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Gorsameth
Netherlands22307 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:06 PaleMan wrote: don't make me search youtube to show you HOW potesters treated in YOUR country Go find one where medics are shot by police snipers Go find one where there leaders are kidnapped and tortured Go find one where they are shot at with live ammo. Oh wait you cant.... | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On March 02 2014 05:56 PaleMan wrote: some sources claim China will fully support Russia in UN It's the same type of support that USSR and Germany had when they split up Poland. China has had it's eyes on Russian territories for decades now. It's only a matter of time and weakness of Russia when they start to act. If Russia gets severely weakened by economic sanctions from the West that would be perfect for China. And some kind of war (even some small one) between Nato and Russia would be even better. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:06 PaleMan wrote: don't make me search youtube to show you HOW potesters treated in YOUR country http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWwDsPSe7iM guess smth is not right in Germany atm You start to get extremely annoying. Before you link idiotic videos, fcking read what they're about. Let me tell you: you have absolutely ZERO idea. PS: those are not protesters but organized punks who do this once every year. | ||
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Knuty
Germany68 Posts
and i dont see people getting sniped in the head in that video..... maiden was on a whole nother level | ||
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zeonmx
United States111 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:08 Cheerio wrote: it's the same type of support that USSR and Germany had when they split up Poland. China has had it's eyes on Russian territories for decades now. It's only a matter of time and weakness of Russia when they start to act. Sorry to burst your bubble, China never had intention of getting territories from Russia, but they are intended on getting territories from other South East Asian nations and maritime territories from japan. China will go to war with Taiwan and Japan before shifting their tension on Russia (if they ever come to that). | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:08 Gorsameth wrote: Go find one where medics are shot by police snipers Go find one where there leaders are kidnapped and tortured Go find one where they are shot at with live ammo. Oh wait you cant.... Go find one where medics are shot by police snipers - by EU snipers you want to say, because ukranian police is not stupid to do this Go find one where there leaders are kidnapped and tortured - yeah Maidan activists kidnapped and tortured a lot of ppl, some of them were cut in parts Go find one where they are shot at with live ammo - it is probably already deleted | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:09 m4ini wrote: You start to get extremely annoying. Before you link idiotic videos, fcking read what they're about. Let me tell you: you have absolutely ZERO idea. PS: those are not protesters but organized punks who do this once every year. organized punks in Ukraine make Maidan every 9 years (1st one was in 2004) | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22307 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:12 PaleMan wrote: Go find one where medics are shot by police snipers - by EU snipers you want to say, because ukranian police is not stupid to do this Go find one where there leaders are kidnapped and tortured - yeah Maidan activists kidnapped and tortured a lot of ppl, some of them were cut in parts Go find one where they are shot at with live ammo - it is probably already deleted haha god your hilarious. keep it up you might make sense one day. | ||
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Knuty
Germany68 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:12 PaleMan wrote: Go find one where medics are shot by police snipers - by EU snipers you want to say, because ukranian police is not stupid to do this Go find one where there leaders are kidnapped and tortured - yeah Maidan activists kidnapped and tortured a lot of ppl, some of them were cut in parts Go find one where they are shot at with live ammo - it is probably already deleted Good lord. There's no hope for Russia if all of its citizens are like this. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag. http://inserbia.info/news/2014/03/ukraines-navy-flagship-refuses-to-follow-orders-from-kiev-report/ Can anyone confirm this? (its on RT too) http://rt.com/news/ukraine-navy-flaghsip-protest-389/ | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:13 PaleMan wrote: organized punks in Ukraine make Maidan every 9 years (1st one was in 2004) I am talking about punks in a literal sense, who actively attack police. But i'm done "discussing" with you since i actually think you're a troll, and not a funny one on top. At least i hope so, for your sake. Just sad that you have to derail the thread time after time again with borderline retarded assumptions to seemingly distract from what's actually going on. | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:15 zeo wrote: http://inserbia.info/news/2014/03/ukraines-navy-flagship-refuses-to-follow-orders-from-kiev-report/ Can anyone confirm this? (its on RT too) http://rt.com/news/ukraine-navy-flaghsip-protest-389/ i can confirm this, we have this in the news | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
any evidence? that's right - none but somehow you are so sure it was ukrainian police sniper | ||
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:18 PaleMan wrote: i can confirm this, we have this in the news Of course you do, the original is from "Russia Today". The confirmation must come from elsewhere... Edit: I'm not saying it's not true. I'm saying you're clueless about sources. | ||
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:04 zeo wrote: Russia will just sell to Asia. Do you have any idea what will happen to Europe if half the supply of gas just stops? Nobody wants a breakdown of trade and relations. Europe is full of Shale gas: link: Shale gas in the World. , and middle east is really near, and also N.A.F.T.A. a.k.a USA and the rest of Americas'. Nobody likes your dirty tricks Russia. If only you'd be a nice peacefull democratic country, whole Europe, from Iceland to Ural mountains would be prosperous and happy, but no... ehhh... Just get this Putin guy and his corrupted band out of rule so we can live peacefully and prosperously. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On March 02 2014 07:59 zeonmx wrote: Upon actually reading it, the only defense commitment is to seek a UNSC resolution in the case of use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine. Russia is in breach of their own commitments to Ukraine, but the US is only bound to consult the UK and Russia in that event. If anything, there's likely more fruitful commitments in the preliminary negotiations between Ukraine and NATO. The beauty of diplomatic language. A document titled "Memorandum on Security Assurances [...]" which contains no actual security assurances. It does seem you are correct. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
tl;dr answer: "Political and economical isolation." | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22307 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:28 r.Evo wrote: Press question towards the US representative: "What are the costs you are speaking about and does it worry you that four of the new ministers in the Ukraine are from the far right?" tl;dr answer: "Political and economical isolation." Because that always works so well... | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 02 2014 08:24 PaleMan wrote: you have no proofs about snipers but you are so sure it was police sniper any evidence? that's right - none but somehow you are so sure it was ukrainian police sniper Sniper in police uniform, shooting protesters opposing their employer after being ordered so = EU sniper. That totally makes sense. Did your media confirm that as well? Edit: not to mention, did it even occur to you that the only benefitor of everything that happened is russia and not the EU? If you want to put a tinfoil hat on, feel free to - but look in your country, one of the most crooked and corrupt in the world, first. I'll stick with police. | ||
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