• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:05
CET 18:05
KST 02:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros2[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win42025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros DreamHack Open 2013 revealed Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Schizophrenia of KOR-EN…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1536 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5469

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5467 5468 5469 5470 5471 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 10 2016 04:18 GMT
#109361
On October 10 2016 13:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:13 Nevuk wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 Plansix wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney strategist



Yea because that's what he did

When you run out of ideas you spin lies

politics 101

Trump wasn't really talking about jailing her, just appointing someone to bring her to trial. It was all a joke, it will be fine. Also he is going to change libel and slander laws to stop the mean press. And then they might be in jail too, just joking, its fine.

People have been saying this shit since he started running and he has never changed his language about it. No one believes that he is joking or understands the rule of law.


Don't worry it will be fine. you worry too much

Yes, nothing will happen, don't worry, he's only calling for his supporters to assassinate her if he loses or jail her if he wins. He has to protect their precious feelings

It will be fine, they only held a fake trial for her at the GOP convention and everything. And the last time a president ordered an AG to charge someone it was Nixon. But it will be FINE.


RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 10 2016 04:18 GMT
#109362
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.


For the first debate, Trump didn't really land many hits on Hillary and seemed like a fool trying to land punches at points.

This round, Trump landed them.

Only difference.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
October 10 2016 04:18 GMT
#109363
On October 10 2016 13:15 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:12 Blisse wrote:
I know TL isn't a real source but 1) I didn't know so many people on TL supported Trump, and 2) if true it's amazing how rosy-eyed his supporters are if only 2 of them thought he lost the debate. I mean, it was obvious before but it's super crazy actually seeing it in person.

Would like to re-post this article about his supporters and Hillary because it makes so much sense IMO.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/09/the-deep-disgust-for-hillary-clinton-that-drives-so-many-evangelicals-to-support-trump/


I accept Trump not because I like Trump but I dislike the other option more - the establishment and Hillary. Us Bernie supporters were robbed of our democracy and election from right under this during Democratic primaries. That is why I'd rather see the country burn with 4 years of Trump than succumb to the rule of the Establishment taking away wealth, equality, voice, and now even the votes of the Middle class. Rigging the election is fucked up - I'm sure it happens every election, but this election, it was a serious case.

So you would side with someone whose policy stances don't align at all with your preferred candidate over someone whose policy does somewhat? Seems rather childish.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 04:19:49
October 10 2016 04:19 GMT
#109364
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.

More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Shingi11
Profile Joined May 2016
290 Posts
October 10 2016 04:20 GMT
#109365
Can any mods see who voted, i am just curious. Not the names but like if it is a bunch of bots just spamming the polls
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 10 2016 04:20 GMT
#109366
It looks like aside from the standard doomsaying nitpicking of things Trump said from the left, and complaints about moderation from the right, nothing really interesting happened.
Moderator
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43188 Posts
October 10 2016 04:21 GMT
#109367
On October 10 2016 12:07 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 10 2016 12:02 KwarK wrote:
On October 10 2016 11:59 Nevuk wrote:
On October 10 2016 11:59 KwarK wrote:
On October 10 2016 11:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You think Farage's debate coaching made a difference in this one?

Farage has never been in a serious debate. He's not a politician in the UK. He's like Gary Johnson.

Eh, Gary Johnson was a former governor.

True. Whereas Farage has never won a seat in the Houses of Parliament.


What exactly has he even done? I was under the impression he did a lot to get Brexit to pass

Yes, he campaigned for decades against his own job that Kwark thinks is less meaningful than the home parliament.

That I think? I'm not the only one who thinks MEPs are less important than MPs to British politics. I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 04:22:02
October 10 2016 04:21 GMT
#109368
On October 10 2016 13:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:14 Plansix wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:13 Nevuk wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 Plansix wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney strategist

https://twitter.com/stuartpstevens/status/785316266017980416


Yea because that's what he did

When you run out of ideas you spin lies

politics 101

Trump wasn't really talking about jailing her, just appointing someone to bring her to trial. It was all a joke, it will be fine. Also he is going to change libel and slander laws to stop the mean press. And then they might be in jail too, just joking, its fine.

People have been saying this shit since he started running and he has never changed his language about it. No one believes that he is joking or understands the rule of law.


Don't worry it will be fine. you worry too much

Yes, nothing will happen, don't worry, he's only calling for his supporters to assassinate her if he loses or jail her if he wins. He has to protect their precious feelings

It will be fine, they only held a fake trial for her at the GOP convention and everything. And the last time a president ordered an AG to charge someone it was Nixon. But it will be FINE.


https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/785316157926572033

Your point? I haven't taught US history in a decade and its pretty late, mistakes happen. Also its not the presidents job to say who he will be sending to jail.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 04:22:06
October 10 2016 04:21 GMT
#109369
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.

More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts.


