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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
November 09 2016 06:09 GMT
#121601
On November 09 2016 15:07 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:03 Danglars wrote:


Democrats lost it on minorities and boy did they bank on minorities. Sorry, illegal immigration hurts unskilled labor that already immigrated in before tomorrow's millions sneaking across the border.

Plansix needs to see this.

Plansix sitting in a corner wondering how Moloch could have forsaken them.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 09 2016 06:10 GMT
#121602
On November 09 2016 15:07 Yorbon wrote:
Hillary was the only candidate Trump actually had a chance against, imo. So far, about everything's going as expected.

I think we're being a little kind to Bernie who couldn't even convince Democrats to vote for him.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 06:11 GMT
#121603
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 09 2016 06:11 GMT
#121604
On November 09 2016 15:05 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:02 Djzapz wrote:
Is it foolish of me to worry about the possibility that the Trump presidency in concert with a republican legislature and a republican SCOTUS could be able to sufficiently modify the electoral map (or do some other sketchy shit) in order to not have to lose elections again.


You mean like get rid of the Voting Rights Act, implement voter ID laws, gerrymander the districts, deny territories a say in their government, and restrict voting hours/early voting?

It's a little late for that concern.


Those things (voter ID, congressional district maps, voting times/days/etc.) are all state and local issues - not federal.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 06:12 GMT
#121605
On November 09 2016 15:08 CatharsisUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/amyewalter/status/796229054672334849

Democrats lost it on minorities and boy did they bank on minorities. Sorry, illegal immigration hurts unskilled labor that already immigrated in before tomorrow's millions sneaking across the border.


I think those exits are unlikely to hold up. You just have to look at the racial makeup of the places where Trump out-performed the most to see that. Here, Nate Silver said it better than I did:

"The national exit poll shows Trump making bigger gains among black and Hispanic voters than among whites. But I’d urge at least a little caution. I know that exit polls aren’t supposed to be used for projecting results, but they did an awfully bad job tonight, initially showing what had looked like a near-landslide margin for Clinton. Furthermore, as compared with pre-election polls, Trump clearly overperformed the most in whiter states. So on second thought, maybe that’s a lot of caution and not just a little."

Caution is fine. I'm just weighing this against the repeated predictions that Trump purportedly being such a racist would hand hispanics over to Clinton and drive hispanic turnout. His talks on policing and the prison system would drive blacks in Obama-like numbers.

It shouldn't even be close. Look at any journalist in big national papers.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 09 2016 06:12 GMT
#121606
On November 09 2016 15:06 zeo wrote:
CNN blaming Russia now hahahahha :D

yeah, that was pretty hilarious.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 09 2016 06:12 GMT
#121607
Holy shit.. its a pretty big indictment of institutional failure when people vote for bigotry and demagoguery just for something different.

Please dont come to Canada.. cheers.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121608
If Bernie won, there would be no FBI investigation, no "my enemy belongs in prison," no DNC rigging, and probably no leaks. He would have been hammered for socialism and for being a hippie who supported dictators, but in contrast to Hillary fewer people would have such a strong visceral reaction to voting against him. I am quite sure he would have won.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121609
Stefan is Happy:

FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121610
On November 09 2016 15:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/dccommonsense/status/796194112974123008


I think you have two dozen people you can blame.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:14:36
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121611
On November 09 2016 15:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
My thoughts exactly.

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Exactly fucking this. I remember early on during the primaries how god damn stuck up the Hillary4President crowd were, talking shit and saying how they didn't want "BernieBros" to vote for their candidate.

There you fucking had it DNC. Stealing the primary ~ rigging it against Bernie, having superdelegates commit before any debating happened, having NewYorks need to register 6 months before debates started to vote in the primary..

Donna Brazil colluding with clinton. Their camp should have told Donna to get fucked and said "We are too proud to try and steal this."

Taking Wasserman Schultz onto the clinton camp. FUCK YOU.

God i'm so angry right now I'm not even speaking straight. Smug clinton assholes have fucked the people for months and now they are about to reap the damn consequences, and we are all going to suffer because of it.



Show nested quote +
Exactly. All I hear is if you don't vote for Clinton and allow trump to win, you're to blame for a trump presidency. How bout not? How bout fuck yourself? Hillary supporters and the DNC did nothing but make every effort possible yo exclude bernie voters because "she doesn't even need you." Yeah? How's your smug pride of "it's her turn" look now? You all fucking deserve trump, but those that actually didn't put the blinders on and actually tried to make objective change happen in this country do not. Fuck you Hillary supporters. Fuck the DNC.


https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/5by1wy/should_have_been_bernie/



There needs to be a purge of DNC right about now, and everyone who was ever tainted by association with the Clinton coterie needs to be fired. They single handedly awarded the election to Trump.
Envy fan since NTH.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:15:30
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121612
On November 09 2016 15:10 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:07 Yorbon wrote:
Hillary was the only candidate Trump actually had a chance against, imo. So far, about everything's going as expected.

I think we're being a little kind to Bernie who couldn't even convince Democrats to vote for him.
It's more pointing out both Trump's and Hillary's weakness.

On November 09 2016 15:13 LegalLord wrote:
If Bernie won, there would be no FBI investigation, no "my enemy belongs in prison," no DNC rigging, and probably no leaks. He would have been hammered for socialism and for being a hippie who supported dictators, but in contrast to Hillary fewer people would have such a strong visceral reaction to voting against him. I am quite sure he would have won.
This.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:14:55
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121613
Wow it's really frightening ... Trump almost won ? Can someone explain ? This is really gross.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:14:31
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121614
Any chance i can pick up one of these Newsweek "Madame President" magazine? I'm dead serious.
They printed the Clinton cover.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/11/08/newsweek-cover-madam-president-clinton_n_12861684.html
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
November 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#121615
On November 09 2016 15:04 LegalLord wrote:
Turnout overall looks pretty low. Possibly lower than 2012.


Wow, thats very surprising if true. Maybe liberals thought Trump already lost and there is no need to go out and vote.
You're now breathing manually
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
November 09 2016 06:14 GMT
#121616
On November 09 2016 15:12 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit.. its a pretty big indictment of institutional failure when people vote for bigotry and demagoguery just for something different.

Please dont come to Canada.. cheers.

Institutions failed to rigg the vote, its the saddest story of 2016
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
November 09 2016 06:14 GMT
#121617
Any chance the electoral college will do it's job and pick Hillary anyway, given how dangerous trump is to our country?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 06:14 GMT
#121618
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
November 09 2016 06:15 GMT
#121619
On November 09 2016 15:12 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit.. its a pretty big indictment of institutional failure when people vote for bigotry and demagoguery just for something different.

Please dont come to Canada.. cheers.


Stay in Canada! It's fucking awesome over here though. Cheers!
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
November 09 2016 06:15 GMT
#121620
@hunts I think there are too many risks with that plan. People would not take lightly to their choice being overturned.
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