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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
She is certainly not the only one | ||
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r.Evo
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r.Evo
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e: Or did he mean the leadership of Crimea is more legitimate than anything in Kiev because they had public elections about it while Kiev didn't? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On March 04 2014 20:01 r.Evo wrote: Wowowowow. Did he just explain that Crimea elected their own legitimate president of... Ukraine? What. e: Or did he mean the leadership of Crimea is more legitimate than anything in Kiev because they had public elections about it while Kiev didn't? President of Crimea, not Ukraine. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
Prime Minister of Crimea, it doesn't have a president since '95 | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
Called it. | ||
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sgtnoobkilla
Australia249 Posts
On March 04 2014 19:53 zatic wrote: Carriers fit fine through there. Hmm fair point. Then again, even if the carrier group decided to divert in there they'd just be a symbolic gesture more than anything (ala carriers between China and Taiwan). It would make more sense to use those bases in Bulgaria or Poland if the US really wanted to intervene. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On March 04 2014 18:35 discomatt wrote: I don't think this has been posted yet. Apologies if it has. Wow this is pretty cool to see. | ||
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Fjodorov
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On March 04 2014 20:04 r.Evo wrote: Clearly says Russia does not want to annex Crimea however also clearly says that the people should be able to exercise their right of self-determination and be allowed to do what they want. Called it. Im sure he has the same reasoning regarding such regions in russia :o | ||
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r.Evo
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Salazarz
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r.Evo
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Next thing that's going to happen is "Ukrainian troops" opening fire on Russians / civilians and Russia using that as a reason to to escalate the situation under the pretense of a war to defend the people. Whether those will be actual Ukrainians or Russians in other uniforms won't matter. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On March 04 2014 20:09 Salazarz wrote: To be fair, Yanukovich IS the elected president of Ukraine, and despite the corruption and shittiness of Ukrainean government (not just the president's office but as a whole), his election was pretty closely monitored and was considered legitimate - whereas his ousting was by no means such. He wasn't impeached, there hadn't been a referendum or anything to get rid of him, either. Well he did start gunning down citizens in the streets, so theres that... | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On March 04 2014 20:09 Salazarz wrote: To be fair, Yanukovich IS the elected president of Ukraine, and despite the corruption and shittiness of Ukrainean government (not just the president's office but as a whole), his election was pretty closely monitored and was considered legitimate - whereas his ousting was by no means such. He wasn't impeached, there hadn't been a referendum or anything to get rid of him, either. besides the policemen and defenders of their state who are being attacked by revolutionists, this is the worst part of this all, there was NO election after the revolution YET the western countries think Oleksandr Turchynov is legit. i don't understand this. maybe someone can explain it to me | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On March 04 2014 20:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Well he did start gunning down citizens in the streets, so theres that... According to Putin he never gave such an order. Which, while possibly true, will be completely unverifiable by anyone. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On March 04 2014 20:12 Undead1993 wrote: besides the policemen and defenders of their state who are being attacked by revolutionists, this is the worst part of this all, there was NO election after the revolution YET the western countries think Oleksandr Turchynov is legit. i don't understand this. maybe someone can explain it to me It cannot be explained because there is no explanation. The junta in Kiev is illegitimate. | ||
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kukarachaa
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Fjodorov
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On March 04 2014 20:12 Undead1993 wrote: besides the policemen and defenders of their state who are being attacked by revolutionists, this is the worst part of this all, there was NO election after the revolution YET the western countries think Oleksandr Turchynov is legit. i don't understand this. maybe someone can explain it to me Yanukovich fled the country after using snipers on demonstrants. The parlament, including his own party, voted to remove Yanukovich. Elections are set for 25 may or something like that. | ||
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