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On October 14 2016 10:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: See this is exactly what they wanted, everyone talking about the debate non stop as if it's really a reality show. I haven't seen one person mention the rising tension with between US and Russia recently. That is much more deserving to talk about.
Well... there's tension between Russia and 1 of the presidential Candidates. The other one may as well be Putin's slave.
On October 14 2016 10:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: See this is exactly what they wanted, everyone talking about the debate non stop as if it's really a reality show. I haven't seen one person mention the rising tension with between US and Russia recently. That is much more deserving to talk about.
Serious question, who is "they" there :Trump, Hillary, the Russians or someone else?
On October 14 2016 10:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: See this is exactly what they wanted, everyone talking about the debate non stop as if it's really a reality show. I haven't seen one person mention the rising tension with between US and Russia recently. That is much more deserving to talk about.
The rhetoric is certainly more aggressive than it was a while ago but you should wait until it translates into actual policy dealings or policy promises before saying that it's something to worry about. As of now the election is more important.
Mainly the Russians just want to be relevant, and yeah they can do cool things with their military so everyone pays attention to them, but they're still just a gas station .
LegalLord, while the elections are important, I seriously doubt that Trump has a chance, and it will go to Hillary. The same people that put Obama into office will be the same people that will put Hillary into the office. As of now, I'm more worried about the tensions, because A) I have military friends who are pretty much ready to fight in a WW3 with Russia if needed. And as a person on the sideline, it's scary seeing my friends talk like that already without a president even being picked.
So I think the US and Russian tensions are important now.
On October 14 2016 10:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: See this is exactly what they wanted, everyone talking about the debate non stop as if it's really a reality show. I haven't seen one person mention the rising tension with between US and Russia recently. That is much more deserving to talk about.
Serious question, who is "they" there :Trump, Hillary, the Russians or someone else?
Trump, Russians, I feel as if they enjoy when US Americans eat that shit up.
well, i'd be happy to discuss it here; but it's not like policy in general gets much discussion it's boring. it's just how things are. of course, as none of us affect policy it's not liike there's as much need for us to assess it.
Former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders and four other U.S. senators on Thursday called on President Barack Obama to order a comprehensive environmental review of a pipeline project that has stirred widespread opposition from Native Americans and environmental activists.
After a federal appeals court on Sunday night denied a request to halt construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline, the senators asked Obama to direct the Army Corps of Engineers to complete a full environmental impact statement, including stronger tribal consultation, for a contested part of the route.
"The project’s current permits should be suspended and all construction stopped until a complete environmental and cultural review has been completed for the entire project," said the letter by Sanders and Democratic Senators Dianne Feinstein, Ed Markey, Patrick Leahy and Benjamin Cardin.
Also on Thursday, the governments of 19 cities, including St. Louis and Minneapolis, passed ordinances to support the Standing Rock tribe in opposition of the pipeline.
In recent weeks, protests against the Dakota Access pipeline led by the Standing Rock Sioux tribe in North Dakota have drawn international attention, prompting the U.S. government to temporarily block construction on federal land.
Tribal leaders say the pipeline will desecrate land and pollute water, especially around the planned crossing through Lake Oahe, a sacred site. Opposition to the pipeline has drawn support from 200 Native American tribes.
On Tuesday, anti-pipeline activists in four states, in solidarity with the Dakota pipeline protesters, closed pipeline valves to halt the flow of crude through arteries transporting 15 percent of U.S. oil consumption.
A day earlier, actress Shailene Woodley was arrested in North Dakota while protesting the pipeline, an incident that was live streamed on Facebook.
On Thursday, Amy Goodman, a journalist from the independent TV and radio program Democracy Now!, said she would turn herself over to authorities in North Dakota on Monday morning, in response to a criminal complaint was filed against her on Sept. 8 for trespassing.
Goodman had filmed the crackdown on protesters by authorities last month.
"I was doing my job as a journalist, covering a violent attack on Native American protesters," she said.
When fully connected, the 1,100-mile (1,770 km) pipeline would be the first to carry crude directly to the U.S. Gulf from the Bakken shale, a vast oil formation in North Dakota, Montana and parts of Canada.
the best quote from that AMA (after a question+answer if he would run for president)
You would have the honesty appeal of a Bernie Sanders, the outsider appeal of a Donald Trump, the foreign policy experience of a Gary Johnson, and you'd be up against likely incumbent Hillary Clinton.
On October 14 2016 10:09 levelping wrote: Can we all take a moment and appreciate the strategic plan of Clinton?
Wait till a month before the election date, go strong on these sexual claims, deflect attention from the emails, and as the closer, get your most popular speaker (Michelle) to directly call out trump. He'll either lose it and insult Michelle, or will have to leave her challenge unanswered.
Forget about whether all this is even true, but this is the sort of strategic mind I'd want to be dealing with the rest of the world.
Did you notice the bait planted weeks ago? Machado was such obvious open bait. They knew exactly what they were doing and Trump stayed up til 3 AM being an imbecile. This leads straight into setting up the frame that DJT is abusive to women.
Then when the AccessTape hit, Cooper presses DJT until he says "no I did not" when it comes to acting on the AccessTape words. Instantly every DJT accuser is national news because DJT did that denial.
Multiple stories hit within hours of each other in multiple local news and two big accusers in NYT. HRC fire discipline is mind blowing. I was initially like, man, can't HRC hit him in the debates? Nah, HRC plays it cold and slow. DJT will be moping alone election night with every elected Republican running screaming.
Exactly. I really wish there American public can appreciate that whatever else you want to say about HRC she's a person completely able to study her opponent, come up with an effective plan, and execute it with discipline and precision. The contrast to angry tweets at 3am is mind boggling.
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