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On October 14 2016 07:27 Howie_Dewitt wrote: I have two questions.
1. Do you think the libertarian party would have had a better chance with their ticket reversed? 2. How has each president over the last 40 years handled the stress of being president? Trump seems like he would start slamming his head into a wall and screaming, while the other candidates seem more calm.
I don't really even know who Gary Johnson's runningmate is, but my biggest issue with Johnson was that he always went into "deer in the headlights" mode whenever he was given an opportunity to speak... ever... Like, he was campaigning on not being Hillary or Trump (which isn't a bad strategy) but then looked completely in the dark in regards to everything he was asked about. Is Johnson's runningmate even remotely insightful and a decent orator?
With a ticket reversal they might have kept their highs of 9% until election day. They weren't going to win regardless, but they wouldn't have shed votes from Aleppo gaffes.
On October 14 2016 07:10 KwarK wrote: On the Alex Jones note, does anyone know his stance on the moon? I couldn't find it out but I know that David Icke and his ilk think the moon isn't real. Not the moon landings, the moon. I was wondering if Alex Jones had made a statement on that.
I'm like 90% sure he's against the moon landing, this is the first I've heard that anyone on earth could be against the moon's actual existence though. Good lord. Not to say that he is or isn't, I'm not sure I try to avoid digging around him too much because I'll end up giving myself an aneurysm if I do, but you do have me curious now....
"The Moon Matrix is introduced in Human Race Get Off Your Knees: The Lion Sleeps No More (2010), in which Icke suggests that the Earth and collective human mind are manipulated from the Moon, a spacecraft and inter-dimensional portal controlled by the reptilians. The Moon Matrix is a broadcast from that spacecraft to the human body–computer, specifically to the left hemisphere of the brain, which gives us our sense of reality: "We are living in a dreamworld within a dreamworld—a Matrix within the virtual-reality universe—and it is being broadcast from the Moon." Unless people force themselves to become fully conscious, their minds are the Moon's mind.[152]
This idea is further explored in Icke's Remember Who You Are: Remember 'Where' You Are and Where You 'Come' From (2012), where he introduces the concept of the "Saturn–Moon Matrix". In this more recent conceptualization, the rings of Saturn (which Icke believes were artificially created by reptilian spacecraft) are the ultimate source of the signal, while the Moon is merely a sort of amplifier.[124]" ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke#Saturn.E2.80.93Moon_Matrix
Ho-lee-shit. This is fabulous..............I had no idea I'd been missing out on such glorious insanity.
I get the whole "we're living in a simulation thing" and who fuckin knows maybe we are. But this is fantastically dumb. I love it!
David Icke is a semi regular part of the Alex Jones experience and the moon being fake is his big thing which is why I was curious. + Show Spoiler [Alex interviews David] +
I found the DJT stuff. Just reading this, it sounds exactly like it was from GodLikeProductions or InfoWars. Also, I think DJT is perilously close to slipping up and accidentally saying "Jews" at some point.
"It is a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put the money in the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. Just look at what the corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit, Flint, Michigan and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and all cross our country. Take a look at what is going on. They've stripped away the towns bare and raided the wealth for themselves and taken our jobs away, out of our country, never to return unless I'm elected president," he said.
“The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure,” Trump continued. “We have seen this in the WikiLeaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends, and her donors."
On October 14 2016 07:01 WolfintheSheep wrote: This is why conspiracies rule public discourse. Takes half a second to make one up, and forever to disprove it.
And also why "That's the stupidest thing I've heard" is a legitimate counter-argument.
You cannot disprove an unproved thing.
"What if X happened" is easily answered by "what evidence?"
If they show evidence that is not convincing, it is their fault that they aren't convincing. If they yell about how you're sheeple, you just let them know that being angry doesn't make it true.
It's not about arguing with a conspiracy theorist.
You need to convince everyone else that the conspiracy theorist is a loon. And anyone not convinced will continue to propagate dumb conspiracies.
That's actually a different question altogether, and the correct answer is emphasizing humanities back into early education. Early STEM education is focused on basic mathematics and experimentation--but more abstracted concepts don't get integrated until later education levels. Humanities not needing a baseline can start the concept of proof based argumentation and it would automatically cleanse the world of most conspiracy theories.
The US has insisted it wants no direct military involvement in the bruising war in Yemen a day after launching its first strikes on territory controlled by the Houthi rebel movement.
