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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 06:04 GMT
#121581
On November 09 2016 15:02 Djzapz wrote:
Is it foolish of me to worry about the possibility that the Trump presidency in concert with a republican legislature and a republican SCOTUS could be able to sufficiently modify the electoral map (or do some other sketchy shit) in order to not have to lose elections again.

It seems to me like we're in a spot where clearly something went way wrong and the US cornered itself into electing one of two candidates that is hated by a large proportion of the electorate. At this point I have to assume that if his presidency is as obscene as his campaign, the Democrats just have to find some random schmuck with a minimum of credibility and they'll take it in 2020.

Surely we can't get 8 years of this fucking mistake.


Trump might not go for re-election, and if life is good, they could win with someone like Paul Ryan.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 06:04 GMT
#121582
My thoughts exactly.

Exactly fucking this. I remember early on during the primaries how god damn stuck up the Hillary4President crowd were, talking shit and saying how they didn't want "BernieBros" to vote for their candidate.

There you fucking had it DNC. Stealing the primary ~ rigging it against Bernie, having superdelegates commit before any debating happened, having NewYorks need to register 6 months before debates started to vote in the primary..

Donna Brazil colluding with clinton. Their camp should have told Donna to get fucked and said "We are too proud to try and steal this."

Taking Wasserman Schultz onto the clinton camp. FUCK YOU.

God i'm so angry right now I'm not even speaking straight. Smug clinton assholes have fucked the people for months and now they are about to reap the damn consequences, and we are all going to suffer because of it.



Exactly. All I hear is if you don't vote for Clinton and allow trump to win, you're to blame for a trump presidency. How bout not? How bout fuck yourself? Hillary supporters and the DNC did nothing but make every effort possible yo exclude bernie voters because "she doesn't even need you." Yeah? How's your smug pride of "it's her turn" look now? You all fucking deserve trump, but those that actually didn't put the blinders on and actually tried to make objective change happen in this country do not. Fuck you Hillary supporters. Fuck the DNC.


https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/5by1wy/should_have_been_bernie/
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 06:04 GMT
#121583
Turnout overall looks pretty low. Possibly lower than 2012.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
November 09 2016 06:05 GMT
#121584
Im looking forward to Plansix and BiffTheUnderstudy speech as much as I'm looking forward to Trump speech.
sorry for dem one liners
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:06:39
November 09 2016 06:05 GMT
#121585
On November 09 2016 15:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:56 m4ini wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:49 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:43 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Well, as it turns out, white people can't be marginalized politically in America quite yet.

I don't see what the big deal is, Trump's not gonna get re-elected. Neither would Hillary. And the United States of America is too large and strong and rich a country and a people to get completely wrekt by either of them.


Most people are super dramatic about these kind of things. For the majority of the population, their day to day lives will not change at all. And yeah, this election sets up anyone to easily take the 2020 election.


You know, I wonder how many times throughout history have said, "This won't really change anything", only to have their country/empire/whatever collapse as a consequence of who comes into power. I'm sure we can think of at least one example where this happened after a certain person/party gained power.

It seems astoundingly ignorant for people to think "Oh, NBD, Trump won't get away with shit" when history have proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time again that this is incredibly short-sighted.

The only upside for me is that, since I'm white, male, and in the military, my way of life is pretty fucking safe with Republicans in charge unless Trump stays Trump and gets us into a stupid war and I get killed. Assuming I don't, I'm young enough to be around in 4 years and get some sweet "I told you so's" in when America tries to lift itself off of it's ass after its economy tanks again and we become an international laughingstock.


Yeah. Tell me, how many democratic countries were that, and of those, how many were still a democracy after it.

None? Well shit.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic

Too easy.


Cute. Except, wrong. Because clearly, after Hitler was "elected", we're not talking a Democracy anymore, do we now. Sidenote: please don't try to lecture me in german history.


PS: you should feel safe as a soldier under republican lead. It's not like they ever, ever started wars.

Show nested quote +

I already mentioned this.


That doesn't make it less stupid of a statement.

edit: 6am, quoting too hard
On track to MA1950A.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 09 2016 06:05 GMT
#121586
Come the fuck on. Call it already. I wan't to sleep. lol
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 06:05 GMT
#121587
On November 09 2016 15:02 Djzapz wrote:
Is it foolish of me to worry about the possibility that the Trump presidency in concert with a republican legislature and a republican SCOTUS could be able to sufficiently modify the electoral map (or do some other sketchy shit) in order to not have to lose elections again.


