EPTLol it doesn't matter if the account only has 17 posts, you can check his history and see that he streams at a high grandmaster level.
Core Professional Gaming a scam? - Page 9
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aznheat80
United States186 Posts
Lol it doesn't matter if the account only has 17 posts, you can check his history and see that he streams at a high grandmaster level. | ||
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States1047 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:12 aznheat80 wrote: Lol it doesn't matter if the account only has 17 posts, you can check his history and see that he streams at a high grandmaster level. Doesn't matter if he's GM and streams. Flawed logic just the same. You're on TL bro, and post count has a direct reflection on activity within the community and how they can be seen/portrayed. So honestly Post count > stream. | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:53 JonSnow wrote: Hello, i recently joined CORE and they have been really nice and professional towards me. I've already been paid and have been talking on a regular basis with the guy in charge, Justin, and he seems extremely organized and passionate about the scene. The management have great plans for the future, and I feel it's a shame that this drama is being created without any cause for it. If you guys have any concerns about the team i think they will be resolved by the end of the month. Edit: Also the gear they promised me came today, so i'm pretty sure this isn't a scam. No reason for it? No organization (at least the ones who try to appear as professional as yours tries to) would ever do things like go into a twitch chat to make an offer to a player or tell a player that you'll help pay for his rent. They also wouldn't have an individual be apart of their organization that brings so much negative attention because of the some of the things he's done and they wouldn't have so much inconsistency of information. That's why it's hard to believe your team is legitimate. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:12 aznheat80 wrote: Lol it doesn't matter if the account only has 17 posts, you can check his history and see that he streams at a high grandmaster level. because I'm supposed to believe what someone says whose only posted 5 times so far this year. | ||
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States1047 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:53 JonSnow wrote: Hello, i recently joined CORE and they have been really nice and professional towards me. I've already been paid and have been talking on a regular basis with the guy in charge, Justin, and he seems extremely organized and passionate about the scene. The management have great plans for the future, and I feel it's a shame that this drama is being created without any cause for it. If you guys have any concerns about the team i think they will be resolved by the end of the month. Edit: Also the gear they promised me came today, so i'm pretty sure this isn't a scam. Yeah? No joke? It really came today? You know how easy it is to make a claim especially after everything has been going on with this thread? Guess what, I received the gear that they promised someone else. They sent it to the wrong person. Prove that didnt happen? You can't. Just like you can't prove you did receive whatever you were promised. Flawed logic once again from another individual. It's not hard to piece together this random puzzle that honestly shouldnt have even blown up to this matter, but now that it has, you will see alot of people just witch hunt and you're going to have a hell of a time even gaining respect or being recognized by the community. Might as well just stop the potential lies and just admit the truth. | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:23 FT.aCt)Sony wrote: Yeah? No joke? It really came today? You know how easy it is to make a claim especially after everything has been going on with this thread? Guess what, I received the gear that they promised someone else. They sent it to the wrong person. Prove that didnt happen? You can't. Just like you can't prove you did receive whatever you were promised. Flawed logic once again from another individual. It's not hard to piece together this random puzzle that honestly shouldnt have even blown up to this matter, but now that it has, you will see alot of people just witch hunt and you're going to have a hell of a time even gaining respect or being recognized by the community. Might as well just stop the potential lies and just admit the truth. This thread blowing up wouldn't make it any harder for them to gain respect to be honest. From the moment I heard Nanocloud was involved with the team, all I've heard from people (mainly other team managers/owners) say were mainly negative things about him and the organization for associating with him. This thread may have made it a bit more out to the public but when it comes to other teams, they didn't have much respect for them from the start. This is in regards to the organization, not the players | ||
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States1047 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:31 eLeVaTioN wrote: This thread blowing up wouldn't make it any harder for them to gain respect to be honest. From the moment I heard Nanocloud was involved with the team, all I've heard from people (mainly other team managers/owners) say were mainly negative things about him and the organization for associating with him. This thread may have made it a bit more out to the public but when it comes to other teams, they didn't have much respect for them from the start. This is in regards to the organization, not the players And i'll say the same thing I said earlier, This shit wouldn't have happened in SC1/BW. Reasons like this is why I don't care enough to actually play let alone bother to try and play anymore. Lose all motivation after a few days because of something stupid happening, let alone people dont care about the community anymore or the past players that made the community what it is today. Aside from that, you have the pathetic design team that doesn't really care either but beside that derail. Once you get a piss poor image from the community, good luck getting back (As you said Elevation), and I'm truly surprised that a moderator hasn't stepped into this thread and just steam rolled peoples flawed logic (mainly the new posting accounts that all of sudden have "a reason" to post and "protect" their potential lie). All in good time I guess. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
Which means core gaming is legit but they didn't know about this guy nanocloud who brought in all the players is a fraud. It is not the fault of core gaming. | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:42 rei wrote: Which means core gaming is legit but they didn't know about this guy nanocloud who brought in all the players is a fraud. It is not the fault of core gaming. That's debatable. They claim to perform background checks for all management figures yet a simple background check for Nanocloud (at least in relation to Starcraft) would have brought up the situation we had a few days ago with him forging skype conversations in an attempt to tarnish 2 manager's reputations and then the GM boosting scandal which both issues were proven that he lied. So I do still find it at the fault of Core Gaming for associating with this individual. Either they didn't check and that's just their wrong doing or they did and didn't give a fuck which would show their true character. | ||
