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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 26 2017 02:13 GMT
#139521
On February 26 2017 11:09 Gahlo wrote:
Another "Say that you love me!" survey.

I actually thought a few of those were good ideas.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 26 2017 02:16 GMT
#139522
On February 26 2017 11:13 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2017 11:09 Gahlo wrote:
Another "Say that you love me!" survey.

I actually thought a few of those were good ideas.

Agreed, at least in theory.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 26 2017 02:25 GMT
#139523
Who is Nils Bildt? is this generations Who is John Galt.
In a segment on Fox News's “The O'Reilly Factor” that aired Thursday, host Bill O'Reilly spoke with two Swedish nationals about allegations that Sweden had become a more dangerous place in recent years because of immigration.

One guest, Swedish journalist Anne-Sofie Naslund of the Expressen newspaper, pushed back against O'Reilly's comments, suggesting that her country was far safer than it was being presented.

However, the next guest disagreed.

Nils Bildt, billed as a “Swedish defense and national security advisor” by Fox News, told O'Reilly that Naslund was “rather incorrect” and that there had been big problems with integrating immigrants into Swedish society. “These things are not being openly and honestly discussed,” Bildt said.

It was only a brief segment, but it quickly caused controversy back in Sweden, where reporters and experts suggested that Bildt was unknown within the Swedish national security world.


The Dagens Nyheter newspaper reported Friday that neither the Swedish armed forces nor the Foreign Ministry had heard of Bildt. Johan Wiktorin, a fellow at the Royal Swedish Academy of War Sciences, took to Twitter to suggest he had not heard of Bildt either.


On Twitter, a number of Swedes mocked Fox News's decision to book Bildt.



But who is Nils Bildt? Dagens Nyheter reported that Bildt had in fact emigrated from Sweden in 1994 and that he was originally named Nils Tolling. The newspaper also said Bildt had been convicted of a violent offense while living in Virginia and was given a one-year prison sentence in 2014.

Reached via email, Bildt initially said that he did not dispute anything in the Dagens Nyheter report, though he noted that he had not chosen the title with which he was attributed by Fox News. “I made clear that I am an independent analyst,” Bildt said. Later, he followed up to dispute the claim he had served time in prison.

“Had I spent a year in prison, I would think I would remember it,” Bildt said.

The surname Bildt is well-known in Swedish political circles due to Carl Bildt, the former Swedish prime minister and Swedish foreign minister. Nils Bildt said that he was related to Carl Bildt, who he described as a "most decent and good man." However, when contacted by WorldViews, Carl Bildt noted that his brother, a successful Swedish entrepreneur who is also called Nils, was "highly irritated" when he heard Nils Tolling had began using the surname Bildt. Carl Bildt suggested that the former Nils Tolling had been "trying to use the name to gain favors."

The Bildt who Fox News interviewed is listed as one of the founding partners of Modus World LLC. The company, which says it is based in Washington, Brussels and Tokyo, offers a variety of consulting services, including the “operations and management of possible kidnap and ransom situations,” according to its website, and reports in the Japanese media suggest Bildt was involved a number of hostage negotiations involving Japanese citizens.

David Tabacoff, executive producer of “The O'Reilly Factor,” defended the decision to book Bildt. “Our booker made numerous inquiries and spoke to people who recommended Nils Bildt and after pre-interviewing him and reviewing his bio, we agreed that he would make a good guest for the topic that evening,” Tabacoff said in a statement. (Fox News later said O'Reilly would address the matter on his Monday show.)

However, Bildt's low profile made him a surprising choice, according to Swedish experts. Robert Egnell, a professor at Swedish Defence University, told WorldViews that he did know Bildt, but it was only by chance: The pair had studied together at King’s College London in 2002.

Egnell said that Bildt had left the program early and moved to Japan, after which they had gradually lost touch. “He is in not in any way a known quantity in Sweden and has never been part of the Swedish debate,” Egnell said in an email “He has not lived in Sweden for a very long time and no one within the Swedish security community (which is not a very big pond) seems to know him.”


