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On February 28 2014 06:15 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:12 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:
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This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? They havent bothered to help until Yankovich started talking about joining the EU, so yea, maybe they arent in such a hurry to hand out more benefits. Especially when the help doesnt come with access to gas pipelines Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Poland or Portugal or further West if they can. Poland and Portugal? Seriously? :DDD I think u forgot to mention Greece aswell, and others ballasts in EU overall economical situation. Keep arguing, that's funny http://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/analyses/2013-06-12/poland-more-attractive-ukrainian-economic-immigrants
Between 2005 and 2008 there were 118,000 Ukrainians in Poland. Between 2010 and 2012 this figure had risen to 168,000. Ukrainian labour migrants in Poland are quite well-educated with 60% of them declaring they have full secondary school education and 12% of them having higher education (in Germany this figure is as high as 90%). They are mainly women, as opposed to Russia, where the majority are men who work in construction and services. The educated people go West. The laborers go to Russia.
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On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2014 05:12 PaleMan wrote:On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
you guys are hilarious
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On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2014 05:12 PaleMan wrote:On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla...
How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic.
You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars.
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On February 28 2014 06:15 zlefin wrote:How do ukrainian corruption levels compare to Russian levels? Are they about the same, or is one significantly higher than the other? Lotsa bias floating around this thread, but that tends to happen 
Its worse in Ukraine (http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/) but when you are the Saudi Arabia of the North, you can be pretty corrupt and still have a functioning economy. When you are a country with an industry left over from the Soviet Era and a political class that is focused on stealing as much as you can there is a lot less to go around.
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On February 28 2014 06:10 Greem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:04 Cheerio wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2014 05:12 PaleMan wrote:On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side. And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, I'm fine to leave in a country without "Right Sector". I'm fine to be close to Russia, that's how I changed my mind during last few days, just tired! Tired of what? What could have possibly tire you so much that you start wishing for more casualties? Its a result of polarization , hes forced to choose side . People with extreme opinion like you force situations like this. People are divided, and thats never good, they cannot agree on anything, even the most basic stuff, because they minds are looking only for differences, because they "side" demand it to prove the point of being "right".
maybe on this forum but there are millions of people whose lives being good ones or being shitty depend on whether ukraine turns away from the corruption and the lack of public spirit in the political class, or doesn't. it isn't a matter of demanding that they be proven "right" it's a matter of are they going to have a chance at a better life or are they going to remain stuck in artificial, imposed-from-the-top drudgery and lower standard of living.
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On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2014 05:12 PaleMan wrote:
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feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it
even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars.
When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused.
Second thing, I don't want to live back to back with idiots that able to capture city administration easily, that throwing a cocktails at police, that crushing streets and monuments with symbols 14/88 on their shields.
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On February 28 2014 06:17 AleXoundOS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:
What?
And arent the Bandera followers already covered by the Right Sector at least the UPA army? Yeah, they are covered. But there are Bandera followers who do not belong to any organized group, they follow him for his nationalist ideas. And of course the whole nationalist opposition won't receive even 10% combined. But parts of them being organized and armed they can do a lot.
Like what?
It does not prevent president from using army. There is information about this, except "And that the next guy Yanukovich could find to lead the army was the Admiral of the Black Fleet? Did he say that?
Yes, generally when the general of the army is fired and his replacement resigns to means he cant use that army because it no longer obeys him. Just like when you have to look for the next commander in line and you cant find a high ranking army general to do your bidding and hire a sailor instead...
Where this information comes from? Everybody is blaming him in Russia.
this guy
A vote of confidence in Yanukovych, from the newly appointed head of the Crimean parliament, Sergei Aksenov, who has been quoted by RIA as saying: “We consider the legitimate president to be Viktor Fyodorovich Yanukovych and we will follow his directions.”
and this guy
Lavrov underscored the need to ensure implementation of a European Union-brokered peace deal that Viktor Yanukovich signed last week before fleeing the Ukrainian capital, the Russian Foreign Ministry said. Yanukovich claims he remains president.
You know, that deal that Russia didnt bother signing?
