EPTDo U.S. states have their own culture or identity? - Page 10
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czylu
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Scootaloo
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The differences between American states do as far as I'm concerned qualify as different cultures (or at least different branches of a culture) but only barely so, and television is slowly trying to homogenize it all, so I'm not too sure if there will be more then a couple cultures in the US in a couple generations. | ||
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
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Zhou
United States832 Posts
I like to think of the States as a collection of smaller 'countries' with a little bit of unity between them via patriotism and government. But we all definitely have our differences good and bad. That's why people enjoy taking road trips across the US in the first place! The best part of it all is usually food if you look in the right places. | ||
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Scootaloo
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cul·ture (klchr) n. 1. a. The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought. b. These patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population: Edwardian culture; Japanese culture; the culture of poverty. c. These patterns, traits, and products considered with respect to a particular category, such as a field, subject, or mode of expression: religious culture in the Middle Ages; musical culture; oral culture. d. The predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize the functioning of a group or organization. 2. Intellectual and artistic activity and the works produced by it. ... /thread I guess. That being said, the US has an extremely young culture compared to most of the world, and therefore they are much more homogenous then for instance middle eastern, south-east asian or european cultures, I believe this was more the point the OP's discussion partner was aiming towards. | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
But at least I know that my crude understanding of these places stems from a lack of familiarity, rather than some internet-informed, cosmopolitan savior faire. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
On May 05 2013 01:23 HULKAMANIA wrote: Any who doubts the massive cultural variation that takes place across the US just needs to road trip. You're talking out of your ass. I mean in my mind, every German in the world is a serious businessperson who lives on a diet of sauerkraut, and every Chinese person eats nothing but rice all day and works as a farmer. But at least I know that my crude understanding of these places stems from a lack of familiarity, rather than some internet-informed, cosmopolitan savior faire. Hmmmm, yeah, in my country, that's smaller then any American state, we have multiple indigenous languages, for post indian holocaust Americans the best you can say is that they have varying indigenous accents, stuff like that tends to happen when culture's have gotten more then about 200 years to develop, and great parts of American culture are shared with the entire country, the mass consumerist attitude, the homogenous suburbs, if you you think an accent, some eating habits and some climate adaption constitute a change in culture even close to that between european countries or chinese provinces, you clearly have a lot of learning to do. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On May 05 2013 03:24 Scootaloo wrote: Hmmmm, yeah, in my country, that's smaller then any American state, we have multiple indigenous languages, for post indian holocaust Americans the best you can say is that they have varying indigenous accents, stuff like that tends to happen when culture's have gotten more then about 200 years to develop, and great parts of American culture are shared with the entire country, the mass consumerist attitude, the homogenous suburbs, if you you think an accent, some eating habits and some climate adaption constitute a change in culture even close to that between european countries or chinese provinces, you clearly have a lot of learning to do. I think you're the one who has some learning to do... about America. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 04 2013 01:46 ZenithM wrote: What is certain is that you guys can't cook to save your life. + Show Spoiler + Huehuehuehue, j/k :D Thats why its great because if your in a decent size city you will find decent restaurants representing a pretty wide variety of food from all over the world that is authentic. We pretty much imported the vast majority of our food culture heh. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
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farvacola
United States18831 Posts
On May 05 2013 03:47 Scootaloo wrote: Ofcourse, one liners and irrelevant critiques of grammar, how very... American of you. Well, considering that it is oh so easy for you to point at our nationality and both attribute pedantic criticisms to it while in the same breath making cursory judgements as to the depth of our culture, I think it's easy to see that you are nothing more than a hater. | ||
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SCWind
United States33 Posts