Fox News's coverage of Sweden has become a subject of debate over the past week, after President Trump referred to “what’s happening” in the country during a rally in Florida last weekend. Swedish experts were confused by the comments, but Trump later clarified he had been referring to a segment with filmmaker Ami Horowitz that had aired on Fox News Channel's “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

Horowitz's film had suggested a link between refugees and increased crime rates in Sweden, but Swedish experts say he oversimplified the problem, and two policemen interviewed by the filmmaker said they had been misrepresented by him.

Speaking to Dagens Nyheter, security expert Wiktorin had suggested Bildt's interview was a “disturbing trend” in U.S. media where Sweden is presented as a “problem country.”





https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/25/who-is-nils-bildt-swedish-national-security-advisor-interviewed-by-fox-news-is-a-mystery-to-swedes/
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 26 2017 02:37 GMT
#139524
Nils Trolling?
Bora Pain minha porra!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 02:42:55
February 26 2017 02:42 GMT
#139525
On February 26 2017 09:35 Simberto wrote:
You should realize that this time around, you are going to have a hard time finding ANYONE to help you. A lot of countries helped you in Afghanistan. A few helped you in Iraq. If you randomly invade another country in the region for no apparent reason, you are going to have to do it alone.

Just remember how much fun iraq was. And then don't do it again. Just...don't.

With Trump never saying anything negative about Russia or Putin, and Rex Tillerson as secretary as state, who has the Russian Order of Friendship and worked with Exxon and Rosneft, I have an idea who could be an ally interested in sharing oil profits and caring nothing for persian lives.
Neosteel Enthusiast
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 26 2017 02:47 GMT
#139526
On February 26 2017 11:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2017 09:35 Simberto wrote:
You should realize that this time around, you are going to have a hard time finding ANYONE to help you. A lot of countries helped you in Afghanistan. A few helped you in Iraq. If you randomly invade another country in the region for no apparent reason, you are going to have to do it alone.

Just remember how much fun iraq was. And then don't do it again. Just...don't.

With Trump never saying anything negative about Russia or Putin, and Rex Tillerson as secretary as state, who has the Russian Order of Friendship and worked with Exxon and Rosneft, I have an idea who could be an ally interested in sharing oil profits and caring nothing for persian lives.

Russia certainly isn't going to help the fight against Iran. If anything they would give Iran weapons and say "here, please destroy the US's military superpower status for us kthx."
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 03:19:08
February 26 2017 03:17 GMT
#139527
Curious what the people who actually care about the DNC chair election think about this op-ed.

Tomorrow the Democratic National Committee (DNC) will have to choose the direction of the Democratic Party, as well as its likely composition. It will be among the most important choices the DNC has ever had to make.

There has been powerful push from the hard-left of the Democratic Party, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), to elect Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) chairman. If he is elected, I will quit the party after 60 years of loyal association and voting. I will become an independent, continuing to vote for the best candidates, most of whom, I assume, will still be Democrats. But I will not contribute to the DNC or support it as an institution.

My loyalty to my country and my principles and my heritage exceeds any loyalty to my party. I will urge other like-minded people — centrist liberals — to follow my lead and quit the Democratic Party if Ellison is elected chairman. We will not be leaving the Democratic Party we have long supported. The Democratic Party will be leaving us!



Let me explain the reasons for this difficult decision.

Ellison has a long history of sordid association with anti-Semitism. He worked with and repeatedly defended one of a handful of the most notorious and public anti-Semites in our country: The Reverend Louis Farrakhan. And worked with Farrakhan at the very time this anti-Semite was publicly describing Judaism as a “gutter religion” and insisting that the Jews were a primary force in the African slave trade.

...

With regard to Israel, Ellison was one of only a small number of Congress people who recently voted against funding the Iron Dome, a missile system used by Israel to protect its civilians against rocket attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah. His voting record with regard to the Nation State of the Jewish people is among the very worst in Congress.

Ellison is now on an apology tour as he runs for DNC chairman, but his apologies and renunciations of his past association with anti-Semitism have been tactical and timed to his political aspirations.

...