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On February 28 2014 06:10 PaleMan wrote:
cSc.Dav1oN
you'll be starving but people of TL.net will tell how it is cool to have democracy in your country, thats how it works nowadays
for those who have missed it: why cSc.Dav1oN's dad is losing his job. 1 year ago the the local oligarh Yaroslavskyy was pressured into selling his football club Metalist to one of Yanukovich's close allies, a 28 year old billionaire Kurchenko. Who is widely supposed to be involved in gas fraud schemes. After the protests started he suddenly stopped financing the football club, presumably because all the financial resources of Yanukovich allies went into counter-revolution measures. Now without corruption working for him it would be hard for Kurchenko to keep the football club afloat. cSc.Dav1oN's dad works for Metalist football club.
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On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:
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This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. Second thing, I don't want to live back to back with idiots that able to capture city administration easily, that throwing a cocktails at police, that crushing streets and monuments with symbols 14/88 on their shields.
I drew a bad conclusion from your previous posts, my bad, sorry.
Ask yourself an honest question. Do you seriously believe that these 14/88 idiots are the majority of the people that are in bad shape? Do you honestly think that they are the only ones that live badly and only ones that have reason to protest?
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On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:
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This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. .
Ive never seen this before. "I wish more protesters murdered so a team of millionaire football players can keep playing football"
You must be quite upset.
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On February 28 2014 05:48 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:28 AleXoundOS wrote:On February 28 2014 05:03 Cheerio wrote:
Important note: When Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal in 1994, USA, Russia and GB guaranteed it's sovereignty and territorial integrity and vouched to protect it. At the time Ukraine had 3rd largest nuclear arsenal, larger than GB, France and China combined. So according to it's obligations Russia not only can't support unconstitutional separatism, they actually need to take actions against it. Btw, it's really an important topic. Ukraine has 4 nuclear stations at the moment with 2 of them on the west. This can become a big threat in arms of radical extremists. You'd better not invade Crimea I guess. Any sources that can confirm Ukraine still got nuclear weapons though?
I'm not responsible for Russian government and generally against it. I won't invade Crimea nor support invasion. Why you refer this to me?
As for nuclear weapons I haven't seen any sources implying that Ukraine has them now.
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On February 28 2014 06:30 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
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tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. . Ive never seen this before. "I wish more protesters murdered so a team of millionaire football players can keep playing football" You must be quite upset.
U looks like an idiot, I was talking about constuctional crew and not about footballists, i'm don't care about players salaries, I was talking about typical people that servicing the stadium. U're pathetic
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On February 28 2014 06:35 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:30 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:
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What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. . Ive never seen this before. "I wish more protesters murdered so a team of millionaire football players can keep playing football" You must be quite upset. U looks like an idiot, I was talking about constuctional crew and not about footballists, i'm don't care about players salaries, I was talking about typical people that servicing the stadium. U're pathetic
Well, no point in servicing the stadium if there is no team playing on it, right? It is just logical.
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On February 28 2014 06:10 Greem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:04 Cheerio wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:15 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2014 05:12 PaleMan wrote:On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter. tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia. One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side. And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, I'm fine to leave in a country without "Right Sector". I'm fine to be close to Russia, that's how I changed my mind during last few days, just tired! Tired of what? What could have possibly tire you so much that you start wishing for more casualties? Its a result of polarization , hes forced to choose side . People with extreme opinion like you force situations like this. People are divided, and thats never good, they cannot agree on anything, even the most basic stuff, because they minds are looking only for differences, because they "side" demand it to prove the point of being "right".
what is so extreme about my position/opinion?
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On February 28 2014 06:35 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:30 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:
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What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. . Ive never seen this before. "I wish more protesters murdered so a team of millionaire football players can keep playing football" You must be quite upset. U looks like an idiot, I was talking about constuctional crew and not about footballists, i'm don't care about players salaries, I was talking about typical people that servicing the stadium. U're pathetic
Why wouldnt the previous oligarch, the one who isnt just a money launderer for Yanukovich and Azarenko, just buy it back? I bet it would be cheap too...