On May 05 2013 03:47 Scootaloo wrote: Ofcourse, one liners and irrelevant critiques of grammar, how very... American of you. Smug one liner stereotyping americans, you're just as bad it seems. Also, I'd be interested to hear from anyone who actually is well-traveled enough to give an accurate view of the amount to which American culture varies internally. Anyone who's only lived in the US, and even if they can pinpoint the differences between different regions of the US, isn't of much use without some kind of international metric to compare it to. The same goes for people who haven't lived in the US and believe that the US is just northerners vs southereners. Otherwise it seems like just a bunch of hot air being spouted. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
On May 05 2013 03:54 farvacola wrote: Well, considering that it is oh so easy for you to point at our nationality and both attribute pedantic criticisms to it while in the same breath making cursory judgements as to the depth of our culture, I think it's easy to see that you are nothing more than a hater. Not a hater at all actually, I enjoy an awful lot of your media, but when we're talking about culture's you'd have to be blind not to see the obvious problems here, for gods sake, many people still care more about their pre american cultures, be it Irish, Italian, African, Mexican or whatever then their American, let alone their states culture. American has a lot of great things, but original culture is not one of them, if you think that makes me a hater, then clearly you're just talking out of some outdated sense of patriotism, not any kind of historical perspective. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
On May 05 2013 03:56 SCWind wrote: Smug one liner stereotyping americans, you're just as bad it seems. Also, I'd be interested to hear from anyone who actually is well-traveled enough to give an accurate view of the amount to which American culture varies internally. Anyone who's only lived in the US, and even if they can pinpoint the differences between different regions of the US, isn't of much use without some kind of international metric to compare it to. The same goes for people who haven't lived in the US and believe that the US is just northerners vs southereners. Otherwise it seems like just a bunch of hot air being spouted. I would even argue that a northerner is more similar to a southerner then a Parisian is to a Nicean, a Basque to a Cordoban or a Frysian to a Limburger, you think a civil war is a reason for dividing? How about an entirely different language, tons of wars, completely different heritage and an already clearly distinguished culture? | ||
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farvacola
United States18831 Posts
On May 05 2013 04:03 Scootaloo wrote: Not a hater at all actually, I enjoy an awful lot of your media, but when we're talking about culture's you'd have to be blind not to see the obvious problems here, for gods sake, many people still care more about their pre american cultures, be it Irish, Italian, African, Mexican or whatever then their American, let alone their states culture. American has a lot of great things, but original culture is not one of them, if you think that makes me a hater, then clearly you're just talking out of some outdated sense of patriotism, not any kind of historical perspective. Again, you clearly have no experience with actual Americans nor with the inherent problems in putting too much weight on ones' own anecdotal perspective when it comes to making judgements as expansive as those of an entire nation or culture. In fact, the notion of an "original culture" is something straight out of a fascist ideology; in order for one to even begin the process of judging such a thing, they must assign a value to a particular mode and operation of cultural expression with which to compare others. This superimposes a hierarchy of values overtop a phenomena that is distinctly without an objective value, and this amounts to cultural-political violence as one argues for their idea of culture in the face of others which may disagree with it. It's clear you have no respect for American culture, but I'm afraid that such a judgement is more entrenched in discomfort and disregard rather than anything truly objective. | ||
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SCWind
United States33 Posts
On May 05 2013 04:08 Scootaloo wrote: I would even argue that a northerner is more similar to a southerner then a Parisian is to a Nicean, a Basque to a Cordoban or a Frysian to a Limburger, you think a civil war is a reason for dividing? How about an entirely different language, tons of wars, completely different heritage and an already clearly distinguished culture? I brought up south vs north because it's a very simplistic view of the regional differences in America, so please don't elaborate on it. Anyways, my point was do you have enough experience in the states to make these comparisons? I don't and I have no problems admitting it, which is why I'm not trying to argue anything in this thread. I'm just curious as to the scope of experience of the people in this thread. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On May 05 2013 04:08 Scootaloo wrote: I would even argue that a northerner is more similar to a southerner then a Parisian is to a Nicean, a Basque to a Cordoban or a Frysian to a Limburger, you think a civil war is a reason for dividing? How about an entirely different language, tons of wars, completely different heritage and an already clearly distinguished culture? I am curious, what is your experience with all of these different cultures? How long did you spend in each of the areas? You are speaking as an expert, so I hope you at least have some experience to back it up? | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
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