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Ironsights
United States196 Posts
You ask for managers to present themselves and prove legitimacy: managers make accounts to do so and you point out the accounts are new and claim they belong to Nano. You ask for opinions from the inside, and Core Community members post. They get ignored. Basically every single post from the OP brings up Nanocloud in some form or another. At this point it is 100% clear to me that this thread is some combination of a personal vendetta, a witch hunt, trolling, or just plain drama mongering. There is no point whatsoever in continuing this conversation since nothing we say seems to matter. Honestly, I expect better out of the TL community. This is the behavior I would have expected on bnet forums, honestly. I bid you all good day. I am done with this thread. | ||
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FACKCORE
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FACKCORE
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 13 2013 03:02 Ironsights wrote: You ask for proof that players got gear/paid...players say they got gear/paid and someone claims they made it up. You ask for managers to present themselves and prove legitimacy: managers make accounts to do so and you point out the accounts are new and claim they belong to Nano. You ask for opinions from the inside, and Core Community members post. They get ignored. Basically every single post from the OP brings up Nanocloud in some form or another. At this point it is 100% clear to me that this thread is some combination of a personal vendetta, a witch hunt, trolling, or just plain drama mongering. There is no point whatsoever in continuing this conversation since nothing we say seems to matter. Honestly, I expect better out of the TL community. This is the behavior I would have expected on bnet forums, honestly. I bid you all good day. I am done with this thread. One person confirmed he never got paid and admitted the situation was sketchy. I never said they made it up. I only questioned your manager since he claimed everyone got paid and received their gear already I also never said the managers were fake people. Other people have but not me. They showed up in the post but didn't really answer the questions being asked, rather they dodged a lot of it. Yeah, I bring up nanocloud but I bring up a number of things outside of him as well. Again, questions haven't been answered so yes I keep bringing it up to get an explanation. This has nothing to do with a personal vendetta or a witch hunt. Nanocloud already ruined his reputation last week when he was caught forging skype conversations trying to show two team managers making false accusations against Clarity Gaming and then him admitting to being boosted into GM (which is a huge issue considering he was a "coach"). He was then banned off of TL, so why would I make this post to hunt for him if he's already gone? I've made it very clear, there are a large number of people who question the team, I'm just the one who made the post and has continued to post. Questions are being dodged, if you have nothing to hide and everything about the team is legitimate then why is your organization only answering bits and pieces but leaving the rest? And then claiming everything I'm saying is false yet I've posted numerous skype conversations to back up many of the questions we have | ||
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FosTA
Canada154 Posts
Let the team come out like they said they would on September 1st~, and lets go from there. This team has a lot riding on them now being already called out for scamming. If they do scam, don't pay or XZY then we have the right to say "I told you so". But until then give them a chance. From my point of view, I would not trust this group. I hope the players don't get hurt, and other AM teams. From a Manager point of view, it is hard to "compete" with teams like theses. There is a small pool of free agents for teams to choose from that have a low cost, then having teams that offer more then they are worth just cripples the other teams offer. Example. Team 1 offers Paid Travel. Team 2 offers $100 Month + Gear + Travel. Every player would go Team 2, but then the question is does Team 2 live up to what they said. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
take it from someone with around 5 times ur post count, post count means NOTHING. OT- this thread is silly. | ||
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Days
United States219 Posts
I have a couple of friends on Core gaming, and I really wish you guys the best of luck. But if you want to take a word of advice and actually flourish in the sc2 community, a wise decision would be getting rid of nanocloud/milad/ironsights. You can just see how much drama he has brought on you guys. | ||
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E.L.V.I.S
Belgium458 Posts
On August 13 2013 03:43 Days wrote: I just want to clarify one thing. Ironsights is infact nanocloud, if you look at their website he has a picture of the supposed Milad with the ironsights nickname. And hey look at that, the same ironsights ferociously defending the team and nano's reputation on forums.... what a coincidence. Its funny how nano always says "he is done with this thread" but believe me, he cares too much about his reputation to not let a single comment in this thread get past him, and he will comment again. I have a couple of friends on Core gaming, and I really wish you guys the best of luck. But if you want to take a word of advice and actually flourish in the sc2 community, a wise decision would be getting rid of nanocloud/milad/ironsights. You can just see how much drama he has brought on you guys. You don't understand a thing you poor fool. They both are Milad ! | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 13 2013 03:39 FosTA wrote: I'd say this has gone on enough. Players need to be smart enough to be able to tell of something is a scam or just sounds too good to be true. Let the team come out like they said they would on September 1st~, and lets go from there. This team has a lot riding on them now being already called out for scamming. If they do scam, don't pay or XZY then we have the right to say "I told you so". But until then give them a chance. From my point of view, I would not trust this group. I hope the players don't get hurt, and other AM teams. From a Manager point of view, it is hard to "compete" with teams like theses. There is a small pool of free agents for teams to choose from that have a low cost, then having teams that offer more then they are worth just cripples the other teams offer. Example. Team 1 offers Paid Travel. Team 2 offers $100 Month + Gear + Travel. Every player would go Team 2, but then the question is does Team 2 live up to what they said. I agree with this. Although this wasn't a direct call out of "Oh, this team is a scam", it was based on a lot of information that this team seemed really sketchy and the possibility of it being a scam could exist. That last paragraph is so true though. OT - I'm done posting, we'll wait and see how this team unfolds | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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