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{CC}StealthBlue
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On May 16 2017 21:12 farvacola wrote: Even if Trump hasn't done anything impeachable yet, I don't see how he can make it a full four years with tweets like the above still coming full force. I guess the person who had taken his phone away previously is no longer able or something lol. can you really impeach someone over tweets? lol | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Not tweets. Releasing top secret information to rival governments for literally no reason. For context, if anyone but the president did that it by mistake, they would be fired and likely never work in government again. If they meant to do it, it would be treason. And releasing the information likely puts intelligence sharing relationships in jeopardy. Lets not even get into the fact that the White House staff denied all of this last night, which is the same thing they did when Comey was fired. And the next day, we find out that everything they said was essentially a lie. Governments run on trust. If Congress can’t take the White House’s words in good faith, it will become impossible for government to operate normally. Several Senators have said they are not sure which, if any laws were violated. People are pretty sure the President can declassify information at any time, but it has never come up so they are not 100% sure. We are in uncharted waters at this point. However, experts did point out that this could be seen as a violation of the oath of office. Trump is White House is incompetent that is overwhelming congress with it’s errors in the first 6 months. Which is what he did to the media during the election. But unlike then, these mistakes won’t be ignored. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
There's so much lobbying backroom deals, spying, collaborating with rogue nations etc. And that's common knowledge pretty much? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On May 16 2017 20:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: And he just threw McMaster and Co. Who said they were in the room under the bus. the thing with the trump train is you never know if you're on it or in front of it | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 16 2017 22:16 LemOn wrote: Wait you actually trust what the government says? There's so much lobbying backroom deals, spying, collaborating with rogue nations etc. And that's common knowledge pretty much? When the fuck did I say that? I got this news from the W. Post, NYT and other news outlets. The Senators were answering questions on NPR and there were a few I respect. If you are asking if I automatically dismiss all information provided by government officials or others, the answer is no. | ||
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Yurie
12183 Posts
On May 16 2017 22:16 LemOn wrote: Wait you actually trust what the government says? There's so much lobbying backroom deals, spying, collaborating with rogue nations etc. And that's common knowledge pretty much? If you can't trust the vast majority of what they say you should replace it as soon as possible with one you can trust. Overall the US government has historically been trustworthy and still is in my eyes. A few major glaring faults exist but they are a small small portion of the whole. Just ignore the white house during Trump and a large part of the GOP and you still have a small part. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 16 2017 22:18 ticklishmusic wrote: the thing with the trump train is you never know if you're on it or in front of it I think this tweet is less him throwing them under the bus and more him throwing the bus on them. He also thoroughly dismantled the fumbling attempts by the Republicans to say this was just an innocent rookie mistake with this tweet because da great Trump can't be seen ta make da mistakes. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
The Democratic National Committee staffer shot and killed in Washington, D.C., last summer leaked more than 44,000 emails to WikiLeaks before his death, according to a report. The Fox News report implies that Seth Rich may have been the one who leaked information about the DNC to WikiLeaks that showed, among other things, that the DNC favored Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders in the presidential primary. While it's not clear, the report does note that WikiLeaks posted that information just 12 days after Rich was killed. However, U.S. intelligence officials believe Russia hacked into the DNC and allowed that information to be sent to WikiLeaks. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/murdered-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-had-sent-44000-internal-emails-to-wikileaks-report/article/2623186 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 16 2017 23:11 TMG26 wrote: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/murdered-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-had-sent-44000-internal-emails-to-wikileaks-report/article/2623186 A spokesman for the Rich family said Wheeler was not authorized to speak for the family and called assertions Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks "unsubstantiated." Brad Bauman said even if purported emails were to surface, it would not necessarily mean Rich had helped WikiLeaks. "Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so," Bauman said. "We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers." | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8222 Posts
In all seriousness, I know it's petty but I'm having a truly great time reading our fellow trumpists saying it's no big deal and nothing is proven while remembering the thousand pages of trash about Clinton using the wrong server for her email and being investigated by it. Hearing about liberal's mouths foaming and whitch hunt is even more tasty. More of this please. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On May 16 2017 23:30 Doodsmack wrote: Just waiting to see his approval numbers in polls that come out next week. 35-40%, same as now. Those who supported him a week ago will support him regardless of the scandals and investigations. He can't lose their support without personally coming by to fire them from their job. As the man himself said I could 'shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters' | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 16 2017 23:21 Biff The Understudy wrote: Guys, it's fine. Trump and his supporters have always said it was ok to mishandle classified informations and be investigated by the FBI. Oh wait. In all seriousness, I know it's petty but I'm having a truly great time reading our fellow trumpists saying it's no big deal and nothing is proven while remembering the thousand pages of trash about Clinton using the wrong server for her email and being investigated by it. Hearing about liberal's mouths foaming and whitch hunt is even more tasty. More of this please. The creme de la creme(fight me, qwerty accenting is hard) is when the republicans get all defensive about it and accuse the democrats of partisan hackery. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 16 2017 23:39 ticklishmusic wrote: https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/864483558672539648 That's actually about the same as the polling when Nixon resigned, though presumably the atmosphere is more partisan these days. | ||
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Wulfey_LA
932 Posts
On May 16 2017 23:33 Mohdoo wrote: Poor McMaster. Left with a choice of "Do I tell the truth and get fired, or do I take a chance that I am proven a liar" There was no chance. McMaster volunteered to get burned to buy another good segment on Hannity for Trump. Trump trots out one staffer every few days to get another good segment on Hannity. Trump then watches that segment for affirmation before bed. | ||
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