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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:49 LegalLord wrote: I was going to say that first thing the Hillary camp would do is blame Bernie voters for not getting behind her... but it seems I was late to the punch. It's already happening. Seriously. Way more sanders supporters ended up going for her than I originally thought. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:49 wuhan_clan wrote: Most people are super dramatic about these kind of things. For the majority of the population, their day to day lives will not change at all. And yeah, this election sets up anyone to easily take the 2020 election. You know, I wonder how many times throughout history have said, "This won't really change anything", only to have their country/empire/whatever collapse as a consequence of who comes into power. I'm sure we can think of at least one example where this happened after a certain person/party gained power. It seems astoundingly ignorant for people to think "Oh, NBD, Trump won't get away with shit" when history have proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time again that this is incredibly short-sighted. The only upside for me is that, since I'm white, male, and in the military, my way of life is pretty fucking safe with Republicans in charge unless Trump stays Trump and gets us into a stupid war and I get killed. Assuming I don't, I'm young enough to be around in 4 years and get some sweet "I told you so's" in when America tries to lift itself off of it's ass after its economy tanks again and we become an international laughingstock. | ||
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KwarK
United States43248 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:50 ChristianS wrote: Might not matter now. Pray to God Kwark is wrong about where Trump will take us. Speaking of, I'll miss you Kwark. You were easily my favorite poster in the thread, and the only person who has ever described modern imperialism in a way i found remotely persuasive 90 days isn't so much, America just got sentenced to 1461. And anyway, I'm British. Grace in defeat, magnanimity in victory. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:48 zeo wrote: T-t-trump won't get 5% of the vote in the primaries T-t-trump might have over 5% but he wont win a single state T-trump might have won a few states but he won't win the primaries Trump is the Republican ticket now b-b-but he won't win the election T-t-t-trump won't get reelected! Sigh. 4 years in the White House is a bit different from 4 months of a general election campaign. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:54 KwarK wrote: 90 days isn't so much, America just got sentenced to 1461. And anyway, I'm British. Grace in defeat, magnanimity in victory. I learned the most in this thread from you, later bro. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:52 Nebuchad wrote: It takes something special to lose to Trump. You can decide to blame it on the berniebros if that makes you feel better. I'm going to focus on the conscious choice to elect a candidate that's hated as much as Trump over a candidate that is perceived more positively than negatively. You got that right. More than ever, this election cycle was more about the candidate's character, rather than his or her policy (or lack thereof). I think Bernie would have favorable results vs Trump despite having his head stuck up his ass in socialist policies. | ||
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KwarK
United States43248 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:53 Jaaaaasper wrote: I mean third party voters won Trump Florida Arizona Michigan and Wisconson and more, so yeah its their fault. Trump voters won Trump. Every vote for a third party over Hillary is one more vote she needed to win. Every vote for Trump over Hillary is two more votes she needed to win. If we're gonna attack a group for the Trump victory then how about we look at the deplorable half of the country. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12355 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:53 Jaaaaasper wrote: I mean third party voters won Trump Florida Arizona Michigan and Wisconson and more, so yeah its their fault. America is probably the only place on earth where it's the fault of the voters that someone doesn't get elected. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45056 Posts
With the Republicans in charge of all three branches of government, I feel like things should work smoothly in theory for them if they had a President Cruz or Rubio, but Trump doesn't see eye-to-eye with the Republican party on plenty of issues. He's also volatile and thin-skinned, and there's very little chance that he'd be able to actually handle the presidency with any level of tact or diplomacy... or eloquence... or intelligence. With him as their leader, I wonder if the Republican party will go through an identity crisis. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:53 Stratos_speAr wrote: You know, I wonder how many times throughout history have said, "This won't really change anything", only to have their country/empire/whatever collapse as a consequence of who comes into power. I'm sure we can think of at least one example where this happened after a certain person/party gained power. It seems astoundingly ignorant for people to think "Oh, NBD, Trump won't get away with shit" when history have proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time again that this is incredibly short-sighted. The only upside for me is that, since I'm white, male, and in the military, my way of life is pretty fucking safe with Republicans in charge unless Trump stays Trump and gets us into a stupid war and I get killed. Assuming I don't, I'm young enough to be around in 4 years and get some sweet "I told you so's" in when America tries to lift itself off of it's ass after its economy tanks again and we become an international laughingstock. Yeah. Tell me, how many democratic countries were that, and of those, how many were still a democracy after it. None? Well shit. PS: you should feel safe as a soldier under republican lead. It's not like they ever, ever started wars. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:53 a_flayer wrote: So trying to look at the upside... what are the chances Trump wants to put his name on Mars? Well he has said he wants to increase funding for the COTS program(The Commercial Space funding). | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:53 DeepElemBlues wrote: If white people start voting in bloc fashion the way minorities do, they'll determine who wins the presidency for another 30 years. Admittedly that isn't going to happen, but tonight we saw the white working class (which is like 40% of the electorate) essentially voting as a bloc for Trump. A less vulgar and generally boorish Republican candidate could bring college-educated whites back to their historical GOP voting levels while retaining working class whites and that would be enough to win the presidency for some time. Could. It took a Trump to get such a swing in the white working class from generally favoring the Republican to overwhelmingly favoring the Republican. I'd be absolutely floored if a name other than Trump wins white working class this big. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6308 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Serious question, since Trump is at odds with both Democrats and establishment Republicans: Will the Trump presidency help or harm the Republican party's image? With the Republicans in charge of all three branches of government, I feel like things should work smoothly in theory for them if they had a President Cruz or Rubio, but Trump doesn't see eye-to-eye with the Republican party on plenty of issues. He's also volatile and thin-skinned, and there's very little chance that he'd be able to actually handle the presidency with any level of tact or diplomacy... or eloquence... or intelligence. With him as their leader, I wonder if the Republican party will go through an identity crisis. Trump just got them 2 Supreme Court judges. They will get along just fine  | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:51 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: What happened here, is it a local issue? https://twitter.com/eliotnelson/status/796190510901821440/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw fairly sure I saw that on 538 already before the first polls closed as a tradition that will most certainly break. Used to be democratic, turned more and more conservative over the years (by now way more conservative than the average US) and was at exactly 50% or something like that in 2012 despite Obama winning pretty handily | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4356 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote: So they've already started the post-match blame-game lol Good, let them tear the democrat party even further apart. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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KwarK
United States43248 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Serious question, since Trump is at odds with both Democrats and establishment Republicans: Will the Trump presidency help or harm the Republican party's image? With the Republicans in charge of all three branches of government, I feel like things should work smoothly in theory for them if they had a President Cruz or Rubio, but Trump doesn't see eye-to-eye with the Republican party on plenty of issues. He's also volatile and thin-skinned, and there's very little chance that he'd be able to actually handle the presidency with any level of tact or diplomacy... or eloquence... or intelligence. With him as their leader, I wonder if the Republican party will go through an identity crisis. Like I said, the Republican party has been playing damage control since the day Trump became their nominee. Sticking close enough to associate with him, but ready to ditch him when things look bad. I expect that to be their MO for the next 4 years. The only question is whether the public buys their bullshit. | ||
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