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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On May 28 2013 08:10 Nachtwind wrote: you see, he don´t know we have now diamond, master, grand master SO OLDSCOOL or this is a tricky disguise I'm so old school I don't even know Stalkers exist Or Zealots (lol ETisME your mood emoticon made me yawn) | ||
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ETisME
12627 Posts
Guess you could just take away all those useless info and try asking again and maybe some would help you | ||
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BrosephMG
United States18 Posts
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furerkip
United States439 Posts
"Oh yeah, you forgot to not scout at this point" "Oh, looks like you forgot to make marines when that's all you can make anyways" "Hrmm, oh I see, you forgot to attack move here" Like seriously lol, wtf did you want us to say? | ||
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BrosephMG
United States18 Posts
On May 28 2013 08:17 furerkip wrote: Lol what the fuck, you want us to teach you to do the thing you've done for like 100 games... better? It's not even something that requires learning what the other races do, you just do the same shit without scouting every game anyways. Not like someone can help you with that; think about it: "Oh yeah, you forgot to not scout at this point" "Oh, looks like you forgot to make marines when that's all you can make anyways" "Hrmm, oh I see, you forgot to attack move here" Like seriously lol, wtf did you want us to say? You srs bro? There's a huge difference between a -good- cheese player and a garbage one, and I already gave examples of the type of suggestions I could use (when to move out, specific build order, how many SCVs to pull, when/if to scout...). If you're trying to be unhelpful, mission accomplished. | ||
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rikter
United States352 Posts
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
target: 6rax, 16 marines ; fastes possible build completition likelihood >90% Waypoint 1 satisfied: 5:19,97: 293M 0G 33/ 35S Income: 852M 0G Buildings: 1 Supply Depot 1 Extra Supply Depot 6 Barracks 1 Orbital Command Units: 17 SCV 16 Marine build order short + Show Spoiler + 6 4 * Build SCV 10 Build Supply Depot 10 2 * Build SCV 12 Build Barracks 12 3 * Build SCV 15 Build Barracks 15 Build Marine From Naked Barracks 16 Build Orbital Command 16 Build Barracks 16 Build Marine From Naked Barracks 17 Build Supply Depot 17 Calldown: MULE 17 Build Barracks 17 2 * Build Marine From Naked Barracks 19 Build Barracks 19 3 * Build Marine From Naked Barracks 22 Build Barracks 22 4 * Build Marine From Naked Barracks 26 Build SCV 27 Calldown: Extra Supplies 27 5 * Build Marine From Naked Barracks 32 Build SCV build order long + Show Spoiler + 0:02,00: 50M 0G 6/ 11S - Build SCV 0:19,00: 73M 0G 7/ 11S - (SCV completed) 0:19,00: 73M 0G 7/ 11S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 0:19,00: 73M 0G 7/ 11S - Build SCV 0:21,00: 32M 0G 8/ 11S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 0:36,00: 106M 0G 8/ 11S - (SCV completed) 0:36,00: 106M 0G 8/ 11S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 0:36,00: 106M 0G 8/ 11S - Build SCV 0:38,00: 66M 0G 9/ 11S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 0:53,00: 150M 0G 9/ 11S - (SCV completed) 0:53,00: 150M 0G 9/ 11S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 0:53,00: 150M 0G 9/ 11S - Build SCV 0:53,03: 100M 0G 10/ 11S - Build Supply Depot 0:55,00: 8M 0G 10/ 11S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 0:58,03: 23M 0G 10/ 11S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 1:10,00: 91M 0G 10/ 11S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 1:10,00: 91M 0G 10/ 11S - (SCV completed) 1:10,00: 91M 0G 10/ 11S - Build SCV 1:12,00: 52M 0G 11/ 11S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 1:23,03: 122M 0G 11/ 11S - (Supply Depot completed) 1:27,00: 147M 0G 11/ 19S - (SCV completed) 1:27,00: 147M 0G 11/ 19S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 1:27,00: 147M 0G 11/ 19S - Build SCV 1:28,03: 103M 0G 12/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 1:29,00: 110M 0G 12/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 1:34,04: 150M 0G 12/ 19S - Build Barracks 1:39,04: 32M 0G 12/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 1:44,00: 67M 0G 12/ 19S - (SCV completed) 1:44,00: 67M 0G 12/ 19S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 1:44,00: 67M 0G 12/ 19S - Build SCV 1:46,00: 31M 0G 