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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:14 Plansix wrote: It will be fine, they only held a fake trial for her at the GOP convention and everything. And the last time a president ordered an AG to charge someone it was Nixon. But it will be FINE. | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote: Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported. Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it. For the first debate, Trump didn't really land many hits on Hillary and seemed like a fool trying to land punches at points. This round, Trump landed them. Only difference. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:15 parkufarku wrote: I accept Trump not because I like Trump but I dislike the other option more - the establishment and Hillary. Us Bernie supporters were robbed of our democracy and election from right under this during Democratic primaries. That is why I'd rather see the country burn with 4 years of Trump than succumb to the rule of the Establishment taking away wealth, equality, voice, and now even the votes of the Middle class. Rigging the election is fucked up - I'm sure it happens every election, but this election, it was a serious case. So you would side with someone whose policy stances don't align at all with your preferred candidate over someone whose policy does somewhat? Seems rather childish. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote: Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported. Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it. More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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KwarK
United States42821 Posts
On October 10 2016 12:07 oBlade wrote: Yes, he campaigned for decades against his own job that Kwark thinks is less meaningful than the home parliament. That I think? I'm not the only one who thinks MEPs are less important than MPs to British politics. I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Your point? I haven't taught US history in a decade and its pretty late, mistakes happen. Also its not the presidents job to say who he will be sending to jail. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote: More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. I'd disagree on the locker room banter spin. I still think a lot of people don't find that kind of talk acceptable even "just between guys" (because let's be real, that's what locker room means because shockingly women also use locker rooms). It's basically just saying "boys will be boys." Plus he spent so much time awkwardly pivoting to unrelated stuff. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:18 RealityIsKing wrote: For the first debate, Trump didn't really land many hits on Hillary and seemed like a fool trying to land punches at points. This round, Trump landed them. Only difference. are these really undecided voters lmao | ||
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KwarK
United States42821 Posts
On October 10 2016 12:18 oBlade wrote: It's been interesting to see how many people you can describe as #NeverTrump are representing him as having literally no chance to win the election. The voters of Florida are always representing him as having no chance, for what it's worth. And without Florida he has no chance. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I forgot this was the second time he did it. I keep forgetting that Trump keeps promising to imprison her, even though that is something the president cant do. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote: More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. There is no world in which he "effectively spun" that tape story. "Locker room banter" is a horrific answer to an explicit tape that records you describing sexually assaulting a woman. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote: More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. I think this was more of a smart move by Hillary than anything. If she goes too hard on Trump for the tapes then she risks either appearing too negative or runs the risk that the words she used could be applied to Bill. By saying that American should make up their own minds about it while also mentioning the context of the tapes among our culture and other Trump scandals she's able to pin the tapes on Trump without giving anything that could be used against her later. When you're up to an 80+% chance of winning (before the polls reflect the tapes being released) you don't make risky plays. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
I also initially thought Obama won debate 1 vs Romney so I just don't have a good instinct for this. Hillary won, at best it was a tie for Trump. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:21 TheTenthDoc wrote: I'd disagree on the locker room banter spin. I still think a lot of people don't find that kind of talk acceptable even "just between guys" (because let's be real, that's what locker room means because shockingly women also use locker rooms). It's basically just saying "boys will be boys." Plus he spent so much time awkwardly pivoting to unrelated stuff. What's done is done; you can't unsay what was said. The best you can do is convince people who actively seek to give you the benefit of the doubt or to forgive you, and Trump did that well. Compare to Romney who fumbled over 47 percent badly enough that, instead of instantly apologizing for a bad remark, he went with it for a while and turned it into the remark that defines him as a candidate. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote: I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report Someone obviously botted it or linked it externally This is why we can't have nice things | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote: More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. Next round, Trump better be ready to land on any possible biased media about how they just glanced over the Clintons' female victims while focusing on for whole 10 minutes on Trump's speech. He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates. Later he'll just need to expand on his tax system, how will he deal with foreign relationship and making sure that America can stop trade loss, how will he rebuild cities/towns reconstruction. And then its Trump Presidente 2016. | ||
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