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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 01 2014 05:17 GMT
#16661
WASHINGTON, Jan 30 (Reuters) - Forty industry groups launched a new partnership on Thursday to form a "unified strategy" to respond to forthcoming federal regulations targeting carbon emissions from the country's fleet of power plants and other carbon-intensive facilities.

Led by the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Institute for 21st Century Energy, the group will lobby local, state and national lawmakers and educate the public about what they believe will be the economic impact of future regulation.

NAM President and chief executive officer Jay Timmons and other members of the Partnership for a Better Energy Future said President Barack Obama's climate action plan, which will target domestic emissions through executive actions, such as power plant emission standards, aims to completely eliminate fossil fuels from the U.S. economy.

"To remain competitive in a global economy, manufacturers need an 'all-of-the-above' energy strategy to ensure they have access to affordable and reliable energy," Timmons said in a statement.

Obama touted what he said was a successful energy approach in his State of the Union address on Tuesday night, saying the strategy has enabled an expansion of natural gas and oil production while driving a decline in greenhouse gas emissions.

"The all-of-the-above energy strategy I announced a few years ago is working, and today, America is closer to energy independence than we've been in decades," he said.

The members of the partnership, as well as some environmental groups, have been wary of the administration's energy plans.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 01 2014 05:53 GMT
#16662
On February 01 2014 11:31 PassiveAce wrote:
why do i even subscribe to this thread.
everything here makes me depressed.
if it isnt stealthblue posting some really depressing news its a retarded argument between all of TL versus 1-2 american conservatives.
strangely enough, swapping this for, "its a american argument between all of TL versus 1-2 retarded conservatives" works too. Just can't see the light and don't like the flavor of that new free government cheese they're advertising!

If keystone goes through, that would be uplifting news. I don't know how long they're willing to wait before running the pipe out to the coast to be sold to international consumers.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 05:59:01
February 01 2014 05:58 GMT
#16663
what is an american argument?
i seriously dont know what you mean by that.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 01 2014 06:14 GMT
#16664
On February 01 2014 14:58 PassiveAce wrote:
what is an american argument?
i seriously dont know what you mean by that.
Retarded conservatives ... you did see that one right? The whisper on the breeze from all of TL.

This might be a little deep for a passing forum post, but notice the frequent returns to the American left/right debate vs a world-wide separation of political ideologies. This being the US politics megathread in a worldwide forum, maybe you might find the surface level explanation. But I'm explaining a joke and that's fruitless, you either see it or you don't.

On February 01 2014 11:31 PassiveAce wrote:
its a retarded argument between all of TL versus 1-2 american conservatives.
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
"its a american argument between all of TL versus 1-2 retarded conservatives" works too
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
February 01 2014 06:29 GMT
#16665
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
If keystone goes through, that would be uplifting news. I don't know how long they're willing to wait before running the pipe out to the coast to be sold to international consumers.


Eminent domain was written into the Constitution just for foreign oil companies, amirite?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 01 2014 07:15 GMT
#16666
On February 01 2014 15:29 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
If keystone goes through, that would be uplifting news. I don't know how long they're willing to wait before running the pipe out to the coast to be sold to international consumers.


Eminent domain was written into the Constitution just for foreign oil companies, amirite?
Negotiating with foreign powers for the conduct of trade is one of the few proper roles of the federal government. The refineries are American business and that's the refining market. You say "foreign oil companies," so maybe you're holding to some ancient protectionist doctrine?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 10:47:50
February 01 2014 10:46 GMT
#16667
On February 01 2014 15:14 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 14:58 PassiveAce wrote:
what is an american argument?
i seriously dont know what you mean by that.
Retarded conservatives ... you did see that one right? The whisper on the breeze from all of TL.

This might be a little deep for a passing forum post, but notice the frequent returns to the American left/right debate vs a world-wide separation of political ideologies. This being the US politics megathread in a worldwide forum, maybe you might find the surface level explanation. But I'm explaining a joke and that's fruitless, you either see it or you don't.

On February 01 2014 11:31 PassiveAce wrote:
its a retarded argument between all of TL versus 1-2 american conservatives.
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
"its a american argument between all of TL versus 1-2 retarded conservatives" works too


And there I thought being a Conservative is oh so against playing the victim card.

//edit: see, I can "joke" too - OR DID I?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 12:38:19
February 01 2014 12:31 GMT
#16668
On February 01 2014 15:29 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
If keystone goes through, that would be uplifting news. I don't know how long they're willing to wait before running the pipe out to the coast to be sold to international consumers.


Eminent domain was written into the Constitution just for foreign oil companies, amirite?


no, no, no. it was written for us oil companies too.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
February 01 2014 15:53 GMT
#16669
On February 01 2014 16:15 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 15:29 Mindcrime wrote:
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
If keystone goes through, that would be uplifting news. I don't know how long they're willing to wait before running the pipe out to the coast to be sold to international consumers.


Eminent domain was written into the Constitution just for foreign oil companies, amirite?
Negotiating with foreign powers for the conduct of trade is one of the few proper roles of the federal government. The refineries are American business and that's the refining market. You say "foreign oil companies," so maybe you're holding to some ancient protectionist doctrine?


So you're for property rights and "limited government" until an oil company needs more land. gotcha
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
The Savage
Profile Joined January 2014
6 Posts
February 01 2014 16:29 GMT
#16670
On February 01 2014 11:31 PassiveAce wrote:
why do i even subscribe to this thread.
everything here makes me depressed.
if it isnt stealthblue posting some really depressing news its a retarded argument between all of TL versus 1-2 american conservatives.

