EPTi’m not gonna take a stab at speaking for ‘the left’ here, but i just don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks about my patriotism.
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brian
United States9638 Posts
i’m not gonna take a stab at speaking for ‘the left’ here, but i just don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks about my patriotism. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3295 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote: Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. This is the dumbest game, and we want no part in it. "I love my country" =/= "I think my country has zero flaws," a distinction I know you understand because "MAGA" only makes sense if you understand that distinction. I'll let Gahlo defend his patriotism but I'll say I think there's a lot of broken shit in the US and I want to fix it. That's not an unpatriotic position. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote: Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. it's a true statement, so i'm not inclined to care so much; there's a difference between patriotism and nationalism (at least if you use that distinction, i'm not sure how many different ways there are of denoting that). it doesn't seem overtly stupid to me. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote: Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. Yeah daaamn people aren't patriotic enough to ignore reality. Show me the well oiled machine riding into a secure future that your USA is. Shit is smoldering all over the place, just in need of a bit of wind to light it up. | ||
KwarK
United States43611 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote: Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. Because the only true patriotism is blind worship of the status quo. It's right there in the constitution. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a completely perfect Union (and if you don't like it then you can just git out), establish... Trying to improve the country requires admitting that the country isn't perfect, something that a lot of people seem to struggle with for whatever reason. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:30 Gorsameth wrote: 80% of Republican voters approve of the job the President is doing. Gallup. If they voted him in while thinking he would do better that number would be lower no? Trump is what the Republicans wanted. I genuinely think the biggest factor in getting Trump instead of some other republican guy is how offensive he is. People were delighted. Finally here's a guy who isn't afraid to mock the disabled during a speech, talk about having sex with minors, brazenly sexually harass women (and that language is generous to him) and to top all that off, he hates Obama AND Muslims! That'll piss off the sour-faced dykes at the Guardian. He's the perfect guy for this day and age. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11752 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:58 zlefin wrote: it's a true statement, so i'm not inclined to care so much; there's a difference between patriotism and nationalism (at least if you use that distinction, i'm not sure how many different ways there are of denoting that). it doesn't seem overtly stupid to me. Also, patriotism as an argument is just bad. If you accept it, you can counter basically any criticism of anything in the country with "You should be more patriotic! Why do you hate countryX" Which is quite obviously silly. If the country is that great, it should be able to stand up to criticism on its own merits. It doesn't need the added armor of zealous patriotism. And if it isn't, it doesn't warrant the patriotism anyways. Even the best countries have things that are not ideal in them, which you should be able to criticize, otherwise they cannot be improved. If anything, deflecting any criticism of stuff going on in your country with the patridiotic bat is thoroughly unpatriotic, because it means you don't want the country to be the best it can be, you just want it to look good and no one to complain. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
This isn't to say that the US is perfect and that we shouldn't point out its faults, but I'm quite amused to see that y'all won't even acknowledge how retarded Gahlo's statement is. And as for the point about patriotism, all y'all do on the Left is bitch about the country and call it racist and imperialistic (in a bad way), so please forgive us on the Right for being a little confused as to why we should consider you to be patriotic. | ||
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brian
United States9638 Posts
and don’t consider me patriotic. who cares? | ||
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KwarK
United States43611 Posts
On October 05 2017 01:03 xDaunt wrote: So, comparing the US to a banana republic like Puerto Rico is accurate.... Okay then.... This isn't to say that the US is perfect and that we shouldn't point out its faults, but I'm quite amused to see that y'all won't even acknowledge how retarded Gahlo's statement is. And as for the point about patriotism, all y'all do on the Left is bitch about the country and call it racist and imperialistic (in a bad way), so please forgive us on the Right for being a little confused as to why we should consider you to be patriotic. ? Puerto Rico is a part of the US! How do you not know this?! | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote: Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. I know you haven't clued in yet, but there's basically only four people in this thread that actually care about "patriotism" like it's something important. On October 05 2017 01:03 xDaunt wrote: So, comparing the US to a banana republic like Puerto Rico is accurate.... Okay then.... This isn't to say that the US is perfect and that we shouldn't point out its faults, but I'm quite amused to see that y'all won't even acknowledge how retarded Gahlo's statement is. And as for the point about patriotism, all y'all do on the Left is bitch about the country and call it racist and imperialistic (in a bad way), so please forgive us on the Right for being a little confused as to why we should consider you to be patriotic. Lol fml even Trump knows that Puerto Rico is part of the US. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10853 Posts
And i don't see anyone here burning an american flag, but you get pisses for people kneeling in front of it because kneeling is somehow disrespectful. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 05 2017 01:03 xDaunt wrote: So, comparing the US to a banana republic like Puerto Rico is accurate.... Okay then.... This isn't to say that the US is perfect and that we shouldn't point out its faults, but I'm quite amused to see that y'all won't even acknowledge how retarded Gahlo's statement is. And as for the point about patriotism, all y'all do on the Left is bitch about the country and call it racist and imperialistic (in a bad way), so please forgive us on the Right for being a little confused as to why we should consider you to be patriotic. Puerto Rico is part of the US. If it is a banana republic, the US is a banana republic. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote: Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. I sent my brother to two garbage ass wars that accomplished nothing and supported his entire troop while they were there. And after, through a whole bunch of shit and a couple funerals.I have seen how this country treats its servants and most vulnerable citizens, with empty words and indifference. If I want to call this country garbage, I will. Do not ever question or imply that anyone doing so does not love for this country or their patriotism, you useless shill. | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Far as I read nobody did that. Not in the post you quoted at the least. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 05 2017 01:07 youngjiddle wrote: puerto rico must regret not becoming a state. Little secret about that: they can’t become a state on their own. Even if they vote for it, the rest of the states have to accept them. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 05 2017 01:08 Artisreal wrote: How did you pull the comparison of the US as a whole to its state PR out of your... hat? Far as I read nobody did that. Not in the post you quoted at the least. Because he lifted the language directly from my post. The context is undeniable. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 05 2017 01:08 Plansix wrote: Little secret about that: they can’t become a state on their own. Even if they vote for it, the rest of the states have to accept them. Which would probably never happen because it's easy enough to determine PR's political leanings and the opposing side has no motivation to tilt things against their own power. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 05 2017 01:09 Logo wrote: Which would probably never happen because it's easy enough to determine PR's political leanings and the opposing side has no motivation to tilt things against their own power. Voting to add states diminishes the power of other states. Given the population of PR and the way the Republicans have been dealing with the Hispanic population for the last 20 years, there is zero chance there would be enough states on board to grant statehood to PR. | ||
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