5mans maybe yeah, but in general not so much
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 23:37:44
November 22 2015 23:37 GMT
#431
To be fair, a full BRD run wasn't anything farming 5man stuff nowadays
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 23 2015 00:22 GMT
#432
#justchrismetzenthings
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
November 23 2015 01:19 GMT
#433
Verjas, Protectors of the Berserker Kings: The duration of Stagger is increased by 40%.

Wilfred's Hood of Superior Summoning: The cast time of all demon summoning spells is removed, and your demons deal 20% additional damage.

Timeshifters: Standing still for 8 seconds gives you Foresight, allowing you to cast spells while moving for 4 seconds.

How are some of these legendary items allowed to exist? Having to cut people because they didnt get a legendary is a seriously shit experience.
High Risk Low Reward
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 23 2015 01:26 GMT
#434
So the 5man dungeon loot is sort of like the raid loot you could get from garrison missions? Like it's possible that it'll be an upgrade for a progression raider but it also could not be, and you can't farm it. More just an attempt to give progression raiders something useful to do outside of raiding and farming for consumables/repairs. The difference being it's actually not the same loot you get from raid, so it could have better stats for your spec making it a slight upgrade?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 23 2015 01:30 GMT
#435
Currently, to get a mythic raid equivalent item from a mythic dungeon is like quadra RNG stack to even get the ilvl drop high enough, on top of being RNG which stats you get. I wouldn't expect to see more than couple of them even drop before legion arrives while farming all mythic dungeons every week.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 01:37:38
November 23 2015 01:32 GMT
#436
Yeah, something like that.

If the item you want even drops, you have only a ~30% chance for it to be warforged and a 5-10% chance for it to be warforged to the higher item levels, so it's a bit random. That's the main annoying part, someone with 12/13n, 6/13h progress can do the content, get lucky and then have a trinket that's BIS for a 13/13m raider while that raider has no way to get it.

The dungeons in particular are not like challenge modes - they're pretty hard (totally doable without CC) in i650 gear but trivial in i700; mythic raid guilds are around 730-735 now. I have much less complaint about Legion CM high levels giving good gear - they're challenging by design, whereas "mythic" WOD dungeons are not; they're basically heroic +30ilvls.

Currently, to get a mythic raid equivalent item from a mythic dungeon is like quadra RNG stack to even get the ilvl drop high enough, on top of being RNG which stats you get. I wouldn't expect to see more than couple of them even drop before legion arrives while farming all mythic dungeons every week.


That applies for a lot of items but not the ones like weapons and trinkets which have guaranteed stats. For them, it's something like:

Did it drop? yes/no
is it warforged? yes/no
is it super warforged? yes/no
is it super extra warforged? yes/no
is it amazeballs wtf warforged? yes/no

Kihras trink in particular has to be 720-725 to be amazing for a mythic raiding MM hunter but 715 is still usable. -15 ilvls for heroic raiders.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
November 23 2015 01:39 GMT
#437
On November 23 2015 10:19 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Verjas, Protectors of the Berserker Kings: The duration of Stagger is increased by 40%.

Wilfred's Hood of Superior Summoning: The cast time of all demon summoning spells is removed, and your demons deal 20% additional damage.

Timeshifters: Standing still for 8 seconds gives you Foresight, allowing you to cast spells while moving for 4 seconds.

How are some of these legendary items allowed to exist? Having to cut people because they didnt get a legendary is a seriously shit experience.

Good thing then that this is the very first pre beta build and not the final release version.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 23 2015 02:33 GMT
#438
"Your heals apply Eternal Warrior for 8 sec. If a player dies while Eternal Warrior is active, 20% of your remaining mana is consumed but they are returned to full health."

A shadowpriest presses their suicide button in Insanity mode, gets one heal before dying so gets insta ress, spriest dying procs 100% dmg buff to ret paladin. Spriest loses things like food buff and such, hey, keep rotating 2 spriests doing that or something and you got a ret pala doing 100% dmg all time and the spriests going supernova during that suicide button dps boost as well.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
November 23 2015 03:37 GMT
#439
On November 23 2015 10:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2015 10:19 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Verjas, Protectors of the Berserker Kings: The duration of Stagger is increased by 40%.

Wilfred's Hood of Superior Summoning: The cast time of all demon summoning spells is removed, and your demons deal 20% additional damage.

Timeshifters: Standing still for 8 seconds gives you Foresight, allowing you to cast spells while moving for 4 seconds.

How are some of these legendary items allowed to exist? Having to cut people because they didnt get a legendary is a seriously shit experience.

Good thing then that this is the very first pre beta build and not the final release version.


pretty sure the concept itself is super unfair
High Risk Low Reward
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 10:15:49
November 23 2015 04:14 GMT
#440
I'm sure half of the stuff won't make it to late beta, we will see

am surprised to see nothing on mmo champ about timereaver droprates, forums + wowhead + some of the community are kinda upset about it

i am eating lots of popcorn and running anyway meanwhile

NA token prices had a very unusual spike last night (37k to 58k)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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