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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 12 2013 21:00 GMT
#41
On July 13 2013 05:55 Tirean wrote:
If E-sports is really going to start getting promoted into the "Professional Athlete" status then I feel in the contracts they should have to be able to pass a physical test.

Promoting a healthy lifestyle should be the job of these as they will be role models.. Being a role model while not looking after yourself isn't very good for the next generation.

Also I wonder how much money Riot spent in achieving this.


I am getting really tired of this. Virtually in any thread about pro-gamers, these people come in a start promoting their "healthy lifestyle", whatever that means.

Is it now compulsary? When you like e-sports, you have to be into physical fitness? Who decided that? Everybody acts like this was something beyond any question, which is absurd.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
July 12 2013 21:00 GMT
#42
Riot's not gonna fight for other companies. If Blizzard or Valve wants this, they're already benefiting from Riot, as they set a precedent.

This is a win for all eSports, but unless the other companies are proactive enough to do something about this, they're not gonna get the same privilege.

Now if Riot did do something to monopolize this, such as bar other games from having this status, then there's an issue.
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Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
July 12 2013 21:00 GMT
#43
On July 13 2013 05:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Goes to show that you can do anything in the US with the proper application of lobbying money.

Should make it easier for other eSports to get the same legal benefits now, at least.

This. Any other e-sport application would be answered the same with enough lobbying.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
July 12 2013 21:01 GMT
#44
On July 13 2013 05:35 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:34 Influ wrote:
U.S. government appreciates LoL players more than the esports community. That's wierd. I don't know if it's good or bad but it's wierd.


Real Esports fans shouldn't pigeonhold themselves to a specific game or genre.


There are enough "esports fans" who don't recognise LoL as an an esport. On top of that I think an "esport fan" is just a nerd who wants to be accepted. How can you be a fan of a game you don't play or watch?
It's fine when we are passionate towards a game that we like and appreciate and the pros that play it but to hide behind a bigger mass of "esport fans" just to be accepted one day is laughable.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
July 12 2013 21:01 GMT
#45
Great for eSports. Bad for SC2's future as a more serious game than LoL.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 12 2013 21:02 GMT
#46
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 12 2013 21:04 GMT
#47
Kinda obvious LoL would be the first, seeing as they have the most active parent company and an extremely large viewer base for their tournaments. Now that the hard part is done and the door is open, hopefully other esports organizations (be it parent companies or team associations) can follow suit.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 12 2013 21:04 GMT
#48
On July 13 2013 06:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.

If you mean money as in "their league is actually getting funded properly" then you are right if you mean money as in brides than you are wrong
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
July 12 2013 21:04 GMT
#49
On July 13 2013 06:00 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:55 Tirean wrote:
If E-sports is really going to start getting promoted into the "Professional Athlete" status then I feel in the contracts they should have to be able to pass a physical test.

Promoting a healthy lifestyle should be the job of these as they will be role models.. Being a role model while not looking after yourself isn't very good for the next generation.

Also I wonder how much money Riot spent in achieving this.


I am getting really tired of this. Virtually in any thread about pro-gamers, these people come in a start promoting their "healthy lifestyle", whatever that means.

Is it now compulsary? When you like e-sports, you have to be into physical fitness? Who decided that? Everybody acts like this was something beyond any question, which is absurd.

No he's saying if you are spending 10 hours a day sat in front of a computer practicing, there should be measures to make sure you and your wrists and body in general stay healthy.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 12 2013 21:05 GMT
#50
thats what starcraft need
i think lol had harder times with always 5 visa so its fine
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 12 2013 21:05 GMT
#51
On July 13 2013 05:59 Ettick wrote:
Finally, a sport even 12 year olds can play!

Erm.... 12 year olds play most sports.... they have leagues for most sports in like every town :S
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
July 12 2013 21:05 GMT
#52
On July 13 2013 05:59 Ettick wrote:
Finally, a sport even 12 year olds can play!

SC2 fans are so stupid and clueless on forums. Good thing most of them are cool at LANs.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 12 2013 21:06 GMT
#53
On July 13 2013 06:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.

Or a huge fan of the game in whatever office approves this stuff. That is just as likely as a large amount of money.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 21:08:53
July 12 2013 21:07 GMT
#54
On July 13 2013 06:01 Influ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:35 Klipsys wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:34 Influ wrote:
U.S. government appreciates LoL players more than the esports community. That's wierd. I don't know if it's good or bad but it's wierd.


