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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
August 24 2017 16:23 GMT
#170841
Hehe, in the end it'll be him and his family by himself: 0 monies for charity. Sad really, one of them should organise a second charity at the exact same date, and invite everyone.
On track to MA1950A.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45027 Posts
August 24 2017 16:25 GMT
#170842
I must say that I'm shocked by the fact that so many charities don't wish to support our Nazi-supporting president /s
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21951 Posts
August 24 2017 16:37 GMT
#170843
On August 25 2017 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I must say that I'm shocked by the fact that so many charities don't wish to support our Nazi-supporting president /s

Most of them don't give a shit. They are just doing it because once the first one goes it looks bad if you don't follow.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 24 2017 16:49 GMT
#170844
Tropical Storm Harvey is getting stronger and could make landfall in the middle of the Texas coast as a category 3 hurricane Friday night, the National Hurricane Center says, warning of the potential for a deadly storm surge and flooding along the Gulf of Mexico.

The storm's winds are currently rated at 65 mph — but they could reach 115 mph in the next 36 hours, forecasters say, announcing that the Middle Texas Coast is currently under a hurricane warning.

Harvey "intensified quickly" Thursday morning and could bring a storm surge of 6-10 feet above ground level; rainfall of 12-20 inches could bring floods, with some areas getting as much as 30 inches of water from Friday into next week, the National Weather Service agency said in an advisory Thursday morning.

"On the forecast track, Harvey will approach the middle Texas coast on Friday and make landfall Friday night or early Saturday, and then stall near the middle Texas coast through the weekend," the hurricane center says.

A storm surge warning is in effect for hundreds of miles of the Texas coastline, from Port Mansfield near South Padre Island to San Luis Pass just south of Galveston.

Beaches and schools in the storm's path are closing. The Corpus Christi office of the National Weather Service is urging residents to finish their preparations for the storm now, before conditions deteriorate. To combat flooding, the city of Corpus Christi is currently providing residents up to 20 sandbags each.

The forecast for Harvey "has become quite concerning," the hurricane center says, after an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft found the storm's center early Thursday. The storm was seen at the verge of becoming a hurricane, with central pressure that continues to fall and the storm predicted to strengthen as it passes over warm water.

Calling the intensification "astounding," NHC forecasters say they now see "a 70 percent chance of Harvey's winds increasing by 45 kt [some 50 mph] over the next 36 hours."

As of Thursday morning, Harvey was moving toward the north-northwest at nearly 10 mph and was expected to turn toward the northwest later today.

The deepest storm surge will hit the coast near the center of the landfall and to the northeast, "where the surge will be accompanied by large and destructive waves," federal forecasters say.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 24 2017 17:06 GMT
#170845
I checked and couldn't find anything. Do we have a head of FEMA yet?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
August 24 2017 17:17 GMT
#170846
On August 25 2017 02:06 Plansix wrote:
I checked and couldn't find anything. Do we have a head of FEMA yet?


I think there is one:
https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/1503508929796-c3cd87165e84f2ff626c1a8a6147670d/FEMA_Org_Chart.pdf

From here:

https://www.fema.gov/media-library/assets/documents/28183


It was updated in Aug. 2017, so I'd assume it's up to date.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 24 2017 17:24 GMT
#170847
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
August 24 2017 17:30 GMT
#170848
Read abotu the Public Policy Polling survey elsewhere, so putting it here in case anyone is interested in reading it.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_82317.pdf



it contains this part which isn't that surprising really:
"The reason Trump hasn't lost more ground for his widely panned response to the
attack is probably that many of his supporters agree with some of the beliefs that
led white supremacists to rally in Charlottesville in the first place. Asked what
racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump
voters say it's white people followed by 17% for Native Americans with 16%
picking African Americans, and 5% picking Latinos. Asked what religious group
they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says
it's Christians followed by 22% for Muslims and 12% for Jews. There is a mindset
among many Trump voters that it's whites and Christians getting trampled on in
America that makes it unlikely they would abandon Trump over his 'both sides'
rhetoric. "
I'd like more data from alternate sources of course on that point.

When researching how good their surveys are I came across 538's pollster rankings:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
August 24 2017 17:56 GMT
#170849
On August 25 2017 02:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/900767411699417092


dead link. anyone got a copy of the old tweet?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
August 24 2017 17:58 GMT
#170850
On August 25 2017 02:56 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 02:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/900767411699417092


dead link. anyone got a copy of the old tweet?

