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zlefin
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if noone else has said anything, please just edit-consolidate your posts into one. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On April 09 2017 06:00 zlefin wrote: doodsmack? who are you talking to? you've posted several posts in a row, with no intervening posts I can see by anyone else, so you're not conversing. it sounds like you're tlaking to someone, but I don't see anyone, and iirc this board has no feature for filtering out anyone's posts so I couldn't be missing the posts you're talking to. if noone else has said anything, please just edit-consolidate your posts into one. maybe he thinks he's on his twitter account. this very much is twitter thread esque | ||
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Godwrath
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LegalLord
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On April 09 2017 04:35 Mohdoo wrote: Isn't there a reason we're not just joining up with Assad to cleanse the area of any form of extremism? Besides "but muh civilians!! etc", and an actual military power dynamics reason. My understanding is that we wanted to weaken Syria because it weakens Russia. While Assad isn't a terrorist - he's a shitty secular dictator - some of his alliance includes groups that the US does not like. Among them, Hezbollah and Iran. Also all of the US's traditional allies would go berserk over aligning with Assad. Basically Syria is a quagmire that found itself in the middle of a geopolitical conflict. It's not a good place to be. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4315 Posts
On April 09 2017 03:17 GreenHorizons wrote: Can anyone give me an explanation as to why/how Trump haphazardly wielding Americas military went from being a "threat to humanity" to "another Friday" among so many Democrats? I think it's because far more democrats trust mainstream media (Gallup polls) and MSM has been gushing with praise for Trump since the bombing. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On April 09 2017 08:32 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: I think it's because far more democrats trust mainstream media (Gallup polls) and MSM has been gushing with praise for Trump since the bombing. well a lot of Democrats still wanted something done about Syria. and it looks really bad to be criticizing a small strike (similar to what some of Obama's people wanted him to do) in response to a chemical weapons attack. As far as I've seen every democrat has basically said we need congressional authorization from here on out and an actual plan. And then a bunch of them have been taking potshots at the travel/muslim ban. They probably realize that now would be a bad time politically to start being too critical and calling it illegal. People like Lieu and Frum (who's not a democrat obviously) have been critical and raising that point but their not really in a position too much to have to worry about it. Plus when you've been criticizing for the whole American first approach it's weird to criticize the president for not doing something like that. Also the fact that a lot of Human rights groups are praising the attack further complicates it. I'd say it's more of a wait and see approach. | ||
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zlefin
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On April 09 2017 08:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: A lot of politics these past few years and this particular election cycle has been nothing but pots calling kettles black. I don't see that changing any time soon unless Trump goes overboard (just a matter of time), to the point where something will have to change. isn't that all politics all the time? what makes you think the recent stuff has more of that than is generally the case? | ||
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Any news or opinions out there on the US/Russia meeting? | ||
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zlefin
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On April 09 2017 09:18 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Nothing at all. It was an attempt to try and move the conversation towards something else. Also, I just find it funny how quick the right has forgotten what it did for 8 years and tries to pretend that Obama wasn't the President that they profusely blocked and belittled at every turn they got. Any news or opinions out there on the US/Russia meeting? what meeting? I haven't heard anything about a meeting. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Only real news I heard was that people were complaining that Tillerson didn't want to meet with the opposition parties in Russia on his visit. But that isn't particularly recent news. | ||
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson spoke by phone on Saturday about the situation in Syria after the U.S. strikes on a Syrian air base, the Russian ministry said in a statement. Lavrov pointed out that "an attack on a country whose government fights terrorism only plays into the hands of extremists, creates additional threats to regional and global security," the Russian ministry said. He also told Tillerson that assertions that the Syrian military used chemical weapon in Idlib province on April 4 do not correspond to reality, the ministry added. It said Lavrov and his U.S. counterpart agreed to continue discussions on Syria in person. Tillerson is expected in Moscow for talks with Russian officials next week. Source | ||
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zlefin
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wouldn't expect anything to come of the other discussions, other than maybe a few details on deconfliction and some minor stuff. | ||
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LegalLord
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 09 2017 10:23 LegalLord wrote: I just saw this twit from the president and thought that perchance it would be a good chance to free associate about what the fuck he's trying to say here. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/850785347038576640 ...when he ordered missiles strikes at air bases, did he think that meant runway asphalt? | ||
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Nyxisto
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I guess the important part of the strike was the political message. If he seriously wants to take out Assad I don't think one strike is going to cut it. | ||
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