On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Apart from the fact that this is a bit of savage way to handle it, yeap everyone wins.
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
that's why i wrote that i'm sorry
look what happened to Lybia after so called "peaceful protest" inspired by US - they are literally in ruins now look at Egypt - they were swimming in money from tourists - now everyone is scared to go there - terrorists are taking tourists as hostages etc.
Ukraine will suffer a lot, sad but true
The Egypt takeover was a coup d'état followed by a military junta. It is not even remotely comparably to what is happening in the Ukraine. They just got rid of the president, not much has happened since then. Not every revolution is a slippery slope into a failed state.
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Apart from the fact that this is a bit of savage way to handle it, yeap everyone wins.
Just trying to show our friend here that while its terrible that his father will suffer the suffering in Ukraine has been going on for a while and threatening to punch teeth out because the suffering finally caught up to you is a bad way to live.
On February 28 2014 05:03 Cheerio wrote: Important note: When Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal in 1994, USA, Russia and GB guaranteed it's sovereignty and territorial integrity and vouched to protect it. At the time Ukraine had 3rd largest nuclear arsenal, larger than GB, France and China combined. So according to it's obligations Russia not only can't support unconstitutional separatism, they actually need to take actions against it.
Btw, it's really an important topic. Ukraine has 4 nuclear stations at the moment with 2 of them on the west. This can become a big threat in arms of radical extremists.
You'd better not invade Crimea I guess. Any sources that can confirm Ukraine still got nuclear weapons though?
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Apart from the fact that this is a bit of savage way to handle it, yeap everyone wins.
Just trying to show our friend here that while its terrible that his father will suffer the suffering in Ukraine has been going on for a while and threatening to punch teeth out because the suffering finally caught up to you is a bad way to live.
I understood that completely, was just being sarcastic, that is all. Like breaking teeth will solve your life problems, right?
On February 28 2014 05:03 Cheerio wrote: Important note: When Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal in 1994, USA, Russia and GB guaranteed it's sovereignty and territorial integrity and vouched to protect it. At the time Ukraine had 3rd largest nuclear arsenal, larger than GB, France and China combined. So according to it's obligations Russia not only can't support unconstitutional separatism, they actually need to take actions against it.
Btw, it's really an important topic. Ukraine has 4 nuclear stations at the moment with 2 of them on the west. This can become a big threat in arms of radical extremists.
You'd better not invade Crimea I guess. Any sources that can confirm Ukraine still got nuclear weapons though?
I hear that radicals are aiming the nukes at Moscow, but need a photoshop of Hitler with tac screen and a red button to confirm.
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, I'm fine to leave in a country without "Right Sector".
I'm fine to be close to Russia, that's how I changed my mind during last few days, just tired!
On February 28 2014 04:57 DeepElemBlues wrote: So... "i dont care about you" is a valid reason to make stuff up and then attack someone over it.
ok
lol deb, i was talking about your post history, not a future post you would make.
No, you weren't. Talking about some future scenario and what I would do in it is talking about future posts I would make. And my post history doesn't support your claim anyway. So... where did you get your functioning crystal ball?
The funny thing about you is that you are basically like zeo but yet you attack everyone that doesnt share your point off view. You are even worse than zeo if i think about it.
It's not about me no matter how much you want it to be, and you and zeo are two peas in a pod your attack on me is a classic case of projection
The funny thing is that i m neutral and divided on my opinion about this topic. You are extremely biased just like zeo. Funny that you try to throw me into the same basket and everyone that is not agreeing with you.
Your post history reads like you are working for the US government.
you know that saying? "...he who knows and knows he knows: he is wise - follow him" Being biased towards the truth is actually a good thing.
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
it's all started from so called peaceful protest so it fairly comparable who cares what variations of bad things happened later?
that's why i wrote that i'm sorry
look what happened to Lybia after so called "peaceful protest" inspired by US - they are literally in ruins now look at Egypt - they were swimming in money from tourists - now everyone is scared to go there - terrorists are taking tourists as hostages etc.
Ukraine will suffer a lot, sad but true
The Egypt takeover was a coup d'état followed by a military junta. It is not even remotely comparably to what is happening in the Ukraine. They just got rid of the president, not much has happened since then. Not every revolution is a slippery slope into a failed state.
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation.
The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports.
Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything,
Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries.
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, I'm fine to leave in a country without "Right Sector".
I'm fine to be close to Russia, that's how I changed my mind during last few days, just tired!
Tired of what? What could have possibly tire you so much that you start wishing for more casualties?
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation.
The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports.
Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything,
Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries.
The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help? Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash? Right, they moves in Russia. Where did Yanukovich took his credit? In Russia. Current government got no souces to get more cash, the country economicly f*cked, but yes, we do belive in a bright future, bla-bla-bla...
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation. Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything, I'm fine to leave in a country without "Right Sector".
I'm fine to be close to Russia, that's how I changed my mind during last few days, just tired!
Tired of what? What could have possibly tire you so much that you start wishing for more casualties?
Its a result of polarization , hes forced to choose side . People with extreme opinion like you force situations like this. People are divided, and thats never good, they cannot agree on anything, even the most basic stuff, because they minds are looking only for differences, because they "side" demand it to prove the point of being "right".
On February 28 2014 05:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: My dad is close to loosing his job due to recent events, that won't be good, cyvil war might be coming from the south, considering that Kharkov is on the border with Russia, kidna don't know what to expect and what should I be prepairing for... O_o
feel sorry for you and your dad man
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation.
