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On November 24 2015 05:52 Requizen wrote: Anyone gone onto wowhead/mmo champ to fiddle with the talent calculators? I'm liking the Hunter and Druid stuff so far.
http://beta.wowhead.com/guide=3732
I made one for their contest. I like the talents and its hilarious how simplified this rotation is compared to what it is now for burst damage in sub.
If nothing changes (which it will), my sub rotation will literally be 1 button to generate combo points, and 3 different finishers depending on timers left on two of them. Overly simplistic.
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anyone here make it into the alpha?
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On November 24 2015 05:17 daemir wrote: Yea, gear progression is completely out of whack. You start the expansion doing 5man heroics and bursting up to..what 20k? 30k? dps on those bosses. Just did my daily heroic, the warrior "tank" played fury, geared up to the balls and bursted bosses for 180k dps. I get up to 30k as a healer even. With lust on the last boss of the heroic, our party dps for a 5man was almost 350k...
With mythic geared DPS, most classes can do 400k completely single target per person for 15 seconds. Mage, rogue+shaman(spirit eruption lolol), warlock, hunter (very good burst every 2min) and probably more.
Hunter burst isn't the best but it's one of the least RNG dependant as arcane and the two soul capacitor classes are pretty shit for RNG.
Yeah it is quite extreme another reason why the heroic content becomes stale fast. We need a bridge which i thought was good with the original badge system. Grind heroics still 6 months into an expansion to get the latest epics from the vendor. But tier gear is only from the raiding scene etc.
There would be no problem with challenging 5mans giving t17 any more; people coming into Hellfire with no tier of any sort and no legendary ring do pitiful DPS. I have a few friends with alts who are like i680 and they do so little damage - literally 20-40% of their mains mainly because of missing ring+tier. Very skilled players who just don't have the tools to do damage.
Even t17 is pretty good for a lot of classes. If you have something like a MM hunter with no tier and no legendary ring at all, it's like a fish out of water flopping around and hoping that the gods of RNG allow you to raid properly next week.
I really hate gear scaling as a general rule (i like doing 20-30% more damage after a tier; we did 35k in highmaul and >100k in HFC..) but if it's there, it should really be fixed up and smoother. The 5-mans drop a lot of chest, head, shoulder, legs, hands etc that are quite useless as they interfere with getting tier sets, rather than helping you with them
On November 24 2015 11:36 atrox_ wrote: anyone here make it into the alpha?
We can only sign up for beta as far as i know
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I like the new health bars above the enemies. Make it way nicer to look at it and basically a built in version of Tidy Plates. Im glad for this change! Demon Hunter starter zone looks fun and something nice to do to get to level 100.
However now we have to wait for the next few days until they show us more xD
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[Hotfix in testing] Valiona's Devouring Flames should no longer be dealing significantly more damage than intended.
They can't resist nerfs even after 5 years lol
it doesn't hit much harder than a bunch of other mechanics that will kill you in a few seconds in those timewalkers
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Lots of spoilers out there, some pretty interesting changes coming to Warcraft. Generally I don't spoil myself, but I've been so in and out of WoW that it doesn't phase me as much to read it before I experience it.
And those artifact weapons. Hot dang. Leveling a Warlock seems to be a go just based on the artifact models, damn. Also the "crossbow" version of the BM and MM Hunter weapons are both really cool imo.
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On November 25 2015 05:19 Requizen wrote:Lots of spoilers out there, some pretty interesting changes coming to Warcraft. Generally I don't spoil myself, but I've been so in and out of WoW that it doesn't phase me as much to read it before I experience it. And those artifact weapons. Hot dang. Leveling a Warlock seems to be a go just based on the artifact models, damn. Also the "crossbow" version of the BM and MM Hunter weapons are both really cool imo.
All I can think of is: Who the * is the perverse person who adds hooks to almost every bloody sword they design.
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Out of all the Artifact weapons I've seen, Protections Warriors got screwed over HARD.
