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Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 15:26:22
November 09 2016 15:20 GMT
#122541
When can I expect to see more detailed statistics about turnout, age, gender etc. ?

Nvm theyre available already
You're now breathing manually
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
November 09 2016 15:21 GMT
#122542
Found a stream.

@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
November 09 2016 15:25 GMT
#122543
The question is, will she go to jail according to Trump? :D
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 15:25 GMT
#122544
Clinton better not wuss out on her concession speech. Trump basically shat all over her entire life's work and a whole ton of people just voted for an openly racist/sexist man. If the speech is cordial and about unity (which it will be) I'll be so pissed.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 15:28:23
November 09 2016 15:26 GMT
#122545
On November 10 2016 00:25 Logo wrote:
Clinton better not wuss out on her concession speech. Trump basically shat all over her entire life's work and a whole ton of people just voted for an openly racist/sexist man. If the speech is cordial and about unity (which it will be) I'll be so pissed.


Before you continue that line of thought, please listen to this:



It's time to put the election behind you. Big whoops, there's another pig in the White House. The democrats had one in the 90s named Clinton, now he's a republican named Trump.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 15:27:49
November 09 2016 15:27 GMT
#122546
On November 10 2016 00:25 Logo wrote:
Clinton better not wuss out on her concession speech. Trump basically shat all over her entire life's work and a whole ton of people just voted for an openly racist/sexist man. If the speech is cordial and about unity (which it will be) I'll be so pissed.



Ya that would be a disappointment indeed. I am hoping for a very salty speech,that will surely help the democrats in general. But it wont be,it will be a friendly non confrontational speech accepting her defeat and congratulating trump.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
November 09 2016 15:27 GMT
#122547
3rd June 2015 - Large Hadron Collider starts to operate at full power.
6th June 2015 - Trump announces candidacy
2016 - Everyone cool dies within a few weeks of each other. Britain shoots itself in the face. Trump wins presidency.

We need to turn that fucking thing off.

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Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
November 09 2016 15:27 GMT
#122548
On November 10 2016 00:10 oneofthem wrote:
why would she concede when sanders is a policy dunce of historic caliber and lost by millions of votes? get over yourself, or not, and keep fighting the establishment.

Guess what.
He couldn't have been worse than Hillary.
Because she lost against the worst candidate republicans have fielded in 50 years.
You are the policy dunce. You're the moron who thought that the current state of affairs just needed to be made more palatable to the idiotic masses.
You were wrong. This country didn't want to continue the slow decline that Hillary promised. This country didn't want more of the same shitbirds who got us here. Now we have Trump. Maybe if Hillary hadn't cheated her way through the primary collusion with news networks and the DNC we wouldn't have DONALD J TRUMP AS A PRESIDENT, but hey you said that was fine because she would get elected.
She didn't. Nobody wants your polished turd. There is literally nothing you can do to apologize the damage that you have done to minorities and the queer community in this country. A vote for Hillary in the primaries was a vote for Trump.
You made america great again.
Congratulations.


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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 09 2016 15:29 GMT
#122549
there's no convincing some agnry sanders people; in fact, there's no convincing most people in general on a rational basis, we just have to hope the convincing reasonable people are enough to sway the outcome.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 15:32:50
November 09 2016 15:31 GMT
#122550
On November 10 2016 00:29 zlefin wrote:
there's no convincing some agnry sanders people; in fact, there's no convincing most people in general on a rational basis, we just have to hope the convincing reasonable people are enough to sway the outcome.



You can convince those people,but you can not convince them by words alone. You have to convince them by actions that improve their every day live and by policies that matter to them on a small scale. They don't have those ideologic big dreams,no time for that when you are working 60 hours a week to just come by.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 09 2016 15:33 GMT
#122551
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.

I come in for the scraps
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 15:35 GMT
#122552
On November 10 2016 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.



So in your opinion Clinton not Trump was the one calling everyone names?
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 09 2016 15:36 GMT
#122553
What does Trump means in terms of foreigner policy? Cause u know, we got some nothern empire on borders and that's a bit scary.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 15:41:01
November 09 2016 15:38 GMT
#122554
On November 10 2016 00:35 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.



So in your opinion Clinton not Trump was the one calling everyone names?

I'm going to need your calm and collected recognition that Trump did not in fact "shit all over her life's work" and has instead publicly and presidentially thanked her for her valuable service. Thank you.

On November 10 2016 00:36 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
What does Trump means in terms of foreigner policy? Cause u know, we got some nothern empire on borders and that's a bit scary.

I think you're going to have to look to Europe for help. I'm willing to help at least, if that's any comfort. Just make sure your country listens to ALL of its citizens.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 15:40 GMT
#122555
On November 10 2016 00:38 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 00:35 Logo wrote:
On November 10 2016 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.



So in your opinion Clinton not Trump was the one calling everyone names?


I'm going to need your calm and collected recognition that Trump did not in fact "shit all over her life's work" and has instead publicly and presidentially thanked her for her valuable service. Thank you.


That's not an answer to my question.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
November 09 2016 15:40 GMT
#122556
On November 10 2016 00:36 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
What does Trump means in terms of foreigner policy? Cause u know, we got some nothern empire on borders and that's a bit scary.

Nobody's got a fucking clue, and that's the problem.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 09 2016 15:41 GMT
#122557
On November 10 2016 00:35 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.



So in your opinion Clinton not Trump was the one calling everyone names?


No, i'm referring to the people. The internet is a pretty liberal place and you literally couldn't escape the smugness. It was unbearable
I come in for the scraps
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
November 09 2016 15:43 GMT
#122558
On November 10 2016 00:36 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
What does Trump means in terms of foreigner policy? Cause u know, we got some nothern empire on borders and that's a bit scary.


We are all excited to find out. Supposedly he wants the US to be less world police, for the other NATO members to invest more in their own military, and for the world to generally be better at solving its issues collectively (or rather without the US). At the same time he has stated that if there is a problem he is willing to more or less carpet bomb the region. He has sent plenty of signals that he wants to smooth out relations with Putin and Russia, but again: how obviously remains to be seen.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
November 09 2016 15:44 GMT
#122559
On November 10 2016 00:40 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 00:38 a_flayer wrote:
On November 10 2016 00:35 Logo wrote:
On November 10 2016 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.



So in your opinion Clinton not Trump was the one calling everyone names?


I'm going to need your calm and collected recognition that Trump did not in fact "shit all over her life's work" and has instead publicly and presidentially thanked her for her valuable service. Thank you.


That's not an answer to my question.

I wasn't responding to your question. I was making a request because it became apparent to me that you were not ready to leave the election process behind you. It's done.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 15:44 GMT
#122560
On November 10 2016 00:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 00:35 Logo wrote:
On November 10 2016 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Democrats lost independents like me when they continued to focus on anything except their actual candidate. The smugness and constant name-calling got to an absurd point. Calling everyone that didn't support Clinton with you racist and sexist...Democrats were their own worst enemy this election.

Proof is in the pudding, Obama voters like myself decided this election.



So in your opinion Clinton not Trump was the one calling everyone names?


No, i'm referring to the people. The internet is a pretty liberal place and you literally couldn't escape the smugness. It was unbearable


Yeah liberals are painfully smug, but your line of reasoning is really off the rails here. If you surround yourself with annoying liberals that doesn't imply a) that their underlying candidate/belief is wrong or b) that the other side you aren't surrounding yourself with is doing the same thing. It sounds like you voted purely because you surrounded yourself with liberals instead of spending 8 months listening to people yell Trump that Bitch.
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