Real Esports fans shouldn't pigeonhold themselves to a specific game or genre.


There are enough "esports fans" who don't recognise LoL as an an esport. On top of that I think an "esport fan" is just a nerd who wants to be accepted. How can you be a fan of a game you don't play or watch?
It's fine when we are passionate towards a game that we like and appreciate and the pros that play it but to hide behind a bigger mass of "esport fans" just to be accepted one day is laughable.


Wow what a silly argument. Ever heard someone call themselves a 'sports fan'? Of course you have. And a 'sports fan' doesn't need to be into football and basketball and tennis and all the other sports in the world to call themselves a 'sports fan'. The term 'esports fan' does not imply that you like every single competitive video game out there, it just explains in two words that you enjoy the competitive side of video games, be that playing or watching.

Edit: Oops maybe I should talk about the topic instead of just derailing. Yay for this happening, although I do find it somewhat strange that only LoL players count as athletes. Why not all competitive video games? Or at least all mobas? But hey, not complaining, its a step in the right direction.
My wife for hire! - Zealot
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 21:08:56
July 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#55
On July 13 2013 06:04 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 06:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.

If you mean money as in "their league is actually getting funded properly" then you are right if you mean money as in brides than you are wrong


I wouldn't equate lobbying to bribery personally.

On July 13 2013 06:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 06:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.

Or a huge fan of the game in whatever office approves this stuff. That is just as likely as a large amount of money.


Knowing how Riot likes to do things, it's not quite as likely, although you are correct that it's a legitimate possibility that shouldn't be completely overlooked.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
July 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#56
On July 13 2013 05:55 Tirean wrote:
If E-sports is really going to start getting promoted into the "Professional Athlete" status then I feel in the contracts they should have to be able to pass a physical test.

Promoting a healthy lifestyle should be the job of these as they will be role models.. Being a role model while not looking after yourself isn't very good for the next generation.

Also I wonder how much money Riot spent in achieving this.



Are you serious? Do you know US culture at all? We have all sorts of good looking skinny people in our advertising, yet have the highest obesity rate in the world. Healthy life styles in a society are not a result of influence, but a result of the individual wanting to change themselves for the better.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 12 2013 21:09 GMT
#57
On July 13 2013 05:59 Ettick wrote:
Finally, a sport even 12 year olds can play!

Stay classy TL member. Seriously, all my friends play LoL and we are all grown adults. The whole "My game is much deeper than yours, you have no idea" is total non-sense.

What happened to the good old days when we just judged peoples taste in music?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 12 2013 21:10 GMT
#58
On July 13 2013 06:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:59 Ettick wrote:
Finally, a sport even 12 year olds can play!

Stay classy TL member. Seriously, all my friends play LoL and we are all grown adults. The whole "My game is much deeper than yours, you have no idea" is total non-sense.

What happened to the good old days when we just judged peoples taste in music?

People broadened their horizons.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 12 2013 21:10 GMT
#59
On July 13 2013 06:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 06:04 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 06:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.

If you mean money as in "their league is actually getting funded properly" then you are right if you mean money as in brides than you are wrong


I wouldn't equate lobbying to bribery personally.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 06:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 13 2013 06:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:59 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:57 Warri wrote:
On July 13 2013 05:49 SkelA wrote:
Why only lol pro players and not all pro gamers?

cuz money.


Yea I am sure that Riot had so much money that the US Government had no other way than to accept it.
This happened to LoL cause LoL is the only game that has a actual league structure, and one organizer that is pushing this.


Oh, other factors definitely did help, including the massive popularity that the game enjoys worldwide. But don't act like money didn't play any part in it at all, it's just silly.

Or a huge fan of the game in whatever office approves this stuff. That is just as likely as a large amount of money.


Knowing how Riot likes to do things, it's not quite as likely, although you are correct that it's a legitimate possibility that shouldn't be completely overlooked.

Its the same way Redbull got into Esports, they just had a huge fan who loved SC2 and then they snapped up Rob Simpson.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 21:11:48
July 12 2013 21:11 GMT
#60
sc2 players talking shit about lol, its fucking hilarious from bw's perspective.
/facepalm
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