13/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 2:01,00: 149M 0G 13/ 19S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 2:01,00: 149M 0G 13/ 19S - (SCV completed) 2:01,00: 149M 0G 13/ 19S - Build SCV 2:03,00: 115M 0G 14/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 2:18,00: 244M 0G 14/ 19S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 2:18,00: 244M 0G 14/ 19S - (SCV completed) 2:18,00: 244M 0G 14/ 19S - Build SCV 2:18,00: 194M 0G 15/ 19S - Build Barracks 2:20,00: 58M 0G 15/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 2:23,00: 81M 0G 15/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 2:35,00: 185M 0G 15/ 19S - (SCV completed) 2:35,00: 185M 0G 15/ 19S - (Command Center: Busy lapsed) 2:37,00: 202M 0G 15/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 2:39,04: 221M 0G 15/ 19S - (Barracks completed) 2:39,04: 221M 0G 15/ 19S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 2:39,04: 171M 0G 16/ 19S - Build Orbital Command 2:44,04: 67M 0G 16/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 2:52,44: 150M 0G 16/ 19S - Build Barracks 2:57,44: 43M 0G 16/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 3:04,04: 104M 0G 16/ 19S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 3:04,04: 104M 0G 16/ 19S - (Marine completed) 3:04,04: 104M 0G 16/ 19S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 3:09,01: 100M 0G 17/ 19S - Build Supply Depot 3:14,01: 39M 0G 17/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 3:14,04: 40M 0G 17/ 19S - (Orbital Command completed) 3:14,04: 40M 0G 17/ 19S - Calldown: MULE 3:19,04: 83M 0G 17/ 19S - (MULE completed) 3:23,00: 128M 0G 17/ 19S - (Barracks completed) 3:24,86: 150M 0G 17/ 19S - Build Barracks 3:28,00: 32M 0G 17/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 3:29,04: 43M 0G 17/ 19S - (Marine completed) 3:29,04: 43M 0G 17/ 19S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 3:29,68: 50M 0G 17/ 19S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 3:29,86: 2M 0G 18/ 19S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 3:34,00: 50M 0G 18/ 19S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 3:39,01: 58M 0G 19/ 19S - (Supply Depot completed) 3:44,01: 116M 0G 19/ 27S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 3:46,78: 150M 0G 19/ 27S - Build Barracks 3:51,78: 54M 0G 19/ 27S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 3:54,68: 88M 0G 19/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 3:54,68: 88M 0G 19/ 27S - (Marine completed) 3:54,68: 88M 0G 19/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 3:57,44: 70M 0G 20/ 27S - (Barracks completed) 3:57,44: 70M 0G 20/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 3:59,00: 38M 0G 21/ 27S - (Marine completed) 3:59,00: 38M 0G 21/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:00,03: 50M 0G 21/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:02,44: 28M 0G 22/ 27S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 4:12,41: 150M 0G 22/ 27S - Build Barracks 4:17,41: 54M 0G 22/ 27S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 4:19,68: 81M 0G 22/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:19,68: 81M 0G 22/ 27S - (Marine completed) 4:19,68: 81M 0G 22/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:22,44: 63M 0G 23/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:22,44: 63M 0G 23/ 27S - (Marine completed) 4:22,44: 63M 0G 23/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:25,03: 43M 0G 24/ 27S - (Marine completed) 4:25,03: 43M 0G 24/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:25,66: 50M 0G 24/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:29,86: 49M 0G 25/ 27S - (Barracks completed) 4:29,97: 50M 0G 25/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:34,28: 50M 0G 26/ 27S - Build SCV 4:34,86: 7M 0G 27/ 27S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 4:42,93: 106M 0G 27/ 27S - Calldown: Extra Supplies 4:44,68: 127M 0G 27/ 27S - (Marine completed) 4:44,68: 127M 0G 27/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:47,44: 161M 0G 27/ 27S - (Marine completed) 4:47,44: 161M 0G 27/ 27S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:47,93: 167M 0G 27/ 27S - (Extra Supply Depot completed) 4:47,93: 167M 0G 27/ 35S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:47,93: 117M 0G 28/ 35S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:49,04: 80M 0G 29/ 35S - (MULE expired) 4:50,66: 100M 0G 29/ 35S - (Marine completed) 4:50,66: 100M 0G 29/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:50,66: 100M 0G 29/ 35S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:51,28: 