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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 04 2014 07:57 GMT
#3781
On March 04 2014 16:53 likeasu wrote:
Are u really afraid of Putin? xD It seem like a paranoia.
I`m not fan of our president, I dont like some his decisions. I voted for another person on last votes. But I very respect him for his politic position on world scene.
Zyuganov or Zhirinovsky?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 04 2014 07:59 GMT
#3782
On March 04 2014 16:45 likeasu wrote:
HORRAY! USA saved once more time the world against ugly Russians! =)
Before this USA (include another NATO countries too) saved a lot of times the World by bombing:
-Lebanon 1982-84
-Grenada 1983-84
-Libya 1986
-El Salvador 1981-92
-Nicaragua 1981-90
-Iran 1987-88
-Libya 1989
-Panama 1989-90
-Iraq 1991
-Kuwait 1991
-Somalia 1992-94
-Bosnia 1995
-Iran 1998
-Sudan 1998
-Afghanistan 1998
-Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
-Afghanistan 2001
-Libya 2011

And where is Iraq lol?
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
March 04 2014 08:01 GMT
#3783
On March 04 2014 16:59 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 16:45 likeasu wrote:
HORRAY! USA saved once more time the world against ugly Russians! =)
Before this USA (include another NATO countries too) saved a lot of times the World by bombing:
-Lebanon 1982-84
-Grenada 1983-84
-Libya 1986
-El Salvador 1981-92
-Nicaragua 1981-90
-Iran 1987-88
-Libya 1989
-Panama 1989-90
-Iraq 1991
-Kuwait 1991
-Somalia 1992-94
-Bosnia 1995
-Iran 1998
-Sudan 1998
-Afghanistan 1998
-Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
-Afghanistan 2001
-Libya 2011

And where is Iraq lol?


-Iraq 1991

With the sanctions and 2003 war, technically speaking, hostilities against Iraq never actually ended until the military withdrawal a couple years back.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 04 2014 08:04 GMT
#3784
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
March 04 2014 08:04 GMT
#3785
Carl Bildt@carlbildt So Ukraine now has got its own Quisling. Sitting on foreign soil begging a foreign army to give his country to him.
likeasu
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation88 Posts
March 04 2014 08:04 GMT
#3786
The most sad thing for Ukrainians - they think Europe+states are their friends and helpers. But in fact Europe don`t need Ukraine economic and politic problems. Their help is only words+words+words + sure cookies by Victoria Nuland.
People are so stupid in mass =(
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 04 2014 08:05 GMT
#3787

BEIJING — A Chinese spokeswoman says the country's military is prepared to respond to all provocations, ahead of the expected announcement of another big bump in defense spending.

Legislative spokeswoman Fu Ying said Tuesday that China supports resolving disputes through negotiations and the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army is for defensive purposes. However, Fu said the military was ready to make an "effective response" to protect the country's sovereignty and maintain regional security.

Fu's remarks come amid festering disputes between China and her neighbors over the control of islands and sea lanes in the East China and South China Seas.

China will announce its latest defense budget on Wednesday. Defense spending rose 10.7 percent last year to 720 billion yuan ($114 billion), the most for any nation apart from the U.S.
Source


Anyone familiar with Chinese rhetoric on this topic? Is this regular bluster or a potential response to Russian aggression?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 04 2014 08:07 GMT
#3788
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_PUTINS_CHOICE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-03-17-22-10

Since three months of protests, which included elements of Ukrainian nationalism, drove the Moscow-supported government out of Kiev, Russian state television has portrayed Ukraine as under threat from "fascists" supported by the West. If Putin were to back down now, Russians would see it as his failure.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 08:14:33
March 04 2014 08:09 GMT
#3789
On March 04 2014 17:04 likeasu wrote:
The most sad thing for Ukrainians - they think Europe+states are their friends and helpers. But in fact Europe don`t need Ukraine economic and politic problems. Their help is only words+words+words + sure cookies by Victoria Nuland.
People are so stupid in mass =(

Good thing you have President Putin to make all the complicated decisions for Russian people, no need to think too hard.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
March 04 2014 08:09 GMT
#3790
On March 04 2014 17:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +

BEIJING — A Chinese spokeswoman says the country's military is prepared to respond to all provocations, ahead of the expected announcement of another big bump in defense spending.

Legislative spokeswoman Fu Ying said Tuesday that China supports resolving disputes through negotiations and the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army is for defensive purposes. However, Fu said the military was ready to make an "effective response" to protect the country's sovereignty and maintain regional security.

Fu's remarks come amid festering disputes between China and her neighbors over the control of islands and sea lanes in the East China and South China Seas.

China will announce its latest defense budget on Wednesday. Defense spending rose 10.7 percent last year to 720 billion yuan ($114 billion), the most for any nation apart from the U.S.
Source


Anyone familiar with Chinese rhetoric on this topic? Is this regular bluster or a potential response to Russian aggression?

I doubt it has much to do with Russia. I just know China has serious problems with everyone else in the Far East, most especially Japan.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
March 04 2014 08:11 GMT
#3791
On March 04 2014 17:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +

BEIJING — A Chinese spokeswoman says the country's military is prepared to respond to all provocations, ahead of the expected announcement of another big bump in defense spending.

Legislative spokeswoman Fu Ying said Tuesday that China supports resolving disputes through negotiations and the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army is for defensive purposes. However, Fu said the military was ready to make an "effective response" to protect the country's sovereignty and maintain regional security.

Fu's remarks come amid festering disputes between China and her neighbors over the control of islands and sea lanes in the East China and South China Seas.

China will announce its latest defense budget on Wednesday. Defense spending rose 10.7 percent last year to 720 billion yuan ($114 billion), the most for any nation apart from the U.S.
Source


Anyone familiar with Chinese rhetoric on this topic? Is this regular bluster or a potential response to Russian aggression?