Something stupidly anti-semitic about jewish people being bad at driving.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45027 Posts
August 24 2017 18:24 GMT
#170851
On August 25 2017 02:58 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 02:56 Mohdoo wrote:
On August 25 2017 02:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/900767411699417092


dead link. anyone got a copy of the old tweet?

Something stupidly anti-semitic about jewish people being bad at driving.


Is that even a stereotype? I thought Jewish people were cheap and Asians were bad drivers?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 24 2017 18:36 GMT
#170852
On August 25 2017 02:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/900767411699417092

Are we seriously back to not attacking the tweet and pivoting to an unserious standard of researching every user before you retweet their comment?

Absolutely pathetic. It's like you want to lose.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 24 2017 18:42 GMT
#170853
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21951 Posts
August 24 2017 18:50 GMT
#170854
On August 25 2017 03:36 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 02:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/900767411699417092

Are we seriously back to not attacking the tweet and pivoting to an unserious standard of researching every user before you retweet their comment?

Absolutely pathetic. It's like you want to lose.

No, its about Trump yet again re-tweeting something from an anti-semite which he has a history of doing.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
August 24 2017 18:55 GMT
#170855
On August 25 2017 03:36 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 02:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/900767411699417092

Are we seriously back to not attacking the tweet and pivoting to an unserious standard of researching every user before you retweet their comment?

Absolutely pathetic. It's like you want to lose.

Second in command of the free world retweeting an anti-semite is just totally fine to you?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 24 2017 19:07 GMT
#170856
On August 25 2017 02:30 zlefin wrote:
Asked what racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump
voters say it's white people followed by 17% for Native Americans with 16%
picking African Americans, and 5% picking Latinos. Asked what religious group
they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says
it's Christians followed by 22% for Muslims and 12% for Jews.

I'm curious what kind of warped logic leads people to believe that White Christians face *more* discrimination than minorities.

I get that they probably receive more than they did 20 years ago, and maybe more than some are used to. But the idea that it's *more than minorities* is just so patently absurd that I don't know what kind of logic gets you there.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9629 Posts
August 24 2017 19:10 GMT
#170857
a lack of ability to recognize personal failures and a desire to blame something else.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
August 24 2017 19:12 GMT
#170858
On August 25 2017 04:07 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 02:30 zlefin wrote:
Asked what racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump
voters say it's white people followed by 17% for Native Americans with 16%
picking African Americans, and 5% picking Latinos. Asked what religious group
they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says
it's Christians followed by 22% for Muslims and 12% for Jews.

I'm curious what kind of warped logic leads people to believe that White Christians face *more* discrimination than minorities.

I get that they probably receive more than they did 20 years ago, and maybe more than some are used to. But the idea that it's *more than minorities* is just so patently absurd that I don't know what kind of logic gets you there.



Fox news and the war on christmas segments come to mind.

Same with the anti religous discrimination laws.


These people are selfish n self absorbed. Thats how. I dont see much empathy in them.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 24 2017 19:19 GMT
#170859
We talked about this in the past, that telling people they are under siege and attack at all times lead to them becoming more entrenched in their views. It is a form of psychological manipulation.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 19:29:39
August 24 2017 19:27 GMT
#170860
On August 25 2017 04:07 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 02:30 zlefin wrote:
Asked what racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump
voters say it's white people followed by 17% for Native Americans with 16%
picking African Americans, and 5% picking Latinos. Asked what religious group
they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says
it's Christians followed by 22% for Muslims and 12% for Jews.

I'm curious what kind of warped logic leads people to believe that White Christians face *more* discrimination than minorities.

I get that they probably receive more than they did 20 years ago, and maybe more than some are used to. But the idea that it's *more than minorities* is just so patently absurd that I don't know what kind of logic gets you there.

I have a conservative friend from highschool that I talk to every now and then. He's under the impression that all the racial stuff that's come up recently is synthesized and it was never a problem when we were younger. To him, anything POC related seems fake.

Conversely, the push back against White Christianity wasn't there before(or at least I never noticed it - not being part of the group) so each instance of it seems like a big deal. That's why things like "Happy Holidays" is seen as aggression to them. They're used to imposing themselves on other people as opposed to being met half way. They grew up in a time when people didn't respond with "Carl, we've been neighbors for 20 years and my last name is Rosentein. You know I'm Jewish."
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