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On October 10 2016 13:18 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:15 parkufarku wrote:I accept Trump not because I like Trump but I dislike the other option more - the establishment and Hillary. Us Bernie supporters were robbed of our democracy and election from right under this during Democratic primaries. That is why I'd rather see the country burn with 4 years of Trump than succumb to the rule of the Establishment taking away wealth, equality, voice, and now even the votes of the Middle class. Rigging the election is fucked up - I'm sure it happens every election, but this election, it was a serious case. So you would side with someone whose policy stances don't align at all with your preferred candidate over someone whose policy does somewhat? Seems rather childish.
Nah. Hillary only claims to be progressive and hold those interests. Her interests changed drastically - so I don't trust her at all. Her views are often Republican sometimes. Trump seems actually NY progressive sometimes. But most importantly, it's important to tell Establishment its not fucking OK to throw out votes. Sending them a message that if they mess with our basic democracy, we'll not take it bending over - there will be consequences. It's also 4 years of sacrifice to make sure Establishment is taken down or at least damaged.
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On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report
It just got linked to a spam place faster this time. Don't believe for a second it's legit.
On October 10 2016 13:27 parkufarku wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:18 Kickstart wrote:On October 10 2016 13:15 parkufarku wrote:I accept Trump not because I like Trump but I dislike the other option more - the establishment and Hillary. Us Bernie supporters were robbed of our democracy and election from right under this during Democratic primaries. That is why I'd rather see the country burn with 4 years of Trump than succumb to the rule of the Establishment taking away wealth, equality, voice, and now even the votes of the Middle class. Rigging the election is fucked up - I'm sure it happens every election, but this election, it was a serious case. So you would side with someone whose policy stances don't align at all with your preferred candidate over someone whose policy does somewhat? Seems rather childish. Nah. Hillary only claims to be progressive and hold those interests. Her interests changed drastically - so I don't trust her at all. Her views are often Republican sometimes. Trump seems actually NY progressive sometimes. But most importantly, it's important to tell Establishment its not fucking OK to throw out votes. Sending them a message that if they mess with our basic democracy, we'll not take it bending over - there will be consequences. It's also 4 years of sacrifice to make sure Establishment is taken down or at least damaged.
Eh, if you read her speech transcripts she sounds pretty progressive to me.
(also, if you don't want the establishment to throw out votes you shouldn't vote for someone who is registering poll observers without adequately training them)
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On October 10 2016 13:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
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On October 10 2016 13:13 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On October 10 2016 13:10 Plansix wrote:On October 10 2016 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On October 10 2016 13:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney strategist
Yea because that's what he did When you run out of ideas you spin lies politics 101 Trump wasn't really talking about jailing her, just appointing someone to bring her to trial. It was all a joke, it will be fine. Also he is going to change libel and slander laws to stop the mean press. And then they might be in jail too, just joking, its fine. People have been saying this shit since he started running and he has never changed his language about it. No one believes that he is joking or understands the rule of law. Don't worry it will be fine. you worry too much Yes, nothing will happen, don't worry, he's only calling for his supporters to assassinate her if he loses or jail her if he wins. He has to protect their precious feelings
Hes calling for people to assassinate her? Gimme a break.
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On October 10 2016 13:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report It just got linked to a spam place faster this time. Don't believe for a second it's legit.
Clinton winning never went above 26% since the poll went up
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On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report
It's being botted. There aren't that many Trump supporters on tl. Same as before. R1CH looked into the last one and confirmed botting.
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On October 10 2016 13:27 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on. Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported. Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it. More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. Next round, Trump better be ready to land on any possible biased media about how they just glanced over the Clintons' female victims while focusing on for whole 10 minutes on Trump's speech. He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates. Later he'll just need to expand on his tax system, how will he deal with foreign relationship and making sure that America can stop trade loss, how will he rebuild cities/towns reconstruction. And then its Trump Presidente 2016.
Care to bet on that?
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On October 10 2016 13:27 RealityIsKing wrote:
He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates.
Wait this is a thing people actually believe?
Even I think Bernie got screwed (or alternatively the DNC just played favorites), but the super delegates were both working as intended and not really a big deal. Clinton still got something like 2 million more votes than Bernie in the primaries.
Super Delegates are how you have a primary that doesn't end up nominating Trump, they aren't some mysterious evil (beyond maybe reporting in early to influence the primary outlook).
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On October 10 2016 13:29 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report It's being botted. There aren't that many Trump supporters on tl. Same as before. R1CH looked into the last one and confirmed botting.
Russians? Internet trolls? Russian internet trolls? North Korea?
