NFL 2015 Season - Page 187

On November 26 2015 03:19 andrewlt wrote:
I'm not following all this stupidity. Is Manziel supposed to be in AA? Was he even drunk or drinking at all during the party? Or is it just a bunch of no life perspective football lifers having a stick up their asses?

On November 26 2015 06:45 GreenHorizons wrote:


I just think it's funny how Josh Gordon is a "World class moron" according to some here but Johnny somehow isn't.

On November 26 2015 07:06 zev318 wrote:


manziel certainly hasnt done this yet:

On June 7, 2013, the NFL announced that Gordon would be suspended for the first two games of the 2013 season due to violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.[19]

On August 27, 2014, Gordon acknowledged that the NFL suspended him for one year for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.[20] On September 19, 2014, his suspension was reduced to 10 games amidst the new NFL drug policy. Gordon was officially reinstated on November 17.[21]

On December 27, 2014, exactly one year removed from being selected into the Pro Bowl, the Browns suspended Gordon from the final game of the 2014 season due to a violation of team rules.[22]

As of January 2015, Gordon faced another year-long suspension due to testing positive for alcohol use.[23] Gordon entered the NFL's substance abuse program after pleading guilty to a driving while impaired charge in September 2014 and was prohibited from consuming alcohol during his time in the program.[24] Gordon was officially suspended for one year on February 3, 2015 and won't be able to return until the start of the 2016 season.[25]

On November 26 2015 07:16 GreenHorizons wrote:


Yeah, that's why I said the reason he's still around is because his drug of choice was alcohol instead of cannabis. Gordon's last suspension was for partying WITH his team. But people didn't say anything like "oh he wasn't that drunk" or any of the excuses they make for Manziel.

And the only reason he got suspended for it was because if you get in trouble for using cannabis you don't get to drink anymore either.

On November 26 2015 09:14 ZasZ. wrote:


I agree that the league policy on cannabis is ridiculous, but people call Gordon a moron because he had plenty of opportunities to play within the rules in order to make his millions and decided to smoke instead. As someone who smokes recreational weed, you bet your ass I would never touch it again if I could make $10 million a year. That's what makes him a moron.

On November 26 2015 09:28 GreenHorizons wrote:


Which is what would make Manziel a moron, many opportunities (remember he had some serious screw ups through his college career too) to straighten up, yet still out partying and drinking post rehab (which I'm starting to suspect wasn't even for alcohol if drinking isn't considered a relapse).

No one was accusing Gordon's performance of suffering from his hobby, whereas Johnny's drinking has put doubt of his commitment to improving his performance front and center.

Johnny didn't even have to stop drinking, he just needed to listen to his team, not go to a club during the season and have videos posted on social media of it. That is much more moronic than NOT smoking weed and going and partying with your teammates after the season is over and not realizing that the league would throw the book at you for something your own teammates didn't tell you (or realize) would be a problem.

I'm fine with people thinking they are both morons, or neither are morons, but thinking Gordon is some special level of stupid but Johnny should be complaining to the NFLPA is just garbage.

On November 26 2015 09:43 giftdgecko wrote:

Johnny isn't being suspended or fined by the NFL though... This is the Browns essentially saying he went back on an agreement they had come to. I get what you are saying and if the NFL had suspended him for this I'd be on board, but the team deciding this is a different level. He didn't do anything illegal/against NFL rules afaik so you can't compare the two imo.

On November 26 2015 09:28 GreenHorizons wrote:


Which is what would make Manziel a moron, many opportunities (remember he had some serious screw ups through his college career too) to straighten up, yet still out partying and drinking post rehab (which I'm starting to suspect wasn't even for alcohol if drinking isn't considered a relapse).

No one was accusing Gordon's performance of suffering from his hobby, whereas Johnny's drinking has put doubt of his commitment to improving his performance front and center.

Johnny didn't even have to stop drinking, he just needed to listen to his team, not go to a club during the season and have videos posted on social media of it. That is much more moronic than NOT smoking weed and going and partying with your teammates after the season is over and not realizing that the league would throw the book at you for something your own teammates didn't tell you (or realize) would be a problem.

I'm fine with people thinking they are both morons, or neither are morons, but thinking Gordon is some special level of stupid but Johnny should be complaining to the NFLPA is just garbage.

On November 26 2015 07:14 cLutZ wrote:
^Yip. Johnny still is getting his checks. Plus, its the Browns, not the NFL who have it out for him. Despite Goodell being suspect as a commissioner, the Browns are on a different level of incompetence. That he is not getting along with that team is practically an endorsement of his judgment.