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Deadman aka apm70 passed away
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d0n
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digmouse
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Artunit
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
it was like said alot of times (last time i remeber was 2004 him and grubby) so before anything else PLZ source | ||
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eRRePe
Spain25 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
It's like yesterday when he was wrecking WC3L & giving us hilarious interviewsomeone gives me link please | ||
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SoleSteeler
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LuckyFool
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d0n
Germany143 Posts
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LuckyFool
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Whoranzone
Germany330 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
It seems that the cause of death is unknown Rest in Peace Andrey | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Entertaining
Canada793 Posts
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aike
United States1629 Posts
On March 02 2014 14:14 LuckyFool wrote: murdered? What the hell. Also did he ever play SC2 or was he always a war3 player? I never followed War3 much but I have heard of this guy before. If he was murdered in 2009, then no SC2 :\ | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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d0n
Germany143 Posts
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nGBeast
United States914 Posts
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duckk
United States622 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9036 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Long story short there's no proof on the Russian site and a lot of people there are treating this with skepticism, asking the guy to go and ask the mom/parents if he knows where they live (as he says he does). | ||
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Grouch
Canada152 Posts
On March 02 2014 14:25 duckk wrote: Sad to see anyone pass away, but this guy hacked vs me in ladder all of the time. Sad seeing as he was a very skilled player however no respect for hackers. He died, who cares if he hacked. Someone a part of the community and no less another human died. Show some respect. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On March 02 2014 14:25 duckk wrote: Sad to see anyone pass away, but this guy hacked vs me in ladder all of the time. Sad seeing as he was a very skilled player however no respect for hackers. You're disgusting, I'd tell you to be ashamed but you clearly lack that capability. rip man. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On March 02 2014 14:25 duckk wrote: Sad to see anyone pass away, but this guy hacked vs me in ladder all of the time. Sad seeing as he was a very skilled player however no respect for hackers. He arguably did maphack like what, 9 years ago. You are ridiculous man. | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On March 02 2014 14:59 Grouch wrote: He died, who cares if he hacked. Someone a part of the community and no less another human died. Show some respect. Yeah but those are the people that you wish weren't part of the community. Which means that you would probably rather him die than some random person who wasn't even part of the community. And honestly, he did show some respect. If I found out that some guy who hacked against me died, I would probably laugh and call it karma. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
On March 02 2014 15:41 Blargh wrote: Yeah but those are the people that you wish weren't part of the community. Which means that you would probably rather him die than some random person who wasn't even part of the community. And honestly, he did show some respect. If I found out that some guy who hacked against me died, I would probably laugh and call it karma. ROFL, sorry but this reply is just sad. Really? Karma? How childish can you get with that crap? Just pathetic dude. Why are people like you even in this community. A death is a death, and should be respected no matter what. RIP Deadman | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On March 02 2014 14:01 Artunit wrote: omg Deadman[pG]! RIP pretty sure deadman[pG] the old school BW player and this player are not the same person. this deadman/apm70 was a wc3 player, was well-known for being bm and a previous hacker this isnt really sc2 news tho? he was never a sc2 pro? | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On March 02 2014 15:54 fAnTaCy wrote: ROFL, sorry but this reply is just sad. Really? Karma? How childish can you get with that crap? Just pathetic dude. Why are people like you even in this community. A death is a death, and should be respected no matter what. RIP Deadman Okay. I think you're forgetting to mourn over the other 200,000 deaths that happened just today. What's actually pathetic is how people like you act like they care about every single death in the world as if it actually meant something to them, when all they do is sit on their lazy asses looking at forums. Shit, I doubt you've spent more than an hour even thinking about all of the others who have died since you've been born. This guy hasn't even been relevant to the scene in ages, but suddenly, he's worth grieving deeply over. And I don't actually think it's a good thing for people to die, even if they are hackers. I don't think it's a good thing for people to die even if they are murderers. But I'm sure as hell not going to shed a tear when one individual who happened to be good at WC3 for some period of time dies/died. Also, without a clear translated source, we don't actually know if this guy is even dead. We're just going off of the words of some forum user and German/Russian articles. It wouldn't even surprise me if this was just some troll, since his nick is "Deadman"... | ||
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Penguinator
United States837 Posts
On March 02 2014 15:41 Blargh wrote: Yeah but those are the people that you wish weren't part of the community. Which means that you would probably rather him die than some random person who wasn't even part of the community. And honestly, he did show some respect. If I found out that some guy who hacked against me died, I would probably laugh and call it karma. Are you... serious? Karma? Someone hacks, and then they die, and you think that's karma? Do you realize how big the difference in severity is? That's like if someone got caught stealing a pack of gum from the store and then received the death penalty. The punishment far outweighs the crime. To say that someone should die because they hacked in a video game almost 10 years ago is just... I can't even wrap my head around how incredibly fucking stupid you are. | ||
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TheWorldToCome
United States452 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On March 02 2014 16:05 digmouse wrote: So all in all, can anyone give this a confirmation? Hard to get one. I mean, Deadman certainly can't confirm. German source says, that his mother investigated because the russian police didn't give a fuck. She then found a pic of a supposed 35 year old which looked like him, supposedly killed by some gang or something. So she thinks he's dead. Others said in the comments that he had some drug problems back when playing Wc3 already, so maybe he got in trouble through that. | ||
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KingPaddy
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
