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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
November 09 2016 05:49 GMT
#121521
Is PA going red?!
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
November 09 2016 05:49 GMT
#121522
On November 09 2016 14:43 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Well, as it turns out, white people can't be marginalized politically in America quite yet.

I don't see what the big deal is, Trump's not gonna get re-elected. Neither would Hillary. And the United States of America is too large and strong and rich a country and a people to get completely wrekt by either of them.


Most people are super dramatic about these kind of things. For the majority of the population, their day to day lives will not change at all. And yeah, this election sets up anyone to easily take the 2020 election.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
November 09 2016 05:49 GMT
#121523
i need to find a cnn stream now.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2016 05:49 GMT
#121524
On November 09 2016 14:47 ChristianS wrote:
This was the last presidential election where a candidate could run on "fuck minorities" and still have enough white people around to win on it. 4 years from now this wouldn't be possible.


idk. With Trump in charge there might be a way to keep this possible.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 05:49 GMT
#121525
I was going to say that first thing the Hillary camp would do is blame Bernie voters for not getting behind her... but it seems I was late to the punch. It's already happening.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 09 2016 05:49 GMT
#121526
On November 09 2016 14:47 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:45 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:43 m4ini wrote:
Is there any information about voter turnout, especially age groups?

I wonder if Bernie would've done better than Hillary. In all fairness though, Trump by "definition" was hard to beat, mainly because he justified his open racism etc by telling people "i'm just not politically correct" - and people swallowed that. There's a huge amount of people who reacted/voted based on that alone, regardless of his "policies".

I just wonder if the DNC fucked themselves by fucking Bernie.

Bernie bros fucked themselves by voting for third party canidates or not voting. And Hillary had 3 million more votes, so its not like they went against the will of the people. Plus Bernie has plenty of skeletons in his closet like his writing about sex and woman, he and his wife bakrupting a college, his praise for soviet russia or his honey moon there.


And as you can see, clearly the capacity to be attacked by opponents makes you fare worse than Clinton, to the point that it's unquestionable he would have lost his, what, 50+ lead in likeability.

And as you can see, no one attacking Bernie has made him look far more favorable than he would if Clinton hadn't used the kid gloves with him or what he would have faced in a general election.

At least as a straight white dude who can afford college this doesn't hurt me nearly as much as the Bernie bros who decided this election with their protest votes, so I get 4 years+ of telling them they did this to themselves.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
November 09 2016 05:50 GMT
#121527
On November 09 2016 14:43 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Trump's not gonna get re-elected


No brakes! Tump2020!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 09 2016 05:50 GMT
#121528
On November 09 2016 14:49 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:46 plasmidghost wrote:
Clinton News Network in flames

Gloria is on the verge of tears.

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:48 GoTuNk! wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:46 plasmidghost wrote:
Clinton News Network in flames


any online link to enjoy?


www.cnn.com

All of the networks are streaming for free.


CNN with the race talk.. Oh dear.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 09 2016 05:50 GMT
#121529
On November 09 2016 14:49 a_flayer wrote:
Is PA going red?!

looks that way 97% reporting and 35k lead
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 09 2016 05:50 GMT
#121530
On November 09 2016 14:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:47 ChristianS wrote:
This was the last presidential election where a candidate could run on "fuck minorities" and still have enough white people around to win on it. 4 years from now this wouldn't be possible.


I fucking hope so.

Might not matter now. Pray to God Kwark is wrong about where Trump will take us.

Speaking of, I'll miss you Kwark. You were easily my favorite poster in the thread, and the only person who has ever described modern imperialism in a way i found remotely persuasive
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 05:51 GMT
#121531
On November 09 2016 14:48 biology]major wrote:
29% of latinos voted for Trump. More than Romney, lol


Source?
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States601 Posts
November 09 2016 05:51 GMT
#121532
On November 09 2016 14:49 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:46 plasmidghost wrote:
Clinton News Network in flames

Gloria is on the verge of tears.

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:48 GoTuNk! wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:46 plasmidghost wrote:
Clinton News Network in flames


any online link to enjoy?


www.cnn.com

All of the networks are streaming for free.


Van too
I am, therefore I pee
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
November 09 2016 05:51 GMT
#121533
On November 09 2016 14:50 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:49 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:46 plasmidghost wrote:
Clinton News Network in flames

Gloria is on the verge of tears.

On November 09 2016 14:48 GoTuNk! wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:46 plasmidghost wrote:
Clinton News Network in flames


any online link to enjoy?


www.cnn.com

All of the networks are streaming for free.


CNN with the race talk.. Oh dear.