The DNC has a momentous choice this weekend. It can move the party in the direction of Jeremy Corbyn’s labor party in England, in the hope of attracting Jill Stein Green Party voters and millennials who stayed home. In doing so they would be giving up on any attempt to recapture the working class and rust-belt voters in the mid-western states that turned the Electoral College over to Donald Trump.

Jeremy Corbyn today could not get elected dog catcher in Great Britain. I do not want to see the Democratic Party relegated to permanent minority status as a hard-left fringe.

Remember what happened when the Democrats moved left by nominating George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis — all good men. The total combined electoral votes for these candidates would not have won a single election. There is no reason to think the country has moved so far to the left since those days that the Democrats can win by pushing even further in the direction of the hard left. The self-destructive election of Keith Ellison will be hard to undo for many years.

So, tomorrow, the Democrats must choose between electing Ellison or keeping centrist liberals, who support Israel, like me and many others in their party. I hope they choose wisely. But if they do not, I have made my choice.

Source
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 03:28:11
February 26 2017 03:23 GMT
#139528
I think strategically this is correct, people shouldn't just assume that something that works on the right also works for the left, typically this one upping with extreme fractions seems to lead to splintering on the left. Corbyn is a good example. Doesn't mean anything if 30% of the country love you to death, will never get you elected.

Also if the anti-Semitic stuff is correct this would've been a pretty terrible choice.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 26 2017 03:37 GMT
#139529
I liked Buttigieg in the brief bit of the DNC chair debate I was able to catch the other night. I think he has a future on the national level in some way down the road. I'm sure I disagree with him significantly on policy ideas (as I do with most Dems) but he was someone I actually liked.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12421 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 04:28:23
February 26 2017 04:25 GMT
#139530
It's a fairly terrible oped, LL. You've got all the makings of a bad faith argument in them. An accusation of antisemitism based on positions for which he has apologized years ago ("tactically" so? Why? No explanation, just because it says so I guess. Didn't stop him from being one of the first congressmen to back a jew for president this time around but hey, what do I know) and an opposition to the political entity Israel, that I find natural and rational.

Then a completely random comparison to Corbyn to pretend that the Sanders wing will always be an opposition party if it chooses that road, ignoring that all progressive positions are supported by over 50% of the american people if you don't use specific trigger words to describe them AND ignoring that more young people voted for Bernie than they did for Hillary and Trump combined which suggests a bright future for leftwing ideals in this generation, something that cannot be said of England.

I'm of the mind that in the specific case of political writings, we should never assume someone is stupid when dishonesty explains his position just as well, so that's what I'm going with here.
No will to live, no wish to die
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 26 2017 04:31 GMT
#139531
I got an impression that was something similar. Sounds like the establishment wing felt Ellison was some sort of existential threat (the question of "why" escapes me) and they wanted to cajole people into opposing him. Then again, this was the group that would support DWS for anything short of the Russians forcing the issue so they aren't known for any form of thinking that isn't self-serving greed.

Hillary 2020! Let's make electable, electable again!
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12421 Posts
February 26 2017 04:44 GMT
#139532
Well, they're liberals. Democratic socialists and liberals tend to disagree pretty often. If you are ultraliberal (in that context, that means to the right of liberals), I can see why you wouldn't want your party to become democratic socialist much like I can see why GH doesn't want to vote for liberals by default because he's been told that's what he has to do. Those positions are sane and understandable in themselves though, there's no real reason to use bullshit like this to defend them, except of course to sway others in a dishonest fashion.
No will to live, no wish to die
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 26 2017 04:54 GMT
#139533
On February 26 2017 12:17 LegalLord wrote:
Curious what the people who actually care about the DNC chair election think about this op-ed.

Show nested quote +
Tomorrow the Democratic National Committee (DNC) will have to choose the direction of the Democratic Party, as well as its likely composition. It will be among the most important choices the DNC has ever had to make.

There has been powerful push from the hard-left of the Democratic Party, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), to elect Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) chairman. If he is elected, I will quit the party after 60 years of loyal association and voting. I will become an independent, continuing to vote for the best candidates, most of whom, I assume, will still be Democrats. But I will not contribute to the DNC or support it as an institution.

