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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23426 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 20:29:46
January 11 2018 20:29 GMT
#193301
On January 12 2018 04:52 Danglars wrote:



Democrats suck so bad...

At least Trump hasn't done or said anything that would indicate he might use such powers irresponsibly
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 11 2018 20:39 GMT
#193302
On January 12 2018 04:59 Plansix wrote:
Yet more evidence that gerrymandering is an issue that transcends party lines and is a threat to democracy. If Republicans are upset that the Democrats are doing it too, I welcome them to join the Democrats trying to end the practice and have independent third parties draw districts.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 04:58 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Ask him to link how many D vs how many R districts are gerrymandered. Cherry pick more.


He just proves the point that it is a problem that needs to be addressed. If Republicans had half a brain, they would jump on it before 2020. If they get dumpstered in that election, they get to deal with gerrymandering by Democrats for 10 years.

2020 is a big election made bigger for that reason.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 11 2018 20:42 GMT
#193303
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 11 2018 20:51 GMT
#193304
On January 11 2018 22:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

That female reporter at the end, 'that's not how this works, this is the Netherlands, you have to answer questions'. That hurts lol. I wish our media had the same teeth when dealing with blatant lies.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
January 11 2018 20:54 GMT
#193305
They're just being disrespectful of American culture.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4850 Posts
January 11 2018 20:54 GMT
#193306
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.



+ Show Spoiler +

"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 11 2018 20:57 GMT
#193307
Love it. Republicans finally being brought to the table and forced to address the issue. Rather than kick the can down the road so they can run on deporting all the brown people in their next election.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
January 11 2018 21:01 GMT
#193308
On January 12 2018 05:29 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 04:52 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/raul_labrador/status/951539309391294465


Democrats suck so bad...

At least Trump hasn't done or said anything that would indicate he might use such powers irresponsibly

The IC has always had a very clear message for lawmakers: Section 702 of FISA is the single greatest tool at their disposal to stop terrorism and foreign espionage.

The vote on 702 was very much not a party line vote. One of the few things in Congress today that doesn't depend almost entirely on party affiliation.

You have Republicans like Rep. Justin Amash, Rep. Devin Nunes, and Sen. Rand Paul on the same side as Democrats like Ron Wyden. On the other side are Republicans like John McCain and Richard Burr, along with Democrats like Mark Warner and Dianne Feinstein.

It's really as far away from a R vs D split as you can get in modern Congress. I mean, compare the vote today on 702 to something like all the healthcare votes or tax reform.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 21:08:35
January 11 2018 21:07 GMT
#193309
On January 12 2018 05:54 Introvert wrote:
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.

https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/951543150304223232

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/951551387078344704


Huh, damn. 49 Dems plus the 3 Republicans on board.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
January 11 2018 21:08 GMT
#193310
didn't Trump just say a few days ago that he's not going to blockade and sign a bipartisan agreement? That is going to go over well with his base lol
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 21:26:36
January 11 2018 21:20 GMT
#193311
On January 12 2018 06:08 Nyxisto wrote:
didn't Trump just say a few days ago that he's not going to blockade and sign a bipartisan agreement? That is going to go over well with his base lol


He will just change his mind and not sign it.

Does anyone here really think trump is a man of his word?

Edit *

He also said at the press conference with the Norwegian (PM?) that he would not sign anything without a wall
Something witty
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 11 2018 21:35 GMT
#193312
On January 12 2018 05:54 Introvert wrote:
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.

https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/951543150304223232

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/951551387078344704

Lol. Expected. And Trump is either 110% behind the biggest border wall deal ever made, or its one of the worst deals ever (or praises for legislative DACA and ignores the rest).
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 11 2018 21:42 GMT
#193313
I 100% expect him to claim that fence funding is the wall.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 11 2018 21:43 GMT
#193314
On January 12 2018 05:54 Introvert wrote:
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.

https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/951543150304223232

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/951551387078344704


Did you catch it on TV when Trump was helping to negotiate this?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2018 21:48 GMT
#193315
If the feds bust any local pot shops, they’ll be on their own — state police and Boston cops won’t assist in any crackdown on businesses that are legal under state law, local authorities said.

