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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Reuters: Russia says it might have to drop dollar as a reserve currency and refuse to pay off loans to US banks if the US imposes sanctions over Ukraine Reuters: Russian President Vladimir Putin orders troops engaged in military exercises to return to their bases How much does Russia owe America? | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On March 04 2014 17:45 broz0rs wrote: Holy shit.. unarmed Ukranian soldiers march towards Belbek base to take it back from the Russians!! Read the timeline from Simon Shuster, the TIME Moscow bureau reporter. This is incredible. ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh3NogJIIAEIInv.jpg) https://twitter.com/shustry LOL! This already transpired. The Russians allowed 10 Ukrainian soldiers to stay. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 04 2014 17:53 Pandemona wrote: Reuters: Russia says it might have to drop dollar as a reserve currency and refuse to pay off loans to US banks if the US imposes sanctions over Ukraine Reuters: Russian President Vladimir Putin orders troops engaged in military exercises to return to their bases How much does Russia owe America? Great news for the US, bad news for the US banks investing in Russia and anyone who wanted to see weaker euro and yen and pounds I guess. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 04 2014 17:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: LOL! This already transpired. The Russians allowed 10 Ukrainian soldiers to stay. It's the most genius thing Ukraine could have come up with in this situation. :3 | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:03 r.Evo wrote: It's the most genius thing Ukraine could have come up with in this situation. :3 also smart to call the press if they did. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:03 r.Evo wrote: It's the most genius thing Ukraine could have come up with in this situation. :3 This is already like the strangest invasion, more like a dangerous pushing match since both sides cannot and do not want to shoot at each other (yet). | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:10 mcc wrote: This is already like the strangest invasion, more like a dangerous pushing match since both sides cannot and do not want to shoot at each other (yet). One side realizes that its at a massive disadvantage and the only way it can win is in world opinion. The other side has constructed a version of the world where it cant be seen killing Russian-speaking-Ukrainian soldiers since the only reason its there is to protect Russian speakers. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6334 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:10 mcc wrote: This is already like the strangest invasion, more like a dangerous pushing match since both sides cannot and do not want to shoot at each other (yet). Its more like a bunch of adults are playing 'but I'm not touching you' with military hardware, planes and troops. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:10 mcc wrote: This is already like the strangest invasion, more like a dangerous pushing match since both sides cannot and do not want to shoot at each other (yet). Not so strange. Ukraine knows it has no chance fighting against Russia nor is it interested in doing so anyways, and Russia is not interested in going G.W. Bush and destroying anything that resembles an inhabited area. In other words, the current scenario makes perfect sense. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:15 zeo wrote: Its more like a bunch of adults are playing 'but I'm not touching you' with military hardware, planes and troops. Why does the Russian army have to detain the Ukrainian Army that you said doesnt recognize Kiev and therefore cant commit genocide against Russians? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:15 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Not so strange. Ukraine knows it has no chance fighting against Russia nor is it interested in doing so anyways, and Russia is not interested in going G.W. Bush and destroying anything that resembles an inhabited area. In other words, the current scenario makes perfect sense. To be fair to me the Ukrainian position changed over night, it seems they realized the bullshit in terms of WE NEED TO MOBILIZE OUR TROOPS and WE WILL NEVER GIVE AWAY CRIMEA won't work because they have nothing to threaten with while this kind of approach might actually be smart enough to get away with. The day Ghandi tried to conquer Russia, basically. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6334 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:25 r.Evo wrote: To be fair to me the Ukrainian position changed over night, it seems they realized the bullshit in terms of WE NEED TO MOBILIZE OUR TROOPS and WE WILL NEVER GIVE AWAY CRIMEA won't work because they have nothing to threaten with while this kind of approach might actually be smart enough to get away with. The day Ghandi tried to conquer Russia, basically. Doesn't this prove the Russians are there as peacekeepers if they didn't shoot everybody? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:31 zeo wrote: Doesn't this prove the Russians are there as peacekeepers if they didn't shoot everybody? No, because technically you don't just march into another nation to "peacekeep" without being invited to do so. The issue isn't what they're doing once there, the issue is that they have, from a western perspective, no right to be there in the first place. | ||
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discomatt
113 Posts
I don't think this has been posted yet. Apologies if it has. I'd like to thank everyone here for the updates and dialogue (minus the occasional personal attacks) | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:31 zeo wrote: Doesn't this prove the Russians are there as peacekeepers if they didn't shoot everybody? Only if they go home after their "peacekeeping" job is over. Something tells me, that the mission of keeping the russian people from threats that are not actually existent, wont end soon. Basically the russian troops can stay in Crimea until Russia manages to put another puppet as president of Ukraine... Everyone that is not their puppet will be called Fascist that threatens the russian speaking people and that will be the excuse for millitary ocupation of Crimea. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
no reliable source + Show Spoiler + Авианосная группа ВМС США в составе 17 кораблей и трех атомных подводных лодок, во главе с новейшим авианосцем "Джордж Буш", прошла Эгейское море. Первый эсминец группы войдет в Черное море 7 марта, сообщают "Конфликты и законы" со ссылкой на ipvnews.nl. Сил этой армады достаточно, чтобы предотвратить вторжение "русского мира" на украинскую землю и остановить агрессию. Официальных подтверждений этому факту пока нет. In response to a Russian invasion, the United States has sent an aircraft carrier strike group into the Black Sea toward the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine. The super-carrier USS George W. Bush plus seventeen other ships and three submarines passed through the Aegean sea this afternoon. The George W. Bush is carrying 90 aircraft and helicopters of various types, including several squadron's of F-22 Raptors, the most advanced combat aircraft in the world. The submarines each have twenty four missile silos, with each silo housing a missile armed with eight separate nuclear warheads which operate as MIRV's (Multiple Independent Re-Entry Vehicles) that can be independently targeted. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4740 Posts
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Saihv
Finland54 Posts
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