My loyalty to my country and my principles and my heritage exceeds any loyalty to my party. I will urge other like-minded people — centrist liberals — to follow my lead and quit the Democratic Party if Ellison is elected chairman. We will not be leaving the Democratic Party we have long supported. The Democratic Party will be leaving us!



Let me explain the reasons for this difficult decision.

Ellison has a long history of sordid association with anti-Semitism. He worked with and repeatedly defended one of a handful of the most notorious and public anti-Semites in our country: The Reverend Louis Farrakhan. And worked with Farrakhan at the very time this anti-Semite was publicly describing Judaism as a “gutter religion” and insisting that the Jews were a primary force in the African slave trade.

...

With regard to Israel, Ellison was one of only a small number of Congress people who recently voted against funding the Iron Dome, a missile system used by Israel to protect its civilians against rocket attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah. His voting record with regard to the Nation State of the Jewish people is among the very worst in Congress.

Ellison is now on an apology tour as he runs for DNC chairman, but his apologies and renunciations of his past association with anti-Semitism have been tactical and timed to his political aspirations.

...

The DNC has a momentous choice this weekend. It can move the party in the direction of Jeremy Corbyn’s labor party in England, in the hope of attracting Jill Stein Green Party voters and millennials who stayed home. In doing so they would be giving up on any attempt to recapture the working class and rust-belt voters in the mid-western states that turned the Electoral College over to Donald Trump.

Jeremy Corbyn today could not get elected dog catcher in Great Britain. I do not want to see the Democratic Party relegated to permanent minority status as a hard-left fringe.

Remember what happened when the Democrats moved left by nominating George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis — all good men. The total combined electoral votes for these candidates would not have won a single election. There is no reason to think the country has moved so far to the left since those days that the Democrats can win by pushing even further in the direction of the hard left. The self-destructive election of Keith Ellison will be hard to undo for many years.

So, tomorrow, the Democrats must choose between electing Ellison or keeping centrist liberals, who support Israel, like me and many others in their party. I hope they choose wisely. But if they do not, I have made my choice.

Source

Sorry about that decade of antisemitism guys, please be my friend now! I was young and naive I promise!

Whatever. Someone else in Hillary's used pantsuits 2020. Less open disdain, more closeted disdain for person opposing establishment's preferred. Pray you get some bright figures in state legislatures and the house in 2018 because y'all look tired.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23772 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 05:36:28
February 26 2017 05:28 GMT
#139534
I mean I don't know what I expected when I turned it on and they didn't even think to have someone besides Donna do the actual chairing of the meeting.

Everyone in that room knows she cheated (many of them before she was made interim chair) and CNN canned her for it, but, they don't seem to be bothered, Perez even asked for a round of applause for her during his calls for unity.

This on the heels of voting not to reinstate the ban Obama placed at the DNC on corporate lobbyists. Where Perez supporters were either woefully uninformed or intentionally misleading asking absurd questions as if the ban would stop them from having the same members they had right up until DWS dropped the ban for Hillary.

So after having someone everyone knows cheated, some put her as the head of the DNC knowing she cheated, chaired the meeting that they wanted to unify us in, after forcing Perez into a position he had no need to take over Ellison (which he apparently doesn't know the basics of how to chair a meeting), and the ban, and everything else. We're the unreasonable ones, because we want full throated support of things like medicare for all, which is more popular than both repealing and keeping the ACA.

Damn purists! ...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 13:21:26
February 26 2017 13:21 GMT
#139535
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/us-billionaire-mercer-helped-back-brexit
The US billionaire who helped bankroll Donald Trump’s campaign for the presidency played a key role in the campaign for Britain to leave the EU, the Observer has learned.

It has emerged that Robert Mercer, a hedge-fund billionaire, who helped to finance the Trump campaign and who was revealed this weekend as one of the owners of the rightwing Breitbart News Network, is a long-time friend of Nigel Farage. He directed his data analytics firm to provide expert advice to the Leave campaign on how to target swing voters via Facebook – a donation of services that was not declared to the electoral commission.