Tears - the news channel.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 09 2016 05:51 GMT
#121534
On November 09 2016 14:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:48 biology]major wrote:
29% of latinos voted for Trump. More than Romney, lol


Source?


Gloria from CNN, with her tears
Question.?
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 05:52:12
November 09 2016 05:51 GMT
#121535
What happened here, is it a local issue?
https://twitter.com/eliotnelson/status/796190510901821440/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
November 09 2016 05:52 GMT
#121536
On November 09 2016 14:49 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:47 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:45 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:43 m4ini wrote:
Is there any information about voter turnout, especially age groups?

I wonder if Bernie would've done better than Hillary. In all fairness though, Trump by "definition" was hard to beat, mainly because he justified his open racism etc by telling people "i'm just not politically correct" - and people swallowed that. There's a huge amount of people who reacted/voted based on that alone, regardless of his "policies".

I just wonder if the DNC fucked themselves by fucking Bernie.

Bernie bros fucked themselves by voting for third party canidates or not voting. And Hillary had 3 million more votes, so its not like they went against the will of the people. Plus Bernie has plenty of skeletons in his closet like his writing about sex and woman, he and his wife bakrupting a college, his praise for soviet russia or his honey moon there.


And as you can see, clearly the capacity to be attacked by opponents makes you fare worse than Clinton, to the point that it's unquestionable he would have lost his, what, 50+ lead in likeability.

And as you can see, no one attacking Bernie has made him look far more favorable than he would if Clinton hadn't used the kid gloves with him or what he would have faced in a general election.

At least as a straight white dude who can afford college this doesn't hurt me nearly as much as the Bernie bros who decided this election with their protest votes, so I get 4 years+ of telling them they did this to themselves.


It takes something special to lose to Trump. You can decide to blame it on the berniebros if that makes you feel better. I'm going to focus on the conscious choice to elect a candidate that's hated as much as Trump over a candidate that is perceived more positively than negatively.
No will to live, no wish to die
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
November 09 2016 05:53 GMT
#121537
On November 09 2016 14:47 ChristianS wrote:
This was the last presidential election where a candidate could run on "fuck minorities" and still have enough white people around to win on it. 4 years from now this wouldn't be possible.


If white people start voting in bloc fashion the way minorities do, they'll determine who wins the presidency for another 30 years.

Admittedly that isn't going to happen, but tonight we saw the white working class (which is like 40% of the electorate) essentially voting as a bloc for Trump.

A less vulgar and generally boorish Republican candidate could bring college-educated whites back to their historical GOP voting levels while retaining working class whites and that would be enough to win the presidency for some time. Could. It took a Trump to get such a swing in the white working class from generally favoring the Republican to overwhelmingly favoring the Republican.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 05:53 GMT
#121538
america can you not ddos our immigration site
© Current year.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 09 2016 05:53 GMT
#121539
On November 09 2016 14:52 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:49 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:47 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:45 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On November 09 2016 14:43 m4ini wrote:
Is there any information about voter turnout, especially age groups?

I wonder if Bernie would've done better than Hillary. In all fairness though, Trump by "definition" was hard to beat, mainly because he justified his open racism etc by telling people "i'm just not politically correct" - and people swallowed that. There's a huge amount of people who reacted/voted based on that alone, regardless of his "policies".

I just wonder if the DNC fucked themselves by fucking Bernie.

Bernie bros fucked themselves by voting for third party canidates or not voting. And Hillary had 3 million more votes, so its not like they went against the will of the people. Plus Bernie has plenty of skeletons in his closet like his writing about sex and woman, he and his wife bakrupting a college, his praise for soviet russia or his honey moon there.


And as you can see, clearly the capacity to be attacked by opponents makes you fare worse than Clinton, to the point that it's unquestionable he would have lost his, what, 50+ lead in likeability.

And as you can see, no one attacking Bernie has made him look far more favorable than he would if Clinton hadn't used the kid gloves with him or what he would have faced in a general election.

At least as a straight white dude who can afford college this doesn't hurt me nearly as much as the Bernie bros who decided this election with their protest votes, so I get 4 years+ of telling them they did this to themselves.


It takes something special to lose to Trump. You can decide to blame it on the berniebros if that makes you feel better. I'm going to focus on the conscious choice to elect a candidate that's hated as much as Trump over a candidate that is perceived more positively than negatively.

I mean third party voters won Trump Florida Arizona Michigan and Wisconson and more, so yeah its their fault.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
November 09 2016 05:53 GMT
#121540
So trying to look at the upside... what are the chances Trump wants to put his name on Mars?
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
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