As the Iran-backed Houthi rebels denied firing missiles at an American destroyer in international waters, the Pentagon said it did not know who launched the attack on the USS Mason – an act which prompted another destroyer, the USS Nitze, to launch Tomahawk missiles at three radar sites on Yemen’s Red Sea coast.
“We don’t seek a wider role in this conflict,” said Peter Cook, the Pentagon press secretary on Thursday.
Cook said the strikes were a limited reprisal to defend the Mason and the principle of freedom of navigation in the Bab al-Mandeb waterway, “not connected to the broader conflict in Yemen.”
But Cook also suggested the US might not have launched its last strike against Houthi-controlled terrain.
“Should we see a repeat, we will be prepared to take appropriate action again,” he said.
The Houthis have denied any role in the strikes on the USS Mason. Contradicting the US, the Houthis told the Saba news agency that the missiles did not originate from its territory and offered to aid in an investigation of the incidents.
The US, along with the UK, are the main backers of Saudi Arabia, which has led a coalition to reinstate the exiled president, Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi, and counter the advances of Iran-backed Houthi fighters, who control the capital, Sana’a, and large swaths of territory.
Weld has basically said "yeah Clinton is gonna be the next president". He's actually a pretty solid dude - moderate, not-very-partisan Republican... who has no future in the Republican Party of today. If he were top of the ticket he probably would have peeled a lot more moderate Republicans away from Trump - some are voting Trump reluctantly, some are voting Clinton reluctantly and the rest are sitting out. He probably would have a solid chance of getting the Libs to the magic number for federal funds.
On October 14 2016 07:39 CannonsNCarriers wrote: I found the DJT stuff. Just reading this, it sounds exactly like it was from GodLikeProductions or InfoWars. Also, I think DJT is perilously close to slipping up and accidentally saying "Jews" at some point.
"It is a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put the money in the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. Just look at what the corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit, Flint, Michigan and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and all cross our country. Take a look at what is going on. They've stripped away the towns bare and raided the wealth for themselves and taken our jobs away, out of our country, never to return unless I'm elected president," he said.
“The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure,” Trump continued. “We have seen this in the WikiLeaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends, and her donors."
On October 14 2016 08:00 LegalLord wrote: Trump definitely has the meme and conspiracy theory demographics locked down.
I think that Trump is going to full blown swing towards out and out "Conspiratarianism" in the final weeks. He can't fight the sexual abuse allegations because there are too many. Since the news is so bad for DJT, I think he simply makes a play for people that won't believe the news. His new campaign themes are going to emphasize how the Elite Media and Globalists Rig the whole thing anyways. My Facebook conservative friends are switching to conspiratarianism pretty fast.
This is of course a catastrophic result for the body politic. You want to talk division, you won't believe just how divided the country will get when 30-40% of the population don't accept objectively verifiable reality.
EDIT: here is the Bane overcut of Trump's speech when he went full Conspiratarian.
On October 14 2016 08:00 LegalLord wrote: Trump definitely has the meme and conspiracy theory demographics locked down.
I think that Trump is going to full blown swing towards out and out "Conspiratarianism" in the final weeks. He can't fight the sexual abuse allegations because there are too many. Since the news is so bad for DJT, I think he simply makes a play for people that won't believe the news. His new campaign themes are going to emphasize how the Elite Media and Globalists Rig the whole thing anyways. My Facebook conservative friends are switching to conspiratarianism pretty fast.
This is of course a catastrophic result for the body politic. You want to talk division, you won't believe just how divided the country will get when 30-40% of the population don't accept objectively verifiable reality.
I mean, just like he said at the rally, "what do you have to lose?" Might as well take any shot he can get.
On October 14 2016 08:00 LegalLord wrote: Trump definitely has the meme and conspiracy theory demographics locked down.
I think that Trump is going to full blown swing towards out and out "Conspiratarianism" in the final weeks. He can't fight the sexual abuse allegations because there are too many. Since the news is so bad for DJT, I think he simply makes a play for people that won't believe the news. His new campaign themes are going to emphasize how the Elite Media and Globalists Rig the whole thing anyways. My Facebook conservative friends are switching to conspiratarianism pretty fast.
This is of course a catastrophic result for the body politic. You want to talk division, you won't believe just how divided the country will get when 30-40% of the population don't accept objectively verifiable reality.
That montage is super biased, but I have to say it work very well, for a second when he said destroy 30 thousand I tough he was going to follow it up with «life».
EPT