Cambridge Analytica, an offshoot of a British company, SCL Group, which has 25 years’ experience in military disinformation campaigns and “election management”, claims to use cutting-edge technology to build intimate psychometric profiles of voters to find and target their emotional triggers. Trump’s team paid the firm more than $6m (£4.8m) to target swing voters, and it has now emerged that Mercer also introduced the firm – in which he has a major stake – to Farage.

The communications director of Leave.eu, Andy Wigmore, told the Observer that the longstanding friendship between Nigel Farage and the Mercer family led Mercer to offer his help – free – to the Brexit campaign because of their shared goals. Wigmore said that he introduced Farage and Leave.eu to Cambridge Analytica: “They were happy to help. Because Nigel is a good friend of the Mercers. And Mercer introduced them to us. He said, ‘Here’s this company we think may be useful to you’. What they were trying to do in the US and what we were trying to do had massive parallels. We shared a lot of information.” + Show Spoiler +
The strategy involved harvesting data from people’s Facebook and other social media profiles and then using machine learning to “spread” through their networks. Wigmore admitted the technology and the level of information it gathered from people was “creepy”. He said the campaign used this information, combined with artificial intelligence, to decide who to target with highly individualised advertisements and had built a database of more than a million people, based on advice Cambridge Analytica supplied. Two weeks ago Arron Banks, Leave.eu’s founder, stated in a series of tweets that Gerry Gunster (Leave.eu’s pollster) and Cambridge Analytica with “world class” AI had helped them gain “unprecedented levels of engagement”. “AI won it for Leave,” he said.

By law, all donations of services-in-kind worth more than £7,500 must be reported to the electoral commission. A spokesman said that no donation from the company or Mercer to Leave.eu had been filed.

Brittany Kaiser, an employee of Cambridge Analytica/SCL, appeared on a panel at a Leave.eu press conference to explain the technology behind the campaign. And in documents Leave.eu filed with the commission, it reported that Cambridge Analytica was “a strategic partner”.The Observer reported in December that Cambridge Analytica had worked on the Leave campaign and received a letter from the campaign to say this was untrue. It later wrote to say: “It is a US company based in the US. It hasn’t worked in British politics.” It declined to comment last week on whether it had donated services to Leave.eu.

Leave.eu declined to say why it had not declared any donation of services to the electoral commission.

Mercer – and his daughter Rebekah – are emerging as key figures in the ascendancy of Trump and, as the Observer details today, the strategic disruption of the mainstream media. A brilliant computer scientist who did pioneering work at IBM in AI, Mercer made billions with Renaissance Technologies, a hedge-fund that specialises in automated trading. As well as financing Trump’s campaign, he encouraged Trump to take on two key advisers – Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway – and on Saturday the Washington Post revealed him as one of the owners of Breitbart. Bannon’s role within the Trump administration is being increasingly examined but, until now, Mercer’s connection has escaped the same sort of close scrutiny – particularly with regard to the media.

Breitbart, which has become the leading platform for the alt-right, is only one of a series of investments that aim to change the media landscape and political views not just in the US but also in Britain. A British version of Breitbart was launched in 2014, Bannon told the New York Times, explicitly to try to influence the upcoming general election. He and Farage have been close friends since at least 2012 and the site has been an important cheerleader for Ukip, with its editor, Raheem Kassam, at one point working as chief adviser to Farage.

Until now, however, it was not known that Mercer had explicitly tried to influence the outcome of the referendum. Drawing on Cambridge Analytica’s advice, Leave.eu built up a huge database of supporters creating detailed profiles of their lives through open-source data it harvested via Facebook. The campaign then sent thousands of different versions of advertisements to people depending on what it had learned of their personalities.

A leading expert on the impact of technology on elections called the relevation “extremely disturbing and quite sinister”. Martin Moore, of King’s College London, said that “undisclosed support-in-kind is extremely troubling. It undermines the whole basis of our electoral system, that we should have a level playing field”.

