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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 20 2014 07:56 GMT
#11421
On October 20 2014 16:50 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 16:14 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 16:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Am I the only one condused with the double preview articles ? Like we have the "road to Blizzcon" articles and the TL Strat preview. It feels kinda redundant to have 2 articles on the same player at the same time. Except for Classic, 'cause he didn't get his TL Strat preview (or did I miss it ?)...



No, it's kinda silly. It would have been better to just have everything in a single article

No I find it quite good to have them separated, although the best thing would have been to have them separated but still being in the same article (I mean like they do with the two-players battle reports or like they did with the HerO/TaeJa hype article for... BlizzCon last year? Or was it DH Winter?). And yes you probably missed Classic's TL Strat preview since it was not linked in the Road To BlizzCon article.



+1
That's actually what I thought
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
October 20 2014 08:00 GMT
#11422
I like the two different approaches, but wouldn't mind the strategy articles being displayed a bit more prominently in the preview article.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
October 20 2014 08:03 GMT
#11423
Hyped for WECG in an hour
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 20 2014 08:04 GMT
#11424
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 08:09:39
October 20 2014 08:07 GMT
#11425
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals. And semi-finals. either way, fun bit of research
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 08:09:48
October 20 2014 08:09 GMT
#11426
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 20 2014 08:10 GMT
#11427
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 20 2014 08:12 GMT
#11428
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 20 2014 08:14 GMT
#11429
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:


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LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
October 20 2014 08:16 GMT
#11430
On October 20 2014 16:56 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 16:50 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 16:14 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 16:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Am I the only one condused with the double preview articles ? Like we have the "road to Blizzcon" articles and the TL Strat preview. It feels kinda redundant to have 2 articles on the same player at the same time. Except for Classic, 'cause he didn't get his TL Strat preview (or did I miss it ?)...



No, it's kinda silly. It would have been better to just have everything in a single article

No I find it quite good to have them separated, although the best thing would have been to have them separated but still being in the same article (I mean like they do with the two-players battle reports or like they did with the HerO/TaeJa hype article for... BlizzCon last year? Or was it DH Winter?). And yes you probably missed Classic's TL Strat preview since it was not linked in the Road To BlizzCon article.



+1
That's actually what I thought


Thanks for the link of the TL Strat preview for Classic, I did miss it !
Also yeah, I don't mind having 2 separate articles per player, one focusing on the story, one on the strat, but IMHO it would have been better to have both articles on the same page, like you guys mention. But hey, I'm still super happy we get to have 2 articles per player, I'm definitely not complaining about having too much content :D
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 20 2014 08:16 GMT
#11431
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:



As far as WCS, PL doesn't count. If we only include Premier events, he had 1 win and 2 runner-ups. For comparison, Bomber had 3 wins and 1 runner-up. That way, Bomber deserves it more (I was only looking at the top side of the bracket)
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 20 2014 08:18 GMT
#11432
On October 20 2014 17:16 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:



As far as WCS, PL doesn't count. If we only include Premier events, he had 1 win and 2 runner-ups. For comparison, Bomber had 3 wins and 1 runner-up. That way, Bomber deserves it more (I was only looking at the top side of the bracket)


He knows PL doesn't count, he's saying that lots of people think PL should count, and if it did, herO would be legitimized more than any other player.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 08:27:52
October 20 2014 08:24 GMT
#11433
On October 20 2014 17:18 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:16 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:



As far as WCS, PL doesn't count. If we only include Premier events, he had 1 win and 2 runner-ups. For comparison, Bomber had 3 wins and 1 runner-up. That way, Bomber deserves it more (I was only looking at the top side of the bracket)


He knows PL doesn't count, he's saying that lots of people think PL should count, and if it did, herO would be legitimized more than any other player.



I don't know about that. I find it difficult to see how you could implement WCS point into PL. Maybe just have more individual tournamnets in Korea. herOs GSL run was pretty bad this year, and I know that PL could be the reason behind this. But, he did really well in the Kespa cup. I think that it would be better for players on Kespa teams to have more tournaments giving out WCS points in Korea, so they can compete. Or more GSL seasons. Three does seem like a pretty small number
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
October 20 2014 08:24 GMT
#11434
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:

He also finished second in the only two Tier 1 events this year, I mean he lost both of them but then again herO has never been in a final that hasn't been pvp.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 20 2014 08:26 GMT
#11435
On October 20 2014 17:24 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:

He also finished second in the only two Tier 1 events this year, I mean he lost both of them but then again herO has never been in a final that hasn't been pvp.


herO is 2-2 in finals.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 20 2014 08:28 GMT
#11436
On October 20 2014 17:24 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:18 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:16 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:



As far as WCS, PL doesn't count. If we only include Premier events, he had 1 win and 2 runner-ups. For comparison, Bomber had 3 wins and 1 runner-up. That way, Bomber deserves it more (I was only looking at the top side of the bracket)


He knows PL doesn't count, he's saying that lots of people think PL should count, and if it did, herO would be legitimized more than any other player.