It's a response to the response of the US to Russian aggression.

Yesterdays stock market movements showed nicely who is the winner of this all. Markets down: Japan, Russia, Europe, US. Markets up: China.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
March 04 2014 08:11 GMT
#3792
On March 04 2014 17:04 likeasu wrote:
The most sad thing for Ukrainians - they think Europe+states are their friends and helpers. But in fact Europe don`t need Ukraine economic and politic problems. Their help is only words+words+words + sure cookies by Victoria Nuland.
People are so stupid in mass =(

well at least they are not sending "peacekeepers" in with the aim of ripping chunks of our land off to themselves. This is actually a lot by the current standards.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 04 2014 08:13 GMT
#3793
On March 04 2014 15:34 Sub40APM wrote:
Noted foreign policy specialist Steven Seagal weighs in on the issues of today



I'm genuinely amazed that one of the best comments so far has to come from someone like him. ._.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 04 2014 08:15 GMT
#3794
On March 04 2014 17:09 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 17:05 Ghanburighan wrote:

BEIJING — A Chinese spokeswoman says the country's military is prepared to respond to all provocations, ahead of the expected announcement of another big bump in defense spending.

Legislative spokeswoman Fu Ying said Tuesday that China supports resolving disputes through negotiations and the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army is for defensive purposes. However, Fu said the military was ready to make an "effective response" to protect the country's sovereignty and maintain regional security.

Fu's remarks come amid festering disputes between China and her neighbors over the control of islands and sea lanes in the East China and South China Seas.

China will announce its latest defense budget on Wednesday. Defense spending rose 10.7 percent last year to 720 billion yuan ($114 billion), the most for any nation apart from the U.S.
Source


Anyone familiar with Chinese rhetoric on this topic? Is this regular bluster or a potential response to Russian aggression?

I doubt it has much to do with Russia. I just know China has serious problems with everyone else in the Far East, most especially Japan.

It seems more like it. With Japanese displaying new levels of stupidity by some "officials" denying things like Nanjing massacre ever happening , it is more likely just regional PR statement.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 04 2014 08:22 GMT
#3795
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 04 2014 08:23 GMT
#3796
http://qz.com/183657/chinas-support-for-russias-ukraine-incursion-is-half-hearted-at-best/
In an unsigned op-ed, China’s state-run Global Times declared this week that the “evolution of the Ukrainian situation shows us clearly that in the international political arena, principles are decided by power,” before calling the US a “doormat” in the situation. “Military power is one of the most vital sources of strength for any country, though nations also need other powers,” the editorial concluded said. “What is happening between Moscow and Kiev repeats that lesson.”
likeasu
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation88 Posts
March 04 2014 08:26 GMT
#3797
to Sub40APM
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User was warned for this post
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 04 2014 08:44 GMT
#3798
On March 04 2014 17:11 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 17:05 Ghanburighan wrote:

BEIJING — A Chinese spokeswoman says the country's military is prepared to respond to all provocations, ahead of the expected announcement of another big bump in defense spending.

Legislative spokeswoman Fu Ying said Tuesday that China supports resolving disputes through negotiations and the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army is for defensive purposes. However, Fu said the military was ready to make an "effective response" to protect the country's sovereignty and maintain regional security.

Fu's remarks come amid festering disputes between China and her neighbors over the control of islands and sea lanes in the East China and South China Seas.

China will announce its latest defense budget on Wednesday. Defense spending rose 10.7 percent last year to 720 billion yuan ($114 billion), the most for any nation apart from the U.S.
Source


Anyone familiar with Chinese rhetoric on this topic? Is this regular bluster or a potential response to Russian aggression?

It's a response to the response of the US to Russian aggression.

Yesterdays stock market movements showed nicely who is the winner of this all. Markets down: Japan, Russia, Europe, US. Markets up: China.

You might be reading too much into the market movements. China's stock market is still down 100 points from where it was Feb 19 and Nikkey is up from its Feb 5 lows, the Asian markets are probably doing their own thing..
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
March 04 2014 08:45 GMT
#3799
Holy shit.. unarmed Ukranian soldiers march towards Belbek base to take it back from the Russians!!

Read the timeline from Simon Shuster, the TIME Moscow bureau reporter. This is incredible.

[image loading]

https://twitter.com/shustry
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6243 Posts
March 04 2014 08:53 GMT
#3800
On March 04 2014 17:44 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 17:11 zatic wrote:
On March 04 2014 17:05 Ghanburighan wrote:

BEIJING — A Chinese spokeswoman says the country's military is prepared to respond to all provocations, ahead of the expected announcement of another big bump in defense spending.

Legislative spokeswoman Fu Ying said Tuesday that China supports resolving disputes through negotiations and the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army is for defensive purposes. However, Fu said the military was ready to make an "effective response" to protect the country's sovereignty and maintain regional security.

Fu's remarks come amid festering disputes between China and her neighbors over the control of islands and sea lanes in the East China and South China Seas.

China will announce its latest defense budget on Wednesday. Defense spending rose 10.7 percent last year to 720 billion yuan ($114 billion), the most for any nation apart from the U.S.
Source


Anyone familiar with Chinese rhetoric on this topic? Is this regular bluster or a potential response to Russian aggression?

It's a response to the response of the US to Russian aggression.

Yesterdays stock market movements showed nicely who is the winner of this all. Markets down: Japan, Russia, Europe, US. Markets up: China.

You might be reading too much into the market movements. China's stock market is still down 100 points from where it was Feb 19 and Nikkey is up from its Feb 5 lows, the Asian markets are probably doing their own thing..

China's stock market is hardly a market. You shouldn't read too much into it.
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