But details of how people were being targeted with this technology raised more serious questions, he said. “We have no idea what people were being shown or not, which makes it frankly sinister. Maybe it wasn’t, but we have no way of knowing. There is no possibility of public scrutiny. I find this extremely worrying and disturbing.”
in weird ways i find it ironic; but mostly this(the means and ability to do it), was predicted a long time ago.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2017 13:27 GMT
#139536
Brave New World and Robocop seem less over the top every day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2017 15:26 GMT
#139537


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 16:44:13
February 26 2017 16:43 GMT
#139538
Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, is facing growing political pressure to address the steady stream of asylum seekers who have been braving freezing temperatures, fields of waist-deep snow and icy ditches to cross into Canada from the US by foot.

Recent months have seen a growing number of people entering Canada at remote, unguarded locations along the US border. Doing so allows the migrants – many of whom are desperate to flee Trump’s crackdown on immigration – to skirt a longstanding pact that bars most refugee claimants in the US from applying for asylum in Canada.

Advocates in Manitoba say they know of some 139 refugees – including children – who have made the perilous crossing since the start of the year, while groups in Quebec, British Columbia and Ontario also report a rise in irregular crossings.

Some haul suitcases for hours across frozen fields that straddle the border, while others are dropped by taxis metres away from the Quebec border. The asylum seekers – many of whom are from Somalia, Ghana and Djibouti – say their actions are driven by fears of what a Donald Trump presidency could mean for refugees in the US.

As photos of Canadian police smiling as they greeted migrants made the rounds on social media, Trudeau said this week that the government would not seek to stem irregular migration along the US border.

“One of the reasons why Canada remains an open country is Canadians trust our immigration system and the integrity of our borders and the help we provide people who are looking for safety,” Trudeau told parliament. “We will continue to strike that balance between a rigorous system and accepting people who need help.”

Amid concerns that the number of people attempting the crossing could spike as the weather warms, the opposition Conservatives have called on Trudeau and his government to do more to halt the flow of irregular migrants.

Conservative MP Steven Blaney urged Canadian officials to hand over irregular migrants to US authorities while his colleague Candice Bergen highlighted concerns about safety. “People running across farmers’ fields illegally cannot continue,” Bergen said recently. “It is not safe for the people who are running across the fields. It is not safe for the community.”

In the small border town of Emerson, Manitoba – where dozens of refugee claimants have arrived in recent months – Conservative MP Ted Falk pointed to the town’s stretched resources. Emerson’s emergency response team and volunteer firefighting crew have been regularly woken in the middle of the night to help the asylum seekers, Falk said in a video posted to social media.

“We all know that Canada is generous and accepting,” he added. “But we also need to ensure that the integrity of our borders is protected and that we look after our national security. We need to know who is coming into our country, where they’re coming in and why.”

The progressive New Democratic party has repeatedly called on Trudeau’s government to immediately suspend the agreement that prohibits most migrants in the US from making a refugee claim at Canada’s official border crossings.

Under the 2004 Safe Third Country Agreement between Canada and the US, migrants must apply for asylum in the first country in which they arrive. The agreement is applied at official land, train and airport border crossings.

Advocates say the agreement is leading migrants to instead attempt to enter Canada at isolated, unguarded locations. Once they reach Canadian soil, the agreement no longer applies. The migrants, often disoriented and cold, are apprehended by police and have the right to make a refugee claim and have it heard by Canadian authorities.

The agreement hinges on the idea that the US is a safe country for refugees – an assumption that clashes with the stark reality of the Trump administration, said New Democratic MP Jenny Kwan. “When you have a country that has declared that you’re banned, that you’re not welcome and we don’t want you, and because of where you come from, because of your race and because of your religion, do you feel safe there?” Kwan recently told parliament.


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Last Edited: 2017-02-26 19:28:20
February 26 2017 19:27 GMT
#139539
Another plot to mask the big election defeat foiled by Donald



Seriously though what does he even mean with 'mask the big election defeat'. Is there a movement that's saying the Dems didn't lose?
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February 26 2017 19:29 GMT
#139540
This will put Trump in a meltdown.

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