I don't know about that. I find it difficult to se how you could implement WCS point into PL. Maybe just have more individual tournamnets in Korea. herOs GSL run was pretty bad this year, and I know that PL could be the reason behind this. But, he did really well in the Kespa cup. I think that it would be better for players on Kespa teams to have more tournaments giving out WCS points in Korea, so they can compete. Or more GSL seasons. Three does seem like a pretty small number

I think that's an endless debate tbh. I mean the obvious solution would be more events in Korea, but these events won't come by themselves. And I believe WCS points for next PL has been confirmed already?
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 08:33:23
October 20 2014 08:31 GMT
#11437
On October 20 2014 17:28 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 17:24 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:18 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:16 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:10 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:07 Sakat wrote:
On October 20 2014 17:04 OtherWorld wrote:
I looked back at last year's BlizzCon, and at the seedings in particular, and it made me realize a few things :
-There are the same number of regional representatives in 2013 and 2014 (6 from KR, 5 from AM and 5 from EU), but while last year KR players were in the top half of the rankings (5 of them being in the top8), this year they are clearly towards the bottom half (only one of them being in the top8). EU, Which had no players in the top8 last year, now has 3 ; AM had 3 last year and has 4 this year.
-We had even less Zergs last year than this year (2 compared to 4), I forgot that was the case.
-Since we're talking about race repartition, Terrans went from 8 to 6 and Protoss still has 6 players.
-Surprisingly enough given the disparition of the Season Finals (but I guess Premier Events as well as regional WCS gave more points this year), both (T)Bomber and (Z)HyuN (#1 and 2 seeds) have more points than (Z)Soulkey (#1 Seed) last year. The sum of all players' points is also slightly higher this year (73425, while it was 73125 last year). However, the last seeds - (P)NaNiwa and (Z)Jaedong - have the same amount of points, 3200.
-(P)duckdeok was so close to taking out (T)Maru and going all the way. Dammit (P)duckdeok D:
-(T)INnoVation, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Polt, (P)MC, (T)MMA, (T)Bomber, (T)TaeJa are the only players who went to BlizzCon last year and will this year. Also, (T)Polt and (T)MMA have the same seed as last year (#4 and #9).
-Here's a fun bracket based on last year's results (based on the seeds) :
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)MC < (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San > (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(Z)soO > (T)TaeJa
(Z)HyuN < (T)INnoVation

(T)Bomber < (P)StarDust
(P)herO[jOin] > (T)Polt
(P)San < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (T)INnoVation

(P)StarDust < (P)herO[jOin]
(P)Zest > (Z)soO

(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Zest

Which honestly looks like a pretty cool bracket


Too much P in the finals

Yeah but they're P that deserve it considering the year they had (well except SD maybe, but Zest and herO definitely deserve it)


I would say that Zest deserves the finals. hero... semis, at most.

But he's the best player in PL this year. And everyone complained how PL players had no chance of being represented at Blizzcon D:



As far as WCS, PL doesn't count. If we only include Premier events, he had 1 win and 2 runner-ups. For comparison, Bomber had 3 wins and 1 runner-up. That way, Bomber deserves it more (I was only looking at the top side of the bracket)


He knows PL doesn't count, he's saying that lots of people think PL should count, and if it did, herO would be legitimized more than any other player.



I don't know about that. I find it difficult to se how you could implement WCS point into PL. Maybe just have more individual tournamnets in Korea. herOs GSL run was pretty bad this year, and I know that PL could be the reason behind this. But, he did really well in the Kespa cup. I think that it would be better for players on Kespa teams to have more tournaments giving out WCS points in Korea, so they can compete. Or more GSL seasons. Three does seem like a pretty small number

I think that's an endless debate tbh. I mean the obvious solution would be more events in Korea, but these events won't come by themselves. And I believe WCS points for next PL has been confirmed already?


There was something about that. We'll just have to wait and see how they do it. I prefered the last years system, with the season finals though.

DreamHack Open Seul??
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LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
October 20 2014 08:32 GMT
#11438
Do we have a date for more details about the next season of WCS ? I suppose Blizz's gonna tell us through the "What's next panel" at Blizzcon ?
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 20 2014 08:32 GMT
#11439
On October 20 2014 17:32 LoneYoShi wrote:
Do we have a date for more details about the next season of WCS ? I suppose Blizz's gonna tell us through the "What's next panel" at Blizzcon ?



I hope that's LOTV news to be honest
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 20 2014 08:32 GMT
#11440
Not confirmed. I think it's just being looked into by blizz.
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