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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
October 25 2014 17:05 GMT
#16921
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 25 2014 17:06 GMT
#16922
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

And Polt will probably win like 3 WCS NAs in a row.
kiss kiss fall in love
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 25 2014 17:06 GMT
#16923
On October 26 2014 02:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 01:36 Sakat wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:34 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:31 Sakat wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:25 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:23 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:15 Cricketer12 wrote:
[quote]
oh i thought you were german, my mistake ^_^

Common misconception. I thought he was German for the longest time as well.

i see...does this make him more of a robot or less of robot then?

He wants to become Canadian, so less of a robot if I had to guess.

...will he have to learn french to do so? or does he plan on going to Ontario?

I think that you can get by without French in Ontario and out West.

Isn't French only in Quebec?

French is also used out on the East Coast quite a bit as well, but it's a do-or-die thing out there. Montreal is a really English town, so you can technically settle there (but the city layout is a NIGHTMARE and a half).

you should see our cities...
People can live in a city for 20 years and still get lost. And they are not even big. just stupidly made.

Almost all historial cities are dumb.

I find them fascinating at times
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 25 2014 17:07 GMT
#16924
Also Cricketer why am I a robot?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
October 25 2014 17:07 GMT
#16925
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....


Hopefully WCS KR awards more points than other regions. Realistically you have to take into account the unique strength of korean national scene and to award even people who just qualify for code S ro32 large amounts of points.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 25 2014 17:07 GMT
#16926
On October 26 2014 02:06 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:36 Sakat wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:34 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:31 Sakat wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:25 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:23 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 01:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
[quote]
Common misconception. I thought he was German for the longest time as well.

i see...does this make him more of a robot or less of robot then?

He wants to become Canadian, so less of a robot if I had to guess.

...will he have to learn french to do so? or does he plan on going to Ontario?

I think that you can get by without French in Ontario and out West.

Isn't French only in Quebec?

French is also used out on the East Coast quite a bit as well, but it's a do-or-die thing out there. Montreal is a really English town, so you can technically settle there (but the city layout is a NIGHTMARE and a half).

you should see our cities...
People can live in a city for 20 years and still get lost. And they are not even big. just stupidly made.

Almost all historial cities are dumb.

I find them fascinating at times

Yes. The best place to go travel
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
October 25 2014 17:08 GMT
#16927
On October 26 2014 02:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

And Polt will probably win like 3 WCS NAs in a row.

what are semis? Polt v HuK Scarlett v viOLet?
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
October 25 2014 17:08 GMT
#16928
On October 26 2014 02:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

And Polt will probably win like 3 WCS NAs in a row.

what are semis? Polt v HuK Scarlett v viOLet?


Something like that, yeah.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
October 25 2014 17:09 GMT
#16929
On October 26 2014 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....


Hopefully WCS KR awards more points than other regions. Realistically you have to take into account the unique strength of korean national scene and to award even people who just qualify for code S ro32 large amounts of points.

without a doubt..i think some invite seeds should be given as well/proleague points.,... maybe even another league for korea...
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
October 25 2014 17:10 GMT
#16930
On October 26 2014 02:07 GumBa wrote:
Also Cricketer why am I a robot?

inno love too high..super loopy last week
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 25 2014 17:10 GMT
#16931
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

That.

It's more hilarious Jaedong qualified for Blizzcon by sheer EG Moneyz, he did nothing notable this year. Players like Maru, being on the top for the entire year, get shafted.

Region Lock is just another artificial solution to get more foreigners to the field, whilst WCS EU is actually proving foreigners are slowly catching up.

Result; A TON of Korean players will be forced to retire, as 3 seasons a year in which only 32 players get payed by earnings in individual leagues. Popularity drops off, Proleague seizes to exist, ggnore.

ORRRRRRRRRRR

We just enjoy Blizzcon because there's a ton of good names. Sure something will fill the gap Korean players will experience !
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1159 Posts
October 25 2014 17:12 GMT
#16932
On October 26 2014 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....


Hopefully WCS KR awards more points than other regions. Realistically you have to take into account the unique strength of korean national scene and to award even people who just qualify for code S ro32 large amounts of points.

the season finals kinda took care of giving wcs kr more points last year, while technically being a fair treatment of the regions
doesn't really help for people that don't make it far in the gsl though
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
October 25 2014 17:12 GMT
#16933
Honestly killing Korean Starcraft would pretty much kill Starcraft itself. I hope they find a solution to avoid the depletion of the Korean scene...
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
October 25 2014 17:13 GMT
#16934
On October 26 2014 02:10 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

That.

It's more hilarious Jaedong qualified for Blizzcon by sheer EG Moneyz, he did nothing notable this year. Players like Maru, being on the top for the entire year, get shafted.

Region Lock is just another artificial solution to get more foreigners to the field, whilst WCS EU is actually proving foreigners are slowly catching up.

Result; A TON of Korean players will be forced to retire, as 3 seasons a year in which only 32 players get payed by earnings in individual leagues. Popularity drops off, Proleague seizes to exist, ggnore.