Public Safety Secretary Daniel Bennett, who oversees the state police, told the Herald yesterday, “We have a state law that we’re intending to enforce, and the state law was voted on by the people of Massachusetts. We have no intention of raiding a pot shop that is legal under state law.”

Boston police spokesman Detective Lt. Michael McCarthy told the Herald in a statement last night: “Similar to our position on immigration, the BPD will not actively enforce federal marijuana laws at the local level. We will continue to enforce local drug laws to keep our neighborhoods safe.”

Earlier this week, Massachusetts-based U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling said in a statement he could not guarantee the medical marijuana dispensaries, recreational pot shops, cultivators and customers would be immune from federal prosecution. This comes after Attorney General Jeff Sessions rescinded an Obama-era memo that shielded businesses in states that had legalized marijuana.

Unlike Colorado’s U.S. attorney, who explicitly said there would be no change in enforcement in the state, Lelling’s statement has stoked fears and increased uncertainty over the possibility of a federal crackdown on Bay State pot shops.

“I cannot ... provide assurances that certain categories of participants in the state-level marijuana trade will be immune from federal prosecution,” Lelling said on Monday.

The U.S. attorney’s office declined to respond to Bennett’s remarks yesterday.

State officials, including the Cannabis Control Commission, have said they plan on moving forward with developing regulations for recreational use ahead of a July deadline.

Walpole police Chief John Carmichael, who is on the state’s Cannabis Advisory board, said Lelling’s statement could indicate a crackdown is coming.

“When you say that no certain entity is getting immunity, that’s saying not only is home cultivation and cultivation on public lands is a violation, but cultivation on a cultivation site or a dispensary is a violation,” Carmichael said.

State and local police, Carmichael said, have their hands tied, and are bound to enforce Massachusetts laws. If there is a crackdown, he said departments like his that have officers assigned to regional and federal drug task forces could be caught in a conflict between state and federal law.

“This is definitely one of the barriers,” Carmichael said.

Also yesterday, Bennett said the exit of a major debit card payment processor from the Massachusetts medical marijuana industry could set up a safety risk for dispensaries that are now forced to only accept cash.

“Whenever there’s a cash industry that involves drugs, you’re always going to have a concern about that,” he said.

Several dispensaries wrote on social media this week they would only accept cash from patients.

“Each individual dispensary will have to take the necessary steps to ensure their patients are being served in a secure setting,” said David Torrisi, executive director of the Commonwealth Dispensary Association. “It’s primarily an inconvenience, but the security issue is real.”


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21914 Posts
January 11 2018 21:53 GMT
#193316
On January 12 2018 06:43 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 05:54 Introvert wrote:
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.

https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/951543150304223232

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/951551387078344704


Did you catch it on TV when Trump was helping to negotiate this?

Link? That seems like it would make for a good comedy.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
January 11 2018 21:59 GMT
#193317
On January 12 2018 06:43 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 05:54 Introvert wrote:
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.

https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/951543150304223232

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/951551387078344704


Did you catch it on TV when Trump was helping to negotiate this?


Can you clue in us foreigners? How did it go down?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 22:04:08
January 11 2018 22:03 GMT
#193318
The one nice thing Trump is forcing the media to stop beijng politically correct.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 11 2018 22:13 GMT
#193319
On January 12 2018 06:42 Plansix wrote:
I 100% expect him to claim that fence funding is the wall.


I mean, it's gonna be. Especially that extra 1.2B for "other shit". That other shit is 100% going to be wall related. Which is fine. It is better that the wall actually begins being built so that in 2020, people will be able to point at this joke of a 800 meter wall and be like "this is all this shit head is capable of building".
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9628 Posts
January 11 2018 22:15 GMT
#193320
On January 12 2018 06:59 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 06:43 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 12 2018 05:54 Introvert wrote:
Knew that the group of Republicans negotiating this was awful. I'm sure the insane activists would still be angry, at least some of them.

https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/951543150304223232

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/951551387078344704


Did you catch it on TV when Trump was helping to negotiate this?


Can you clue in us foreigners? How did it go down?

he agreed to a clean Daca bill and then mccarthy walked him back in literally the next sentence.
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