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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 11 2018 22:22 GMT
#193321
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 11 2018 22:24 GMT
#193322
On January 12 2018 07:22 Mohdoo wrote:
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.


This deal is pretty much a dems wet dream. Art of the fucking deal stuff here folks
Something witty
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 11 2018 22:29 GMT
#193323
On January 12 2018 07:24 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:22 Mohdoo wrote:
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.


This deal is pretty much a dems wet dream. Art of the fucking deal stuff here folks


I can't imagine Trump signing this, so it feels like a kinda empty deal. This bends Trump over a table and doesn't hold back.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 11 2018 22:32 GMT
#193324
On January 12 2018 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:24 IyMoon wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:22 Mohdoo wrote:
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.


This deal is pretty much a dems wet dream. Art of the fucking deal stuff here folks


I can't imagine Trump signing this, so it feels like a kinda empty deal. This bends Trump over a table and doesn't hold back.


it also wont pass with 60 votes so its kinda dead anyway
Something witty
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 22:34:15
January 11 2018 22:33 GMT
#193325
The problem the Republicans are having is that Trump deporting people and ending programs that immigration hawks hate. The Republicans just wanted to rail against those programs, but no do anything because deporting the 2 million people Trump is slated to deport is super not popular. They didn't want to deport people. They just wanted to talk about deporting people to get elected.

On January 12 2018 07:32 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:24 IyMoon wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:22 Mohdoo wrote:
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.


This deal is pretty much a dems wet dream. Art of the fucking deal stuff here folks


I can't imagine Trump signing this, so it feels like a kinda empty deal. This bends Trump over a table and doesn't hold back.


it also wont pass with 60 votes so its kinda dead anyway

Then the government shuts down on 1/19/2018.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 11 2018 22:42 GMT
#193326
On January 12 2018 07:33 Plansix wrote:
The problem the Republicans are having is that Trump deporting people and ending programs that immigration hawks hate. The Republicans just wanted to rail against those programs, but no do anything because deporting the 2 million people Trump is slated to deport is super not popular. They didn't want to deport people. They just wanted to talk about deporting people to get elected.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:32 IyMoon wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:24 IyMoon wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:22 Mohdoo wrote:
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.


This deal is pretty much a dems wet dream. Art of the fucking deal stuff here folks


I can't imagine Trump signing this, so it feels like a kinda empty deal. This bends Trump over a table and doesn't hold back.


it also wont pass with 60 votes so its kinda dead anyway

Then the government shuts down on 1/19/2018.


"If elected, I pledge to make brown people feel unwelcome and uncomfortable"

*crowd goes nuts*
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 22:47:27
January 11 2018 22:45 GMT
#193327
On January 12 2018 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:24 IyMoon wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:22 Mohdoo wrote:
So this deal is basically citizenship for dreamers, immunity for their parents, all for the price of 2.6B for some shitty wall that won't get completed and will only reflect on Trump's ineffectiveness? Sign me up.


This deal is pretty much a dems wet dream. Art of the fucking deal stuff here folks


I can't imagine Trump signing this, so it feels like a kinda empty deal. This bends Trump over a table and doesn't hold back.

idk man. To me it seems like the kind of thing he would sign if it comes to that for multiple reasons:

a) he doesn't understand it so chances are he isn't aware
b) the man is all about bragging about the most irrelevant or even bad things. Remember the brag on no coaldeaths (iirc?) a couple weeks ago? I am sure in his mind, even if he knows he shouldn't sign it, he will say to himself that he'll just sign it and make it look amazing to the public with his inner fraudster-self

So yeah, I really do expect him to sign it if he gets to it, just to have the chance to talk about how he just signed an amazing deal no matter how shitty it actually is. With all the hate on him for not being able to pass anything outside of the taxereform I'd assume he really values that act of signing ANYTHING quite highly
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2018 22:59 GMT
#193328
Someone finally said it.



We are the shithole country.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14035 Posts
January 11 2018 23:05 GMT
#193329
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.

Cue "so if you hate america so much why don't you leave it".
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 11 2018 23:12 GMT
#193330
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.


oh give me a break. we are not a shit hole country. You can think there are things wrong without going into 18 year old edgelord mode.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7371 Posts
January 11 2018 23:13 GMT
#193331
On January 12 2018 08:05 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.