Don't sign up for a circle jerk and then complain when you got someone's dick in your hand.

User was banned for this post.
The purpose of a constitution is not to promote Democracy, it is to protect the people from too much Democracy.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 01 2014 16:48 GMT
#16671
On February 01 2014 14:53 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 11:31 PassiveAce wrote:
why do i even subscribe to this thread.
everything here makes me depressed.
if it isnt stealthblue posting some really depressing news its a retarded argument between all of TL versus 1-2 american conservatives.
strangely enough, swapping this for, "its a american argument between all of TL versus 1-2 retarded conservatives" works too. Just can't see the light and don't like the flavor of that new free government cheese they're advertising!

If keystone goes through, that would be uplifting news. I don't know how long they're willing to wait before running the pipe out to the coast to be sold to international consumers.


Yeah, I mean, that'll really help with the US' energy independence. Oh wait...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 01 2014 19:04 GMT
#16672
Walmart struggled at the end of last year. But according to the retailer's new estimations, it wasn’t because people didn’t want to buy. It was because they couldn’t.

The retail giant warned Friday that the effect of last year's national food stamp cuts on its bottom line will likely be deeper than the company previous estimated. As a result its comparable same-store sales -- an retail metric that measures how stores are doing year over year -- will likely be slightly down for the fourth quarter.

“The sales impact from the reduction in SNAP [the U.S. government Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program] benefits that went into effect Nov. 1 is greater than we expected,” Walmart’s Chief Financial Officer Charles Holley said in a news release Friday. “And, second, eight named winter storms resulted in store closures that impacted traffic throughout the quarter.”

The GOP-led push to cut the food stamps benefits to the tune of $5 billion left 47 million Americans reeling during a time of nearly record-level food insecurity.

Because about 18 percent of all total food stamp dollars are spent at its stores, according to an October report from the Wall Street Journal, Walmart can serve as a way to gauge how Americans are coping.

Walmart executives were cautiously optimistic about the effects of the cut on Walmart's bottom line last year. "Everybody's benefit is going to get cut, price will become more important. And when price is more important, we're more relevant," Bill Simon, the retail giant’s U.S. CEO, said in October. He noted that Walmart’s market share actually decreased when the food stamp program initially expanded in 2009.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22353 Posts
February 01 2014 19:12 GMT
#16673
Id feel sorry for Walmart if it wasnt for the large amount of there own people who are on foodstamps....
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 01 2014 22:23 GMT
#16674
its okay, theyll just use their bootstraps to become millionaires. the more you oppress the poor the harder they work to get rich.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 01 2014 23:35 GMT
#16675
lol yea that's fantastic irony. also a reflection of the macrocosm of inequality when you've sucked up so much wealth from the bottom rung that the entire fish tank is a bit lacking in oxygen.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
February 01 2014 23:40 GMT
#16676
One business cutting wages to increase profit might work, but when they all do it they start running out of customers.

I wonder how bad it will get before they decide to change anything.
Vegetarian
Profile Joined October 2008
119 Posts
February 02 2014 00:17 GMT
#16677
On February 02 2014 08:40 SnipedSoul wrote:
One business cutting wages to increase profit might work, but when they all do it they start running out of customers.

I wonder how bad it will get before they decide to change anything.


Businesses do not set wages, they are determined by supply and demand within a given marketplace.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 02 2014 00:24 GMT
#16678
On February 02 2014 09:17 Vegetarian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 08:40 SnipedSoul wrote:
One business cutting wages to increase profit might work, but when they all do it they start running out of customers.

I wonder how bad it will get before they decide to change anything.


Businesses do not set wages, they are determined by supply and demand within a given marketplace.


When I worked for the little garden shop around the corner, I'm pretty sure "the marketplace" didn't set my wage. Pretty sure my boss did.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 00:39:16
February 02 2014 00:37 GMT
#16679
On February 02 2014 09:17 Vegetarian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 08:40 SnipedSoul wrote:
One business cutting wages to increase profit might work, but when they all do it they start running out of customers.

I wonder how bad it will get before they decide to change anything.


Businesses do not set wages, they are determined by supply and demand within a given marketplace.

There are so few jobs that walmart can pay the legal minimum. However, since much of their customer base also works there (or at similar jobs with low pay) they can't afford to splurge on things at walmart.

SnipedSoul was making the astute comment that one company may be able to get away with low wages without hurting the economy, but if all megacorporations pay low wages the economy will be hurt because these corporations make their money from (partly) minimum wage employees.

Unless you go full Austrian you should realize that it may actually be bad for the minimum wage in the country to be low.

TBH we need to end government subsidization of megacorporations and increase the minimum wage.
Vegetarian
Profile Joined October 2008
119 Posts
February 02 2014 01:41 GMT
#16680
On February 02 2014 09:24 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 09:17 Vegetarian wrote:
On February 02 2014 08:40 SnipedSoul wrote:
One business cutting wages to increase profit might work, but when they all do it they start running out of customers.

I wonder how bad it will get before they decide to change anything.


Businesses do not set wages, they are determined by supply and demand within a given marketplace.


When I worked for the little garden shop around the corner, I'm pretty sure "the marketplace" didn't set my wage. Pretty sure my boss did.



Roe can you explain this phenomenon of people being paid more than the minimum wage? If its just up to a boss what people are paid then why does anyone get paid more than the minimum wage?
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