EPTWhat happened to the sc2 compeittive scene? - Page 2
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
I'm only 22 and I agree. So you're not too old....yet. I literally haven't watched a game since HoTS came out. I was super excited but the game has just gotten really stale. Without turning it too much into a how the game should be thread I personally don't like the type of micro and macro compared to BW or other rts games. It's not fun to watch. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
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SoFrOsTy
United States525 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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CSSolutionstv
118 Posts
While there were alot fo big tournaments in 2011, it was a weekend thing you would watch (like UFC), and that you didnt need to follow for a long time as it would finish in 2-3 days. Now you have 3 leagues (WCS NA, WCS EU, WCS KR) running over the course of the week, with an amount of content that you wont be able to watch unless all you do in a day is watch StarCraft. You also get Proleague, running 4-5 days a week. In the end the WCS Tournament is totally uninteresting (IMHO), as the only one you need to watch to know who is going to win it all is the korean WCS (we keep seeing the big faces dominating there in Flash, Soulkey, Innovation and sOs). The local scene that greatly benefited from all the tournaments that went in 2011 is now gone (we saw a lot of non-koreans in top 3 finishes), a feat that is going extinct as koreans get further and further ahead. In the end, while there are some interesting stories of success from foreigners, even if they do happen they have become uninteresting because of the amount of games played over the course of a week. Less is more. The fact that we have more content doesn't make it better content, rather i think it has made it a lot more uninteresting now that we get to see those players compete every single week. | ||
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
Kespa players raised the level of play by a big margin and I know a lot of them. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On June 14 2013 06:00 Zealously wrote: I don't know, I see creative strategies and aggression aplenty, more or less every. Maybe (probably) I watch more SC2 than you and different tournaments, but there's no lack of new stuff. Of course there are boring, defensive and turtly games, but don't try to tell me WC3 and Brood War didn't both have utterly boring games. Well sure there were boring games played, but I also think there were more exciting games played overall compared to sc2 by A LOT. It used to be every major iem or wcg or blizzard tournament or w/e, you got extremely fresh and intense games played out of all the top players. I don't really feel that way with SC2. Could just be old man nostalgia talking (I'm 27 lol). | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I watched Flash vs Fantasy the other day: totally conventional strats, boring gameflow overall, too defensive and stuff, not enough foreigners in the game, not enough storylines, not enough heroes and legends and roshan and tanks, etc, etc.. SC2 is dead. + Show Spoiler + Edit: Lol, over 9000 posts, and I still write shitposts like this one, haha :D User was warned for this post | ||
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Mefano
Sweden190 Posts
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
On June 14 2013 06:00 Zealously wrote: I don't know, I see creative strategies and aggression aplenty, more or less every. Maybe (probably) I watch more SC2 than you and different tournaments, but there's no lack of new stuff. Of course there are boring, defensive and turtly games, but don't try to tell me WC3 and Brood War didn't both have utterly boring games. is it weird that my favorite BW MU to watch was tvt? | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On June 14 2013 06:13 ZenithM wrote: SC2 is dead, man. I watched Flash vs Fantasy the other day: totally conventional strats, boring gameflow overall, too defensive and stuff, not enough foreigners in the game, not enough storylines, not enough heroes and legends and roshan and tanks, etc, etc.. SC2 is dead. + Show Spoiler + Edit: Lol, over 9000 posts, and I still write shitposts like this one, haha :D It's not dead, there are plenty of fans and players still into it....oh wait it's zenith, /sarcasm goggles needed :D | ||
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:33 stratmatt wrote: Is it just me or is sc2 too hard to follow anymore? I understand that the gsl was basically gutted and turned into a standard wcs league type thing. Truth be told, I stopped following gsl during bl/infestor and when they jacked their prices up(and when they stopped fully broadcasting code a). Then kespa swiched to sc2 and I dont even understand how that entire league is structured nor am I familiar with 4/5 players or teams. Then IPL and NASL basically both disbanded as far as sc2 is concerned and what are we left with? 3 regional daily tournaments run by completely different organizations with players not even specific to a region among 1000 other inconsistancies? Not only that, but I browse to this site on 4 diff devices and I am bombarded with dota 2 stuff. What is even happening anymore? I understand there are 'filters' but I dont feel like filtering every single time I surf here. And even after I filter, I have no idea what the important upcoming matches are and WHEN they are going to happen unless I already know what I am searching for. There is litterally not the sightest bit of hype in this scene anymore outside of whoever the top 2 'best players' are ATM and I dont even know what I should be following. Anyone else feel similar? I see people complaining about the lack of tournaments this year and I feel the same way. This site used to go balls to the wall content-wise for every mlg / dreamhack / gsl tourny and now it seems like these events either dont exist or dont even get more than a LR thread. What happened? I dont think sc2 is dieing, but I definately feel like the community itself is sort of falling apart. I just dont feel like the scene is very newbie-friendly anymore. If someonee wanted to get into competitive sc2, I feel like they woulnt even know where to start. I dont understand the lack of tournaments complaint... WCS NA finals. WCS World Finals. Dreamhack this weekend. Homestory next weekend. MLG anaheim next weekend. WCS season 2 qualifiers after that. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:36 Torte de Lini wrote: I think you have some legitimate concerns, but I also feel you're overextending in your complaints. http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en This is important pretty much resolves some of issues. The structure and play is definitely difficult to keep track and I feel it could use more linearity. World Tour Circuit my brother! | ||
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HerrHorst
Germany140 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
Nowadays its mostly a football/basketball type structure with that wcs thingy going on.I personally like the tournament structure way more as it promotes individual hype and starpower.Also it is a lot easier to follow since in regular sports most individual sports such as tennins or even boxing and mma have individual big tourneys and not year long leagues.The way i see starcraft is staying at home on a friday/saturdya night and watching the best players in the world duke it out in an elimination tournament.But in the end I guess it is just a preference type thingy.I enjoyed the old ppv mlgs and old style dreamhacks and ironsquids.They sort of had their own personality. Also the the way blizzard butchered the proscene by having premier/not wcs events is discusting.Throwing dreamhack and nasl probably some of the most beloved tourneys out there was a very poor decisison.I used to rememeber watching nasl more than mlg simply because of ammount of fun and personality everyone was having in the studio.Anyway its blizard decsion. The way I see it they could have had just an administrative role like giving each tournament some points based on the ammount of prizepool and have the top 20 players with the most points duke it out in the global finals at the end of the year.I really do not think that a yearlong league solves anything.And the viewership sort of confirms it. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On June 14 2013 06:19 Bonkarooni wrote: I dont understand the lack of tournaments complaint... WCS NA finals. WCS World Finals. Dreamhack this weekend. Homestory next weekend. MLG anaheim next weekend. WCS season 2 qualifiers after that. I think he is referring to the fact that tournaments arent hyped like before.I personally have not seen any dreamhack ads on this website and it is considered the premier sc website.The tournaments might be physically present but if casual fans do not know about them...  | ||
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