ORRRRRRRRRRR

We just enjoy Blizzcon because there's a ton of good names. Sure something will fill the gap Korean players will experience !

blizzcon will be nice...but region lock will wreck esports way to fucking hard...we are going backwards not forewords..
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 25 2014 17:13 GMT
#16935
Korea needs another tournament. There should be GSL and WCS there so it functions kinda like OSL and MSL back in the day. Add in a KESPA cup once a year and wcs points should be good in korea. With PL and smaller cups koreans will have plenty to play in then.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
October 25 2014 17:13 GMT
#16936
On October 26 2014 02:12 dangthatsright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....


Hopefully WCS KR awards more points than other regions. Realistically you have to take into account the unique strength of korean national scene and to award even people who just qualify for code S ro32 large amounts of points.

the season finals kinda took care of giving wcs kr more points last year, while technically being a fair treatment of the regions
doesn't really help for people that don't make it far in the gsl though

the season finals were some of the best tournaments of the year...wtf were they removed this year???
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 25 2014 17:14 GMT
#16937
On October 26 2014 02:10 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

That.

It's more hilarious Jaedong qualified for Blizzcon by sheer EG Moneyz, he did nothing notable this year. Players like Maru, being on the top for the entire year, get shafted.

Region Lock is just another artificial solution to get more foreigners to the field, whilst WCS EU is actually proving foreigners are slowly catching up.

Result; A TON of Korean players will be forced to retire, as 3 seasons a year in which only 32 players get payed by earnings in individual leagues. Popularity drops off, Proleague seizes to exist, ggnore.

ORRRRRRRRRRR

We just enjoy Blizzcon because there's a ton of good names. Sure something will fill the gap Korean players will experience !


I wonder... if a lot of the top Koreans go back home, maybe they could start Proleague teams and make PL bigger. Just a thought, although I'm sure that it's not the first time someone suggested it.
kiss kiss fall in love
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
October 25 2014 17:15 GMT
#16938
On October 26 2014 02:12 dangthatsright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....


Hopefully WCS KR awards more points than other regions. Realistically you have to take into account the unique strength of korean national scene and to award even people who just qualify for code S ro32 large amounts of points.

the season finals kinda took care of giving wcs kr more points last year, while technically being a fair treatment of the regions
doesn't really help for people that don't make it far in the gsl though


I actually loved those season finals. The problem with them was that they put too much emphasis on WCS performances (you perform well in WCS -> you get a free shot at gaining even more points in finals) but they were pretty awesome tournaments to watch ! I especially remember Bomber's win in season 2 and Dear qualifying against the odds for Blizzcon. I was really surprised to see they weren't using this format this year !
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 25 2014 17:15 GMT
#16939
On October 26 2014 02:13 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:12 dangthatsright wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....


Hopefully WCS KR awards more points than other regions. Realistically you have to take into account the unique strength of korean national scene and to award even people who just qualify for code S ro32 large amounts of points.

the season finals kinda took care of giving wcs kr more points last year, while technically being a fair treatment of the regions
doesn't really help for people that don't make it far in the gsl though

the season finals were some of the best tournaments of the year...wtf were they removed this year???

Apparantly, they took the hype and epicness off region winners (NA/EU/KR) by putting them into the arena with some other players again, of whom the winners were usually other players.
The regional champion should not be dethroned so fast, I suppose.

And quite expensive I suppose.

I loved the Season finals as well....
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 25 2014 17:16 GMT
#16940
On October 26 2014 02:14 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 02:10 SC2Toastie wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 26 2014 02:00 lopido wrote:
a Blizzcon without Flash, Rain and Soulkey will not be a good Blizzcon ;(

Sure it will. Flash hasn't had the best 2014, Rain's playing kinda off, and Soulkey's basically retired.

I feel like the quality of the games with them instead of some of the other players would just drop dramatically.

i wanted sOs and DRG D:

$O$ would've been cool to see and same with DRG, but it didn't happen. I mean... when you're only letting the top 16 players of a year play in Blizzcon, you're gonna lose out on some fantastic players.

its about to get fucking worse with region lock...in my opinion this will kill korean starcraft....

That.

It's more hilarious Jaedong qualified for Blizzcon by sheer EG Moneyz, he did nothing notable this year. Players like Maru, being on the top for the entire year, get shafted.

Region Lock is just another artificial solution to get more foreigners to the field, whilst WCS EU is actually proving foreigners are slowly catching up.

Result; A TON of Korean players will be forced to retire, as 3 seasons a year in which only 32 players get payed by earnings in individual leagues. Popularity drops off, Proleague seizes to exist, ggnore.

ORRRRRRRRRRR

We just enjoy Blizzcon because there's a ton of good names. Sure something will fill the gap Korean players will experience !


I wonder... if a lot of the top Koreans go back home, maybe they could start Proleague teams and make PL bigger. Just a thought, although I'm sure that it's not the first time someone suggested it.

Money, man, who's gonna pay for that?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
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