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On February 28 2014 06:29 Roman666 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
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tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. Second thing, I don't want to live back to back with idiots that able to capture city administration easily, that throwing a cocktails at police, that crushing streets and monuments with symbols 14/88 on their shields. I drew a bad conclusion from your previous posts, my bad, sorry. Ask yourself an honest question. Do you seriously believe that these 14/88 idiots are the majority of the people that are in bad shape? Do you honestly think that they are the only ones that live badly and only ones that have reason to protest?
There is also a good people amoung of riots, yes, I don't know about how many of them stays at Maidan, no one gonna tell u that. I asked myself, and I belive in things like:
1) If I'm striking by cyvil ways, wtihout cocktails and stones, just simply shouting some slogans and not trying to capture a governmental building, and I'm staning next to the same guys as me - i'm normal oppositioneer which is fine.
2) If I'm arming in shields with 14/88 marks in masks with clubs and cocktails - i'm an extremist, I have to be jailed or maybe even killed by police while attempting to throw a cocktail or while doing some other illeagal staff.
3) If I'm standing right next to a guy I describe in section 2, and not attempting to prevent his intentions, than I'm "a parthner" and I also should be jailed for reason
I see clear difference between this 3 groups
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On February 28 2014 06:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:29 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:37 Sub40APM wrote:
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What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth? What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic? Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. Second thing, I don't want to live back to back with idiots that able to capture city administration easily, that throwing a cocktails at police, that crushing streets and monuments with symbols 14/88 on their shields. I drew a bad conclusion from your previous posts, my bad, sorry. Ask yourself an honest question. Do you seriously believe that these 14/88 idiots are the majority of the people that are in bad shape? Do you honestly think that they are the only ones that live badly and only ones that have reason to protest? There is also a good people amoung of riots, yes, I don't know about how many of them stays at Maidan, no one gonna tell u that. I asked myself, and I belive in things like: 1) If I'm striking by cyvil ways, wtihout cocktails and stones, just simply shouting some slogans and not trying to capture a governmental building, and I'm staning next to the same guys as me - i'm normal oppositioneer which is fine. 2) If I'm arming in shields with 14/88 marks in masks with clubs and cocktails - i'm an extremist, I have to be jailed or maybe even killed by police while attempting to throw a cocktail or while doing some other illeagal staff. 3) If I'm standing right next to a guy I describe in section 2, and not attempting to prevent his intentions, than I'm "a parthner" and I also should be jailed for reason I see clear difference between this 3 groups
collective responsibility for everyone protesting because of actions of extremist?
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On February 28 2014 06:41 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 06:35 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:30 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 06:25 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 06:18 Roman666 wrote:On February 28 2014 06:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:56 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 28 2014 05:42 Sub40APM wrote:On February 28 2014 05:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
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What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right! Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries. The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla... How can you be so egocentric when there is a revolution in your country is mindblowing. Calling for more casualties because your sorry ass can't handle the changes is beyond any logic. You said you are 24 and as you present it, you still live off your father salary. At that age people have their own jobs, you know? Perhaps you should try to find one without bribing anyone and see how it goes. Because this is what these people whose lives you are so indifferent with fighting for. To live like a decent human beings, not like beggars. When did I told that I'm living for my dads salary? U've got wonderful imagination. I do have a job, my mom also got a job, my dad potentially might loose a job aswell as 3/4 of F.C. Metalist crew due to lack of finances, which revolution caused. . Ive never seen this before. "I wish more protesters murdered so a team of millionaire football players can keep playing football" You must be quite upset. U looks like an idiot, I was talking about constuctional crew and not about footballists, i'm don't care about players salaries, I was talking about typical people that servicing the stadium. U're pathetic Why wouldnt the previous oligarch, the one who isnt just a money launderer for Yanukovich and Azarenko, just buy it back? I bet it would be cheap too...
Why? Well I have to go and ask him why? :DD
I think it is obviously, if u wanna buy something at someone by leagal ways, u got to be eye to eye with owner. For now no one knows where is current owner. Maybe in Russian, maybe in Belarus.
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So, Ukrainians, do you want to fix the problems internally, and if so, do you know how to combat corruption effectively?
If you want outside help, how would you choose that help?
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