The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports.
Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything,
Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries.
The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help?
They havent bothered to help until Yankovich started talking about joining the EU, so yea, maybe they arent in such a hurry to hand out more benefits. Especially when the help doesnt come with access to gas pipelines
Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash?
but when US wants to bring chaos to some small country it brings it even if there is only 1 year till president elections they will spill blood and inspire revolution just because they can
This post would be hilarious if it didn't represent actual views. Let the comfort that comes with blaming the US for everything ease you into a 21st century in which actual knowledge simply doesn't matter.
tbh our revolution goes almost the same way as Serbian, just almost totally equal scenario, which kinda strange for me, but it's not the case. I'm tired of those clashed between East and Russia.
One more thing, I wish I could see how Cheerio gonna explain to my dad why revolution is good and needed to be right now! Just 1 year before elections. Not sure how many teeth Cheerio could loose
What if Cheerio's dad lost his job because Yanukovich's friends in the tax police closed it down? Does he get to break your teeth?
What IF? I'm talking about real things happening, not about what if. By the way, why do u thing that I would prove him something like he does during 80+ pages in this topic?
Well, its "IF" because he isnt on here crying about it. But lets say he started crying about it would it be fair? Your dad can break his teeth and his dad will break yours. Everyone wins right!
Once again, u're talking into a perspective. U seems like don't want to understand that I wish everyone could wait until elections, not by doig a revolution, not by complete breaking economical situation.
The breaking of the economic situation was going to happen because Yanukovich, not because of the revolution. The only question that was left is to begin economic reforms now or to be like the Russian industry and become depended completely on oil and gas exports.
Now I'm starting to think that I wish Yanukovich could not that coward, that he could let Berkut shoot in riots when some of them attempts to throw a cocktail or something else, I don't mind if there could be more victims from riots side.
And I don't mind to leave separately from Western Ukraine, let them strike for 100 years long on their side, without donations, without production, without anything,
Yep, and the protesters are the fascists. You realize Russians dont want another 20 million of poor people with useless industries they support because they need the gas pipelines? Good luck to you, the coming economic reforms in the East will be tough. Maybe you can move to Moscow, I hear they are really welcoming to laborers from ex-Soviet countries.
The protesters are toys, simply toys, not tell me about bright future, about uncorrupted politicians came to power, yes-yes, ofc. Russia at least has some cash, they are able to pud 100 billions on Olympic games, which is ridiculous sum, and u do think they won't add close in temrs of culture people, u think they won't help?
They havent bothered to help until Yankovich started talking about joining the EU, so yea, maybe they arent in such a hurry to hand out more benefits. Especially when the help doesnt come with access to gas pipelines
Having so much common in past means a lot. Once a year i'm in Moscow. And u know where people from western parts of Ukraine goes to earn some cash?
Poland or Portugal or further West if they can.
Poland and Portugal? Seriously? :DDD I think u forgot to mention Greece aswell, and others ballasts in EU overall economical situation. Keep arguing, that's funny
One of the reasons for the Maidan was that there were and are lots of people who were put in the same situation his dad cpuld be in because of corruption and gangsterism. That was never going to change with Yanukovych in charge. Hopefully his dad gets another job soon if he does in fact lose it. What the Maidan wants is a country where people like his dad can find another job that is a good job if they need to, without having to *know* someone and without having to pay people off. That was depressingly common during the Yanukovych presidency and Timoshenko's before it, the Maidan is not just anti-Yanukovych it is also against the callousness and greed that has dominated the Ukraine's body politic for a century going back to Soviet rule.
On February 28 2014 05:36 Sub40APM wrote: What? And arent the Bandera followers already covered by the Right Sector at least the UPA army?
Yeah, they are covered. But there are Bandera followers who do not belong to any organized group, they follow him for his nationalist ideas. And of course the whole nationalist opposition won't receive even 10% combined. But parts of them being organized and armed they can do a lot.
On February 28 2014 05:36 Sub40APM wrote: What kind of fascists take over a government because they want (a) democratic elections and (b) join a big organization of democratic states that all have very strong minority protection laws?
That's the thing why I listed several opposition groups. They had one goal - to replace previous government, same goal as peaceful people had. But while Right Sector is controlling the situation, they won't allow Rada with Батьківщина and other parties to "join big organization of democratic states". Not sure about democratic elections as activists can put pressure on any elected official.
On February 28 2014 05:36 Sub40APM wrote: Did the Russian news not have the information that Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian Army was forced to resign by Yanukovich ? Or that his Deputy resigned in protest? And that the next guy Yanukovich could find to lead the army was the Admiral of the Black Fleet?
It does not prevent president from using army. There is information about this, except "And that the next guy Yanukovich could find to lead the army was the Admiral of the Black Fleet? Did he say that?
On February 28 2014 05:36 Sub40APM wrote: Yes...so why is Russia pushing so hard to put him back into Presidency?
Where this information comes from? Everybody is blaming him in Russia.
On February 28 2014 05:36 Sub40APM wrote: Using your 'evidence'...a radical minority armed with..1500 guns. Which means it was only outnumbered by Berkut by 3-1 in light weapons. When we add the fact that Berkut has BMP and the 'radical minority fascists' have...Molotov cocktails.
People at Maidan used same technique as Soviet soldiers fought against Nazi tanks with molotov cocktails if you didn't know.
But now they call it "Grushevsky" cocktail for the name of street in Kiev.
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