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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45041 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:50 m4ini wrote: I'm not certain. I'm sure she won't run in four years. At all.. I don't know, she knows the process of being a president, and what "it did" to Obama who aged 30 years in just 8. I actually don't even know how old she is, but i'm pretty sure the "longer she waits", the less likely it will be for her to run. I think she's happy that the presidency thing is over now, and at least to some degree "normality" will kick in. I agree with you. btw Barack is 55 and Michelle is 52. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4550 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:50 m4ini wrote: I'm not certain. I'm sure she won't run in four years. At all.. I don't know, she knows the process of being a president, and what "it did" to Obama who aged 30 years in just 8. I actually don't even know how old she is, but i'm pretty sure the "longer she waits", the less likely it will be for her to run. I think she's happy that the presidency thing is over now, and at least to some degree "normality" will kick in. She's 52 and I also think she has zero intention to go through this nightmare again. But who knows, perhaps the white house has a certain draw to it and she starts to miss it after 2-3 years. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45041 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That and Michelle Obama needs more experience i.e. terms as a Senator. Before Trump became president-elect, I would have agreed with you. As of right this second, Michelle Obama has more experience than Donald Trump. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
globalization benefits tend to be diffuse, whereas the downsides tend to be focused. e.g. if five thousand people lose their jobs they notice, whereas if that means everyone else gains $1, people may not notice or attribut ethat extra $1 to it. it's been well documented psychologically that people tend to notice and more strongly feel about losses compared to gains. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
id want someone who is nonpartisan, deeply committed to longterm american strategic interests and cares about the people. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That and Michelle Obama needs more experience i.e. terms as a Senator. .. eh? I think it's crystal clear that you don't need experience as senator etc to get elected. Again, not convinced she'd run either way, but considering what happened yesterday, .. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4954 Posts
So if it is not done, only members of opposing parties can run against the current president? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
(for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012) Maaaaybe if Trump completely abandons all his social conservative campaign promises or goes totally nuts someone will run and have a chance. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45041 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 Uldridge wrote: So now that a republican is president, can a republican campaign against him for the next elections, or is that not done/impossible/political suicide? I forget if a democrat ran against Obama in 2012.. So if it is not done, only members of opposing parties can run against the current president? If Trump is shitty, then I could easily imagine other Republicans (establishment ones) wanting to replace him in four years. Edit: Or Kanye West. | ||
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farvacola
United States18838 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 Uldridge wrote: So now that a republican is president, can a republican campaign against him for the next elections, or is that not done/impossible/political suicide? I forget if a democrat ran against Obama in 2012.. So if it is not done, only members of opposing parties can run against the current president? Trump is our president elect; anything can happen. Typically, only the opposing party runs a candidate against an incumbent president. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:53 oneofthem wrote: michelle is a fine orator and all but i dont know if she would generate the kind of conversation the country needs. id want someone who is nonpartisan, deeply committed to longterm american strategic interests and cares about the people. Nonpartisan in a two party system. That doesn't sound at all delusional. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 Uldridge wrote: So now that a republican is president, can a republican campaign against him for the next elections, or is that not done/impossible/political suicide? I forget if a democrat ran against Obama in 2012.. So if it is not done, only members of opposing parties can run against the current president? they dont have any real issues to pick with him. why fight when you can buy | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 Uldridge wrote: So now that a republican is president, can a republican campaign against him for the next elections, or is that not done/impossible/political suicide? I forget if a democrat ran against Obama in 2012.. So if it is not done, only members of opposing parties can run against the current president? it's perfectly legal and fin for others to go against him in the primary. In general it's often not done if the president has decent approval ratings, as the odds of beating an incumbent in the primary are terrible unless that incumbent has poor approval ratings. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9136 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/PeterRNeumann/status/796257632873025536 There is no 'leader of the free world' it's always been a self congratulatory but pointless term | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18114 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 Uldridge wrote: So now that a republican is president, can a republican campaign against him for the next elections, or is that not done/impossible/political suicide? I forget if a democrat ran against Obama in 2012.. So if it is not done, only members of opposing parties can run against the current president? Possible, but generally not done. If Trump fucks it up enough, it'll happen, though. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:57 m4ini wrote: Nonpartisan in a two party system. That doesn't sound at all delusional. it does not. the military is the only political institution of high crosscutting trust. a lot of senior leadership would make fine candidates | ||
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pmh
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zeo
Serbia6306 Posts
On November 09 2016 23:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/PeterRNeumann/status/796257632873025536 Cringe - the tweet User was warned for this post | ||
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