Being a Prot warrior main since Vanilla beta I am rather annoyed. Theres literally only one Artifact that is even worth using as in not being transmogged over and thats the "Deathwing" scale shield type. All the other shields are crap and the swords. . . good god the swords are SOOO bland and no effort put into them whatsoever.
I look at the Prot paladin Artifacts and I see the shields I'm like "I wanna use that one! Oh nevermind, I want this one!! Orr that one! OMG SO MANY COOL OPTIONS!" and with Warrior shields its like "Gimme this one cuz all the others are crap" and their swords are also better then the Warriors but not by much.
I envy the other classes and specs that have these amazing cool Artifact weapons with cool animations.
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prot pally won artifacts, hunter ones are kinda shit but some good stuff in there
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On November 25 2015 05:56 Disengaged wrote: Out of all the Artifact weapons I've seen, Protections Warriors got screwed over HARD.
Being a Prot warrior main since Vanilla beta I am rather annoyed. Theres literally only one Artifact that is even worth using as in not being transmogged over and thats the "Deathwing" scale shield type. All the other shields are crap and the swords. . . good god the swords are SOOO bland and no effort put into them whatsoever.
I look at the Prot paladin Artifacts and I see the shields I'm like "I wanna use that one! Oh nevermind, I want this one!! Orr that one! OMG SO MANY COOL OPTIONS!" and with Warrior shields its like "Gimme this one cuz all the others are crap" and their swords are also better then the Warriors but not by much.
I envy the other classes and specs that have these amazing cool Artifact weapons with cool animations. Yeah i am going back to my routes of prot tanking which i do every expansion but not normally my main but this time it will. I also think we got fucked over. So many cool shield designs all they have to do is look at all the shields that are being trasnmogged which are normally the same 3. Sunwell shield. ICC shield and another i forget but these are the designs you feel they should have been worked on and we get these TT
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My prot warrior still has the Crest of Lordaeron. Sounds I might be keeping it.
Can you transmog over the artifact weapons?
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On November 25 2015 08:03 Amarok wrote: My prot warrior still has the Crest of Lordaeron. Sounds I might be keeping it.
Can you transmog over the artifact weapons?
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. If you can't then Blizzard is never going to hear the end of it. I've been using the same shield transmog ever since I completed my "new and improved T3" set almost a year ago, which is the Shield of Impenetrable Darkness.
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You can transmog over artifact weapons
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Considering there are different number of models for each spec, I expect some more to come before launch, that the art team aren't finished with.
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Played for 10 years and i still hate unobtainables
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I don't because I obtained them all!! Okay I didn't, but I don't really need anything besides my tier 1 set and those 2 weapons haha. Since they invented transmog my hunter hasn't changed in appearance once I think haha.
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i hate being on the clock to obtain everything that you might want in 5 years, like we have for the CM's right now - if you don't know which class you'll want to play in legion, your only option is to give up the chance at a CM weapon OR farm them individually on every class because the achievement is character bound. Still unconfirmed if account wide transmogs will change that
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On November 25 2015 05:56 Disengaged wrote: Out of all the Artifact weapons I've seen, Protections Warriors got screwed over HARD.
Being a Prot warrior main since Vanilla beta I am rather annoyed. Theres literally only one Artifact that is even worth using as in not being transmogged over and thats the "Deathwing" scale shield type. All the other shields are crap and the swords. . . good god the swords are SOOO bland and no effort put into them whatsoever.
I look at the Prot paladin Artifacts and I see the shields I'm like "I wanna use that one! Oh nevermind, I want this one!! Orr that one! OMG SO MANY COOL OPTIONS!" and with Warrior shields its like "Gimme this one cuz all the others are crap" and their swords are also better then the Warriors but not by much.
I envy the other classes and specs that have these amazing cool Artifact weapons with cool animations. Its funny, I could not care less what an item looks like. I dont even know what the items currently on my character look like. Camera is way too far away anyway.
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