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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 06 2017 03:52 GMT
#149161
On May 06 2017 12:48 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 12:46 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
in other news you may have missed Rand Paul thinks he was spied on by Obama and/or the intelligence community

But... Why? Not why does he think that, I mean, why would they bother? He was never a serious contender and he's basically just a rabblerouser in the senate.


I literally have 0 idea why he would think that.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 06 2017 03:59 GMT
#149162
Probably another smokescreen to distract from all their "winning".
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 06:59:56
May 06 2017 06:59 GMT
#149163
It's Rand Paul whose father is Ron Paul the man who thinks the United States is at fault for the Korean War. Everything is a conspiracy once in a while with that family.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 06 2017 10:24 GMT
#149164
he's probably gotten paranoid while boning up on dystopian novels for the class he's going to teach next semester at GWU on "dystopian visions"

or maybe the NSA spies on everyone
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 06 2017 12:13 GMT
#149165
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 06 2017 16:34 GMT
#149166
In late November, a member of Donald Trump's transition team approached national security officials in the Obama White House with a curious request: Could the incoming team get a copy of the classified CIA profile on Sergey Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States?

Marshall Billingslea, a former Pentagon and NATO official, wanted the information for his boss, Michael Flynn, who had been tapped by Trump to serve as White House national security adviser. Billingslea knew Flynn would be speaking to Kislyak, according to two former Obama administration officials, and seemed concerned Flynn did not fully understand he was dealing with a man rumored to have ties to Russian intelligence agencies.

...

In the following weeks, the Obama White House would grow deeply distrustful of Trump's dealing with the Kremlin and anxious about his team's ties. The concern — compounded by surge of new intelligence, including evidence of multiple calls, texts and at least one in-person meeting between Flynn and Kislyak — would eventually grow so great Obama advisers delayed telling Trump's team about plans to punish Russia for its election meddling. Obama officials worried the incoming administration might tip off Moscow, according to one Obama adviser.

...

Obama aides described Flynn as notably dismissive of the threat Russia posed to the United States when discussing policy in transition meetings with outgoing national security adviser Susan Rice and other top officials.

Officials also found it curious that Billingslea only ever asked Obama's National Security Council for one classified leadership profile to give to Flynn: the internal document on Kislyak.

...

While it's not inappropriate for someone in Flynn's position to have contact with a diplomat, Obama officials said the frequency of his discussions raised enough red flags that aides discussed the possibility Trump was trying to establish a one-to-one line of communication — a so-called back channel — with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Obama aides say they never determined why Flynn was in close contact with the ambassador.


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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24167 Posts
May 06 2017 18:36 GMT
#149167
On May 06 2017 21:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/emilyrauhala/status/860755144891187200


Republicans acknowledge Trump is using the presidency to increase his personal wealth and his close associates' right?

I mean folks like Danglers and xDaunt don't think this stuff is something other than naked profiteering from the presidency (while president)?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 06 2017 18:54 GMT
#149168
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 06 2017 19:03 GMT
#149169
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 06 2017 19:42 GMT
#149170
On May 07 2017 04:03 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/indiancountry/status/860914308255031298

Because that's the one thing that will finally sink Trump. His mocking of whiter-than-white Elizabeth Warren claiming American Indian ancestry (it's in the high cheekbones from self-evaluation, not genealogy) is that step too far. Absurd. And he definitely doesn't need more currency to fight identified and mis-identified grievance peddlers.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 06 2017 20:15 GMT
#149171
^ completely ignoring that the term Pocahontas is being used in a derogatory manner.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 20:20:12
May 06 2017 20:19 GMT
#149172
On May 07 2017 04:42 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 04:03 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/indiancountry/status/860914308255031298

Because that's the one thing that will finally sink Trump. His mocking of whiter-than-white Elizabeth Warren claiming American Indian ancestry (it's in the high cheekbones from self-evaluation, not genealogy) is that step too far. Absurd. And he definitely doesn't need more currency to fight identified and mis-identified grievance peddlers.


lmao I had never seen that video. Jesus Warren is retarded lol

Has she come out and said anything about this? Does she still say its true or has she been like "yeah ok it was just family lore I realize its not true"
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 06 2017 20:50 GMT
#149173
On May 07 2017 05:19 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 04:42 Danglars wrote:
On May 07 2017 04:03 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/indiancountry/status/860914308255031298

Because that's the one thing that will finally sink Trump. His mocking of whiter-than-white Elizabeth Warren claiming American Indian ancestry (it's in the high cheekbones from self-evaluation, not genealogy) is that step too far. Absurd. And he definitely doesn't need more currency to fight identified and mis-identified grievance peddlers.


lmao I had never seen that video. Jesus Warren is retarded lol

Has she come out and said anything about this? Does she still say its true or has she been like "yeah ok it was just family lore I realize its not true"

That's the only thing she's used to defend herself when asked when she listed herself as a minority for a school directory and claimed to be a Native American professor at Harvard. It's just her silly thing until Trump picked up on it.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 06 2017 20:52 GMT
#149174
Meh, Warren proved she doesn't really have what it takes to be much more than a somewhat more well-known senator. Her DNC performance showed that overall she was kinda shallow. I hardly care about whether she's Pocahontas or not and I'm not sure who does care besides the "Trump does everything wrong and we need to aggressively note it" crowd.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 06 2017 20:57 GMT
#149175
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 06 2017 22:21 GMT
#149176
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 23:25:56
May 06 2017 23:24 GMT
#149177
Why is it that a man working in entertainment has what feels like an actual news program, and our so-called news media feels like a joke in its attempt to feel like entertainment? It just feels so weird when I wonder what series of events must transpire for this switch to take place.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 07 2017 01:16 GMT
#149178
It will be an absolute firestorm for Trump and republicans if even one person is indicted in the trump Russia matter. And it could even be for a relatively low level offense like failing to register as a foreign agent.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 07 2017 01:25 GMT
#149179
On May 07 2017 08:24 NewSunshine wrote:
Why is it that a man working in entertainment has what feels like an actual news program, and our so-called news media feels like a joke in its attempt to feel like entertainment? It just feels so weird when I wonder what series of events must transpire for this switch to take place.

News became a business centered around entertaining 24/7 would be my guess. Gotta fill that air time, which is why there's god awful shit like the CNN 1 anchor, 4 guest talkathons. It doesn't feel like news. People go there with a message instead of actually having a meaningful discussion.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 07 2017 03:23 GMT
#149180
On May 07 2017 10:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 08:24 NewSunshine wrote:
Why is it that a man working in entertainment has what feels like an actual news program, and our so-called news media feels like a joke in its attempt to feel like entertainment? It just feels so weird when I wonder what series of events must transpire for this switch to take place.

News became a business centered around entertaining 24/7 would be my guess. Gotta fill that air time, which is why there's god awful shit like the CNN 1 anchor, 4 guest talkathons. It doesn't feel like news. People go there with a message instead of actually having a meaningful discussion.

It does feel like they aspire for their show to feel like fucking Sports Center. But your job as a news reporter is to make an as-objective-as-possible statement about known facts of current goings-on, and to state possible conclusions that could be drawn from them. That's it. And that's a job that requires no more than 1 person to talk(actually gathering the sources and checking your facts is another matter of course). My guess is companies/politicians got involved, and big money started flowing in, so they have to fill the airtime with as many panels, 'experts', and guests as possible, which destroys its integrity and focus.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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