I'd disagree on the locker room banter spin. I still think a lot of people don't find that kind of talk acceptable even "just between guys" (because let's be real, that's what locker room means because shockingly women also use locker rooms). It's basically just saying "boys will be boys." Plus he spent so much time awkwardly pivoting to unrelated stuff.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 10 2016 04:23 GMT
#109370
On October 10 2016 13:18 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.


For the first debate, Trump didn't really land many hits on Hillary and seemed like a fool trying to land punches at points.

This round, Trump landed them.

Only difference.


are these really undecided voters lmao
© Current year.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43188 Posts
October 10 2016 04:23 GMT
#109371
On October 10 2016 12:18 oBlade wrote:
It's been interesting to see how many people you can describe as #NeverTrump are representing him as having literally no chance to win the election.

The voters of Florida are always representing him as having no chance, for what it's worth. And without Florida he has no chance.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 04:24:48
October 10 2016 04:23 GMT
#109372


I forgot this was the second time he did it. I keep forgetting that Trump keeps promising to imprison her, even though that is something the president cant do.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 10 2016 04:23 GMT
#109373
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.

More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts.


There is no world in which he "effectively spun" that tape story.

"Locker room banter" is a horrific answer to an explicit tape that records you describing sexually assaulting a woman.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 10 2016 04:25 GMT
#109374
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.

More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts.


I think this was more of a smart move by Hillary than anything. If she goes too hard on Trump for the tapes then she risks either appearing too negative or runs the risk that the words she used could be applied to Bill.

By saying that American should make up their own minds about it while also mentioning the context of the tapes among our culture and other Trump scandals she's able to pin the tapes on Trump without giving anything that could be used against her later.

When you're up to an 80+% chance of winning (before the polls reflect the tapes being released) you don't make risky plays.
Logo
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 10 2016 04:25 GMT
#109375
I kind of want to take back my vote for "Trump won" after seeing post-debate polls and seeing betting markets revert to almost pre-debate status.

I also initially thought Obama won debate 1 vs Romney so I just don't have a good instinct for this.

Hillary won, at best it was a tie for Trump.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 10 2016 04:26 GMT
#109376
On October 10 2016 13:21 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.

More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts.


I'd disagree on the locker room banter spin. I still think a lot of people don't find that kind of talk acceptable even "just between guys" (because let's be real, that's what locker room means because shockingly women also use locker rooms). It's basically just saying "boys will be boys." Plus he spent so much time awkwardly pivoting to unrelated stuff.

What's done is done; you can't unsay what was said. The best you can do is convince people who actively seek to give you the benefit of the doubt or to forgive you, and Trump did that well. Compare to Romney who fumbled over 47 percent badly enough that, instead of instantly apologizing for a bad remark, he went with it for a while and turned it into the remark that defines him as a candidate.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 10 2016 04:26 GMT
#109377
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 10 2016 04:26 GMT
#109378
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 04:28:22
October 10 2016 04:27 GMT
#109379



On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report


Someone obviously botted it or linked it externally

This is why we can't have nice things
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 10 2016 04:27 GMT
#109380
On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on.

Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported.

Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it.

More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts.


Next round, Trump better be ready to land on any possible biased media about how they just glanced over the Clintons' female victims while focusing on for whole 10 minutes on Trump's speech.

He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates.

Later he'll just need to expand on his tax system, how will he deal with foreign relationship and making sure that America can stop trade loss, how will he rebuild cities/towns reconstruction.

And then its Trump Presidente 2016.

Prev 1 5467 5468 5469 5470 5471 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CrankTV Team League
13:00
Playoffs: Bo13
Team Liquid vs Team FalconLIVE!
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 380
ProTech74
UpATreeSC 70
MindelVK 20
Codebar 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Barracks 2756
Hyuk 2642
Leta 1900
Bisu 974
Jaedong 608
Shuttle 437
Hyun 94
Snow 55
Aegong 29
soO 28
[ Show more ]
JYJ20
JulyZerg 16
Shine 15
yabsab 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
HiyA 9
SilentControl 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4958
qojqva3857
Dendi1051
XcaliburYe130
capcasts15
Counter-Strike
fl0m1052
ceh9301
allub196
oskar98
Other Games
FrodaN1193
Beastyqt1159
B2W.Neo918
Lowko296
crisheroes165
Hui .158
Liquid`VortiX140
Fuzer 116
mouzStarbuck104
C9.Mang077
ArmadaUGS73
KnowMe70
QueenE69
Trikslyr43
Dewaltoss24
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3081
• Ler80
League of Legends
• Nemesis5437
• TFBlade754
Other Games
• imaqtpie1192
• WagamamaTV301
• Shiphtur165
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 55m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
15h 55m
WardiTV Invitational
18h 55m
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
Epic.LAN
18h 55m
CrankTV Team League
19h 55m
BASILISK vs TBD
Epic.LAN
1d 18h
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 20h
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
2 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.