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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
January 20 2017 17:04 GMT
#131981
Good luck Mr. President!
Dating thread on TL LUL
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2017 17:04 GMT
#131982
Haha, Trump. Going right into attacking the establishment.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 20 2017 17:05 GMT
#131983
On January 21 2017 02:04 xDaunt wrote:
Haha, Trump. Going right into attacking the establishment.

I feel like this will bite him in the ass at some point lol
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
January 20 2017 17:07 GMT
#131984
On January 21 2017 01:13 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2017 00:58 LegalLord wrote:
Even if Russia were to take all of East Europe successfully without any retaliation, that would be little more than an expensive addition to its payroll.

I'd draw the analogy of Mexico: the US wouldn't bother to annex Mexico even though it probably could, because it's just more trouble than it's worth. But it would be pretty pissed if foreign nations came and set up anti-American alliances in Mexico.

With the exception that they did it not once but several times. And the exception that in that analogy, Mexico, after being liberated, would ask foreign countries to help defending itself. Suddenly quite a different picture. But understandable, given the presumption that you have no academic background in studying the region. This leap of logic is quite common, especially in, funnily enough, Russia, and far less anywhere else!

NATO happens to be big deal. Not exactly just an "expensive addition."

@Mohdoo:
Show nested quote +
They would defend "actual" Europe. If Putin tried to snatch Finland and Sweden, the US would intervene. But at the end of the day, Russia really just doesn't have any reasonable cost:benefit prospects regarding taking over other countries right now.

Arguable. Finland is not in NATO. Neither is Sweden. Annexing them is easier, defence agreements wise, than NATO memebers like Estonia.


I would argue Finland and Sweden are unofficial NATO members with regards to %chance of being defended. Russia taking Finland and Sweden would be a complete nightmare for everyone bordering Sweden and Finland. Similar to China keeping NK as a buffer, if Sweden and Finland were in any danger, European countries would fight hard to make sure that barrier never fell.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 20 2017 17:07 GMT
#131985
Still awkward to me seeing this insanely rich man talk about struggling families
Neosteel Enthusiast
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2017 17:08 GMT
#131986
The hilarious part about this speech is that I'm pretty sure that the Obamas are still standing right behind Trump.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10697 Posts
January 20 2017 17:10 GMT
#131987
This is the first time that i would like to see Twitchchat.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
January 20 2017 17:11 GMT
#131988
And now begins scary nationalism.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 17:13:56
January 20 2017 17:12 GMT
#131989
Such an awful speech

Like America has anything to worry about on their borders
Neosteel Enthusiast
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 20 2017 17:12 GMT
#131990
Is he fully improvising ? He nerver looks down to look at potential notes
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2017 17:12 GMT
#131991
On January 21 2017 02:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Is he fully improvising ? He nerver looks down to look at potential notes

It's the wonders of the teleprompter.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2017 17:13 GMT
#131992
So does anyone still doubt how serious Trump was about what he campaigned on?
frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
January 20 2017 17:13 GMT
#131993
Anyone else catch that Rick-roll?
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
January 20 2017 17:14 GMT
#131994
On January 21 2017 02:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2017 01:13 mustaju wrote:
On January 21 2017 00:58 LegalLord wrote:
Even if Russia were to take all of East Europe successfully without any retaliation, that would be little more than an expensive addition to its payroll.

I'd draw the analogy of Mexico: the US wouldn't bother to annex Mexico even though it probably could, because it's just more trouble than it's worth. But it would be pretty pissed if foreign nations came and set up anti-American alliances in Mexico.

With the exception that they did it not once but several times. And the exception that in that analogy, Mexico, after being liberated, would ask foreign countries to help defending itself. Suddenly quite a different picture. But understandable, given the presumption that you have no academic background in studying the region. This leap of logic is quite common, especially in, funnily enough, Russia, and far less anywhere else!

NATO happens to be big deal. Not exactly just an "expensive addition."

@Mohdoo:
They would defend "actual" Europe. If Putin tried to snatch Finland and Sweden, the US would intervene. But at the end of the day, Russia really just doesn't have any reasonable cost:benefit prospects regarding taking over other countries right now.

Arguable. Finland is not in NATO. Neither is Sweden. Annexing them is easier, defence agreements wise, than NATO memebers like Estonia.


I would argue Finland and Sweden are unofficial NATO members with regards to %chance of being defended. Russia taking Finland and Sweden would be a complete nightmare for everyone bordering Sweden and Finland. Similar to China keeping NK as a buffer, if Sweden and Finland were in any danger, European countries would fight hard to make sure that barrier never fell.

I agree that they have similar chance of being defended, but defending against a nuclear country comes with major risks. The louder non-interventionists are, the less likely a defense will be as well. This is part of why I believe psychological defense against invasion is incredibly important.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 17:14:23
January 20 2017 17:14 GMT
#131995
On January 21 2017 02:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Such a awful speech

Like America has anything to worry about on their borders

I am lurking in the shadows waiting to take your jobs bro

as many as I can get my hands on.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 20 2017 17:14 GMT
#131996
On January 21 2017 02:13 xDaunt wrote:
So does anyone still doubt how serious Trump was about what he campaigned on?

sorry I can't hear you over the collective thud of erections on tables across the south.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 20 2017 17:14 GMT
#131997
On January 21 2017 02:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2017 02:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Is he fully improvising ? He nerver looks down to look at potential notes

It's the wonders of the teleprompter.

Uh OK, strange that the guys before (the NY and Missouri senators) didn't have it
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2017 17:15 GMT
#131998
On January 21 2017 02:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2017 02:12 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2017 02:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Is he fully improvising ? He nerver looks down to look at potential notes

It's the wonders of the teleprompter.

Uh OK, strange that the guys before (the NY and Missouri senators) didn't have it

Oh no, they used the same teleprompter.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2017 17:16 GMT
#131999
Trump is taking a massive shit on all things that the democrats and establishment republicans stand for. What a way to start off his presidency.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 20 2017 17:16 GMT
#132000
On January 21 2017 02:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2017 02:12 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2017 02:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Is he fully improvising ? He nerver looks down to look at potential notes

It's the wonders of the teleprompter.

Uh OK, strange that the guys before (the NY and Missouri senators) didn't have it


They did.
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