Cue "so if you hate america so much why don't you leave it".


It's expensive to uproot and leave. I'd be in Canada already if I had the option.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 11 2018 23:13 GMT
#193332
On January 12 2018 08:13 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 08:05 Sermokala wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.

Cue "so if you hate america so much why don't you leave it".


It's expensive to uproot and leave. I'd be in Canada already if I had the option.


I heard don jr would pay for you to move
Something witty
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 11 2018 23:15 GMT
#193333
On January 12 2018 08:13 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 08:05 Sermokala wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.

Cue "so if you hate america so much why don't you leave it".


It's expensive to uproot and leave. I'd be in Canada already if I had the option.


marry me and you've got an easy time getting there
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
January 11 2018 23:20 GMT
#193334
On January 12 2018 08:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.


oh give me a break. we are not a shit hole country. You can think there are things wrong without going into 18 year old edgelord mode.

Speaking broadly about one of the most inter-differentiated countries in the world is a bad idea generally, but there are definitely plenty of US residents who would be justified in thinking this place a shithole.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 11 2018 23:21 GMT
#193335
On January 12 2018 08:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.


oh give me a break. we are not a shit hole country. You can think there are things wrong without going into 18 year old edgelord mode.

He already hints at the underhanded pitch. He tries to restrict the response to "developed world," he talks about $30k like it's below the world average, and any infrastructure grade that puts the US at D+ is talking rich & developed countries. He's wrong on the basic level of the playing field, before even getting to the particular claims.

...but claiming the US is a shithole country is exactly the overreaction that I'm growing accustomed to. The GOP needs all the help it can get in 2018/2020, so please continue, guys.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12302 Posts
January 11 2018 23:30 GMT
#193336
On January 12 2018 08:21 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 08:12 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.


oh give me a break. we are not a shit hole country. You can think there are things wrong without going into 18 year old edgelord mode.

...but claiming the US is a shithole country is exactly the overreaction that I'm growing accustomed to. The GOP needs all the help it can get in 2018/2020, so please continue, guys.


Hey, I'd like to come back to our discussion where I argue that you telling dems to be more centrist because that will help them is part of your strategy to weaken the dems because you believe centrism makes them weaker, are you interested in getting back to that conversation?
No will to live, no wish to die
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 23:33:42
January 11 2018 23:32 GMT
#193337
On January 12 2018 08:21 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 08:12 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.


oh give me a break. we are not a shit hole country. You can think there are things wrong without going into 18 year old edgelord mode.

He already hints at the underhanded pitch. He tries to restrict the response to "developed world," he talks about $30k like it's below the world average, and any infrastructure grade that puts the US at D+ is talking rich & developed countries. He's wrong on the basic level of the playing field, before even getting to the particular claims.

...but claiming the US is a shithole country is exactly the overreaction that I'm growing accustomed to. The GOP needs all the help it can get in 2018/2020, so please continue, guys.


This is literally the message Trump ran on. Please explain to me why Trump calling the United States the laughing stock of the world and basically painting it as a destroyed country is a-okay but people talking about infrastructure or health issues (in angry tone or not) is somehow demeaning
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2018 23:33 GMT
#193338
Alright then...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21914 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 23:37:49
January 11 2018 23:37 GMT
#193339
On January 12 2018 08:21 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 08:12 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 12 2018 07:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Someone finally said it.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/951587982129221632

We are the shithole country.


oh give me a break. we are not a shit hole country. You can think there are things wrong without going into 18 year old edgelord mode.

He already hints at the underhanded pitch. He tries to restrict the response to "developed world," he talks about $30k like it's below the world average, and any infrastructure grade that puts the US at D+ is talking rich & developed countries. He's wrong on the basic level of the playing field, before even getting to the particular claims.

...but claiming the US is a shithole country is exactly the overreaction that I'm growing accustomed to. The GOP needs all the help it can get in 2018/2020, so please continue, guys.

MAGA
its in the name

Again, implying it once was and is not anymore.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 12 2018 00:15 GMT
#193340
The left isn’t allowed to tap the vein. It might lead to lead some people thinking folks saying government is the problem are the real ones screwing over this country.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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