You mean like get rid of the Voting Rights Act, implement voter ID laws, gerrymander the districts, deny territories a say in their government, and restrict voting hours/early voting?

It's a little late for that concern.
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 06:05 GMT
#121588
301 electoral votes for Trump if current results hold true
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 06:05 GMT
#121589
On November 09 2016 15:05 Grettin wrote:
Come the fuck on. Call it already. I wan't to sleep. lol

will cnn be the last to call it
© Current year.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6307 Posts
November 09 2016 06:06 GMT
#121590
CNN blaming Russia now hahahahha :D
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 06:06 GMT
#121591
On November 09 2016 15:03 Danglars wrote:


Democrats lost it on minorities and boy did they bank on minorities. Sorry, illegal immigration hurts unskilled labor that already immigrated in before tomorrow's millions sneaking across the border.


Wait I thought Trump wasn't getting any minority votes?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 09 2016 06:06 GMT
#121592
On November 09 2016 15:05 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:02 Djzapz wrote:
Is it foolish of me to worry about the possibility that the Trump presidency in concert with a republican legislature and a republican SCOTUS could be able to sufficiently modify the electoral map (or do some other sketchy shit) in order to not have to lose elections again.


You mean like get rid of the Voting Rights Act, implement voter ID laws, gerrymander the districts, deny territories a say in their government, and restrict voting hours/early voting?

It's a little late for that concern.

My point if it's that's the shit they come up with during a democrat presidency it seems like it could get a whole lot worse under a government that doesn't bother with checks and balances and just does whatever the fuck it wants to promote its own interests.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 06:07 GMT
#121593
On November 09 2016 15:06 zeo wrote:
CNN blaming Russia now hahahahha :D

"we need to talk about it"
© Current year.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2016 06:07 GMT
#121594
On November 09 2016 15:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/amyewalter/status/796229054672334849

Democrats lost it on minorities and boy did they bank on minorities. Sorry, illegal immigration hurts unskilled labor that already immigrated in before tomorrow's millions sneaking across the border.


Wait I thought Trump wasn't getting any minority votes?

Clinton isn't either, apparently.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
November 09 2016 06:07 GMT
#121595
On November 09 2016 15:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/amyewalter/status/796229054672334849

Democrats lost it on minorities and boy did they bank on minorities. Sorry, illegal immigration hurts unskilled labor that already immigrated in before tomorrow's millions sneaking across the border.

Plansix needs to see this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 09 2016 06:07 GMT
#121596
Hillary was the only candidate Trump actually had a chance against, imo. So far, about everything's going as expected.
CatharsisUT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
November 09 2016 06:08 GMT
#121597
On November 09 2016 15:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/amyewalter/status/796229054672334849

Democrats lost it on minorities and boy did they bank on minorities. Sorry, illegal immigration hurts unskilled labor that already immigrated in before tomorrow's millions sneaking across the border.


I think those exits are unlikely to hold up. You just have to look at the racial makeup of the places where Trump out-performed the most to see that. Here, Nate Silver said it better than I did:

"The national exit poll shows Trump making bigger gains among black and Hispanic voters than among whites. But I’d urge at least a little caution. I know that exit polls aren’t supposed to be used for projecting results, but they did an awfully bad job tonight, initially showing what had looked like a near-landslide margin for Clinton. Furthermore, as compared with pre-election polls, Trump clearly overperformed the most in whiter states. So on second thought, maybe that’s a lot of caution and not just a little."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:08:59
November 09 2016 06:08 GMT
#121598
On November 09 2016 15:01 BigFan wrote:
So, what's the hold up? It's been at least an hour and Michigan isn't confirmed yet? Nothing on the other states too?

PA would be the state that makes the call here. Michigan is possible for Clinton, NH is within 0.1% but once PA is called (even if she wins PA it's still just the 269 scenario and she loses that) it's over.

So just wait for the last 2% from PA.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
November 09 2016 06:08 GMT
#121599
Ah well, long live the Emperor or whatever, i call it for myself. Need to sleep.
On track to MA1950A.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:09:25
November 09 2016 06:09 GMT
#121600
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LAUGHING. SOME OF THEM IN THE KREMLIN.

My. fucking. head. CNN.
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