58M 0G 30/ 35S - (SCV completed) 4:51,28: 58M 0G 30/ 35S - (Orbital Command: Busy lapsed) 4:51,78: 64M 0G 30/ 35S - (Barracks completed) 4:51,78: 64M 0G 30/ 35S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:53,28: 32M 0G 31/ 35S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 4:54,97: 54M 0G 31/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 4:54,97: 54M 0G 31/ 35S - (Marine completed) 4:54,97: 54M 0G 31/ 35S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks 4:56,78: 28M 0G 32/ 35S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 4:58,44: 50M 0G 32/ 35S - Build SCV 5:12,93: 196M 0G 33/ 35S - (Marine completed) 5:12,93: 196M 0G 33/ 35S - (Marine completed) 5:12,93: 196M 0G 33/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 5:12,93: 196M 0G 33/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 5:15,44: 230M 0G 33/ 35S - (SCV completed) 5:15,44: 230M 0G 33/ 35S - (Orbital Command: Busy lapsed) 5:15,66: 233M 0G 33/ 35S - (Marine completed) 5:15,66: 233M 0G 33/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 5:16,78: 249M 0G 33/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 5:16,78: 249M 0G 33/ 35S - (Marine completed) 5:17,41: 257M 0G 33/ 35S - (Barracks completed) 5:17,44: 257M 0G 33/ 35S - (Worker starts mining minerals) 5:19,97: 293M 0G 33/ 35S - (Barracks: Busy lapsed) 5:19,97: 293M 0G 33/ 35S - (Marine completed) the rest is hide tech, deny scouting, scout with 1 scv at normal timing (looking for enemy allin), only show 1-2 marines at ramp, learn to marine micro, moveout is 5:30 latest 6 | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On May 28 2013 08:22 BrosephMG wrote: You srs bro? There's a huge difference between a -good- cheese player and a garbage one, and I already gave examples of the type of suggestions I could use (when to move out, specific build order, how many SCVs to pull, when/if to scout...). If you're trying to be unhelpful, mission accomplished. figure it out yourself dude, it doesnt take much effort to find out how many scvs you have to have mining to support 6 barracks of production. One scv brings in 40 minerals a minute, a marine takes 25 seconds to build so a barracks needs 120 minerals a minute, times 6 is 720, divided by 40 is 18. factor in mules, which bring in about 160 minerals per minute, and you would need about 14 scvs. not sure what else you need to know about this cheese build. good riddance to you. | ||
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BrosephMG
United States18 Posts
On May 28 2013 08:41 Aveng3r wrote: figure it out yourself dude, it doesnt take much effort to find out how many scvs you have to have mining to support 6 barracks of production. One scv brings in 40 minerals a minute, a marine takes 25 seconds to build so a barracks needs 120 minerals a minute, times 6 is 720, divided by 40 is 18. factor in mules, which bring in about 160 minerals per minute, and you would need about 14 scvs. not sure what else you need to know about this cheese build. good riddance to you. Why you heff be mad? Is only game. P.S. You want to take into account supply depots? | ||
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alpenrahm
Germany629 Posts
you might also be interested in learning a proper 11 11 bunker all in. alternatively you could proxy some of your barracks or get combatshields to beef up your marines. | ||
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Rinny
United States616 Posts
10 depot 12 rax Build you Orbital command when rax is done second supply depot. build 1 marine, produce scvs until you have money to throw down 4 more raxes. constant mule drop make depot when you need to. make marines off 5 rax, when you have extra money take a gas. send big pack of marines start round of reapers add on to the raxes then go for a stim tyming. If you are going to do a 6 rax i think you should bring all your scvs and just rely on mule for bunkers. You are all in anyway, how are you going to transition out of it? | ||
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Xahhk
Canada540 Posts
On May 28 2013 07:18 Poffel wrote: That's a strange thing to say considering your posts from over a year ago, such as: Body slam. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On May 28 2013 08:55 BrosephMG wrote: Why you heff be mad? Is only game. P.S. You want to take into account supply depots? why you heff be dumb? is only common sense | ||
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scph
Korea (South)262 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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