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On October 10 2016 13:29 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report It just got linked to a spam place faster this time. Don't believe for a second it's legit. Clinton winning never went above 26% since the poll went up
I think Clinton winning+tie was around 45% though, which seems much more reasonable than it is now.
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On October 10 2016 13:30 Logo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:27 RealityIsKing wrote:
He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates.
Wait this is a thing people actually believe? Even I think Bernie got screwed (or alternatively the DNC just played favorites), but the super delegates were both working as intended and not really a big deal. Clinton still got something like 2 million more votes than Bernie in the primaries.
People who don't understand politics for simple math believe it.
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On October 10 2016 13:29 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report It just got linked to a spam place faster this time. Don't believe for a second it's legit. Clinton winning never went above 26% since the poll went up
The regular readers of this topic are strongly Clinton favoured, as indicated by previous polls run before the botting started. The percentages don't add up unless we're getting external hits. But whatever, maybe a few of them will stick around.
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On October 10 2016 13:21 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 12:07 oBlade wrote:On October 10 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On October 10 2016 12:02 KwarK wrote:On October 10 2016 11:59 Nevuk wrote:On October 10 2016 11:59 KwarK wrote:On October 10 2016 11:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You think Farage's debate coaching made a difference in this one? Farage has never been in a serious debate. He's not a politician in the UK. He's like Gary Johnson. Eh, Gary Johnson was a former governor. True. Whereas Farage has never won a seat in the Houses of Parliament. What exactly has he even done? I was under the impression he did a lot to get Brexit to pass Yes, he campaigned for decades against his own job that Kwark thinks is less meaningful than the home parliament. That I think? I'm not the only one who thinks MEPs are less important than MPs to British politics. I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.
The Republican party's color runs proudly all over your face right now, doesn't it, you overgrown twat? I never intimated that only our proud Kwark felt that way - I'm saying you don't see the irony of shitting all over Farage when he specifically fought against his own superfluous position in the European parliament, that I happen to agree with you is of scant prestige and with him ought not to exist.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 10 2016 13:31 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:29 KwarK wrote:On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report It's being botted. There aren't that many Trump supporters on tl. Same as before. R1CH looked into the last one and confirmed botting. Russians? Internet trolls? Russian internet trolls? North Korea?
400lb hackers, come on now.
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On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report
It's not a representative poll, something's going on, and you can tell because the site doesn't have that many Trump supporters to begin with.
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On October 10 2016 13:30 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:27 RealityIsKing wrote:On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on. Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported. Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it. More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. Next round, Trump better be ready to land on any possible biased media about how they just glanced over the Clintons' female victims while focusing on for whole 10 minutes on Trump's speech. He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates. Later he'll just need to expand on his tax system, how will he deal with foreign relationship and making sure that America can stop trade loss, how will he rebuild cities/towns reconstruction. And then its Trump Presidente 2016. Care to bet on that?
Care to bet on Trump doing these things?
Probably not.
Trump might come out with more dirt on Hillary from perhaps Wikileaks.
Wikileaks is one of those "sacred" product from the Internet, much like P2P connection for torrenting.
And Hillary pissing on that was cringe worthy.
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On October 10 2016 13:35 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:30 KwarK wrote:On October 10 2016 13:27 RealityIsKing wrote:On October 10 2016 13:19 LegalLord wrote:On October 10 2016 13:16 TheYango wrote:On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote:
Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on. Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported. Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it. More so that Trump managed to effectively spin the tape story as "locker room banter I'm not proud of" while getting a few good potshots in. Hillary performed average, Trump stopped the bleeding on both counts. Next round, Trump better be ready to land on any possible biased media about how they just glanced over the Clintons' female victims while focusing on for whole 10 minutes on Trump's speech. He'll then need to hit her again with how Clinton won because of Superdelegates. Later he'll just need to expand on his tax system, how will he deal with foreign relationship and making sure that America can stop trade loss, how will he rebuild cities/towns reconstruction. And then its Trump Presidente 2016. Care to bet on that? Care to bet on Trump doing these things? Probably not. Trump might come out with more dirt on Hillary from perhaps Wikileaks. Wikileaks is one of those "sacred" product from the Internet, much like P2P connection for torrenting. And Hillary pissing on that was cringe worthy.
If there's so much dirt on Trump, which we've seen there is, is it just a coincidence that Wikileaks hasn't found any?
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On October 10 2016 13:29 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:26 Nyxisto wrote:
I honestly don't understand the TL poll, is this legitimately different people voting? It looks like the drudge report It's being botted. There aren't that many Trump supporters on tl. Same as before. R1CH looked into the last one and confirmed botting.
Is someone really botting threads on gaming websites? Did R1CH find the source of the bots?
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