On March 02 2014 16:34 Blargh wrote: Okay. I think you're forgetting to mourn over the other 200,000 deaths that happened just today. What's actually pathetic is how people like you act like they care about every single death in the world as if it actually meant something to them, when all they do is sit on their lazy asses looking at forums. Shit, I doubt you've spent more than an hour even thinking about all of the others who have died since you've been born. This guy hasn't even been relevant to the scene in ages, but suddenly, he's worth grieving deeply over. And I don't actually think it's a good thing for people to die, even if they are hackers. I don't think it's a good thing for people to die even if they are murderers. But I'm sure as hell not going to shed a tear when one individual who happened to be good at WC3 for some period of time dies/died. Also, without a clear translated source, we don't actually know if this guy is even dead. We're just going off of the words of some forum user and German/Russian articles. It wouldn't even surprise me if this was just some troll, since his nick is "Deadman"... Well if you don't care, then why are you even in here? The people who are posting in here actually DO care, and I don't see anything wrong with that. They have their opinion, you have yours, if you're not gonna show some damn respect, then get out. | ||
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lhr0909
United States562 Posts
On March 02 2014 16:34 Blargh wrote: Okay. I think you're forgetting to mourn over the other 200,000 deaths that happened just today. What's actually pathetic is how people like you act like they care about every single death in the world as if it actually meant something to them, when all they do is sit on their lazy asses looking at forums. Shit, I doubt you've spent more than an hour even thinking about all of the others who have died since you've been born. This guy hasn't even been relevant to the scene in ages, but suddenly, he's worth grieving deeply over. And I don't actually think it's a good thing for people to die, even if they are hackers. I don't think it's a good thing for people to die even if they are murderers. But I'm sure as hell not going to shed a tear when one individual who happened to be good at WC3 for some period of time dies/died. Also, without a clear translated source, we don't actually know if this guy is even dead. We're just going off of the words of some forum user and German/Russian articles. It wouldn't even surprise me if this was just some troll, since his nick is "Deadman"... Wow, you really hated him for hacking you didn't you? | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
rip if hes dead but that hes murdered and police did try to hide it etc, i cant believe sry | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On March 02 2014 15:41 Blargh wrote: Yeah but those are the people that you wish weren't part of the community. Which means that you would probably rather him die than some random person who wasn't even part of the community. And honestly, he did show some respect. If I found out that some guy who hacked against me died, I would probably laugh and call it karma. User was temp banned for this post. The fact Apm70 got responses like this makes makes me wonder how TL would react if CombatEX were suddenly found dead one day, He's certainly more fresh in the forum's minds as a stream cheater and overall prolific troll. It's still a shitty thing, trashing somebody in their obituary thread. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
9:55 for chilling ceremony. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
omg | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 02 2014 16:05 digmouse wrote: So all in all, can anyone give this a confirmation? Sokol, a german wc3 pro with good connections to the russian commuity confirmed it. You can see the letter of the mother here http://www.02.ru/blogposts/post_204 post: tanya (Соболева Татьяна) 20:26 10.11 (Can someone russian summarise this?) Translation of Sokol's summary of the 500 pages goodgame.ru thread: "His body was found on a road, but there was no crime investigation and the files from the morgue were forged. "Fall from a height" was given as cause of death. The man was described to be 1,76 tall and 35 years old, while Deadman was 1,90m and 21 years old. It was only due to the mother seeing the pictures from the crimeside by chance that she found out about it. The precise discription given in the missing person's report was never used by law enforcement even though everything could be seen on the photos. Despite the fact that there were eyewitnesses, who saw a group drop Deadman's body at the location, there was no further investigation. All of the mother's complains were ignored, none of the officers, lawyers or persons involved was punised/prosecuted" So Deadman's death should've been confirmed years ago and he should've been easy to identify since the mother filled a missing person's report. But files were forged and the investigaion was sabotaged/stopped. Deadman was probably involved with the wrong guys and they hid his death. He was known to have drug problems in the past too. But nothing is certain I guess. If this is all true, I'm very sorry for the mother, it must be hell to not know what happened for years and now see none of the responisble people get prosecuted. RIP Deadman. Both Readmore threads: http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=forum/thread&threadid=126701&page=1 http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=news&id=11096 | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
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bGr.MetHiX
Bulgaria511 Posts
:S this is really sad if true : ( | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On March 02 2014 16:05 digmouse wrote: So all in all, can anyone give this a confirmation? rough translations from german site http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=news&id=11096 As it got to known yesterday, the russian night elf player andrey deadman sobolev was already 2009 murdered, being 21 y/o. The circumstances of his death are very puzzling. all information put together draw the picture of deadman being murdered on 29 september 2009. his death as well as its circumstances were hushed up by moscowian police. only his mother could find out more information as she started researching on her own, after her son didn't return home one evening. deadman is the third WC3 player being found dead in young years, along with alexander veryB1gman semin and seung hyun space park. former EPS player Heinrich "s.o.k.o.l." rennert, who's known to have a good relationship to the russian community, sums things up the following way (quote): "His body was found dead on a street, but there were no investigations at all. also, the description of the body in the morgue was faked. cause of death was officially "Falling from a height", the description of the body stated that the dead man is roughly 35 y/o" - (yes, thirty) - "and about 176cm tall. deadman truely was 190cm tall and 21 y/o. Only by the mother finding the body's pictures by chance she could identify her son. investigators basically didn't care about any details when the mother said her son was missing and apparently didnt even watch the pictures during investigation. as a fact, there are witnesses that observed how a group of people transported deadmans body TO the place where it was found. still, no further investigations were taken, nor was there any punishment or even interest from an official side in the cops, attorney and others that completely failed at the search for Deadman." [rest is a small lookback on Deadman's WC3 career] | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1276 Posts
On September 04 2024 06:10 whereismymind wrote: i know this is old topic over 10y, but i just want to say, we still remember you apm70. can anyone confirm anything if the thing is true aka if someone still saw him alive to debunk this? Why would this be a lie? His mother made his death publich 2014 five years after it happened, so I would be very surprised if anyone can "debunk" this. Also...damn that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. | ||
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