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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please. In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up! NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Yea because that's what he did When you run out of ideas you spin lies politics 101 Trump wasn't really talking about jailing her, just appointing someone to bring her to trial. It was all a joke, it will be fine. Also he is going to change libel and slander laws to stop the mean press. And then they might be in jail too, just joking, its fine. People have been saying this shit since he started running and he has never changed his language about it. No one believes that he is joking or understands the rule of law. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:10 Plansix wrote: Trump wasn't really talking about jailing her, just appointing someone to bring her to trial. It was all a joke, it will be fine. Also he is going to change libel and slander laws to stop the mean press. And then they might be in jail too, just joking, its fine. People have been saying this shit since he started running and he has never changed his language about it. No one believes that he is joking or understands the rule of law. Don't worry it will be fine. you worry too much | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:10 GGTeMpLaR wrote: https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/785331414254227456 Trump is the candidate, not a protester at the Dem convention, when will these comparisons stop? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Yes the guy who despises Trump is clearly a 'Trump people' It's already that time to spin bullshit lies and discredit anyone who disagrees with you as a 'trump person' isn't it Congrats, you found someone else who agrees with you. There is a staying about that. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
Would like to re-post this article about his supporters and Hillary because it makes so much sense IMO. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/09/the-deep-disgust-for-hillary-clinton-that-drives-so-many-evangelicals-to-support-trump/ | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Don't worry it will be fine. you worry too much Yes, nothing will happen, don't worry, he's only calling for his supporters to assassinate her if he loses or jail her if he wins. He has to protect their precious feelings | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:03 Aquanim wrote: So I take it you would not care to address the argument that complaining about the moderators in this thread is at least as ubiquitous as complaining about those complaints. I'll accept that some here would defend the quality of the moderation even if they were busy shooting candidates on fifth avenue. Only whiners would complain, after all. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:09 OuchyDathurts wrote: They aren't polls that matter in any way, shape, or form. All they are is who can make a bot to vote or who has more rabid no life followers who will actually spend their time spam voting in something completely meaningless. They're the exclusive reason things get named boaty mcboatface, why pitbull played a show in a walmart in Alaska, and the winner for a poll to name a Mountain Dew flavor was "Hitler did nothing wrong". They literally couldn't possibly matter less. I'm hoping by the time I die we either have chips wired in so clickers can't be gamed or we stop calling them polls entirely. I blame American Idol, personally. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:12 Blisse wrote: I know TL isn't a real source but 1) I didn't know so many people on TL supported Trump, and 2) if true it's amazing how rosy-eyed his supporters are if only 2 of them thought he lost the debate. I mean, it was obvious before but it's super crazy actually seeing it in person. Would like to re-post this article about his supporters and Hillary because it makes so much sense IMO. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/09/the-deep-disgust-for-hillary-clinton-that-drives-so-many-evangelicals-to-support-trump/ They don't. Someone botted the poll to skew it to say Trump won last time too. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:13 Nevuk wrote: Yes, nothing will happen, don't worry, he's only calling for his supporters to assassinate her if he loses or jail her if he wins. He has to protect their precious feelings It will be fine, they only held a fake trial for her at the GOP convention and everything. And the last time a president ordered an AG to charge someone it was Nixon. But it will be FINE. | ||
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:12 Blisse wrote: I know TL isn't a real source but 1) I didn't know so many people on TL supported Trump, and 2) if true it's amazing how rosy-eyed his supporters are if only 2 of them thought he lost the debate. I mean, it was obvious before but it's super crazy actually seeing it in person. Would like to re-post this article about his supporters and Hillary because it makes so much sense IMO. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/09/the-deep-disgust-for-hillary-clinton-that-drives-so-many-evangelicals-to-support-trump/ I accept Trump not because I like Trump but I dislike the other option more - the establishment and Hillary. Us Bernie supporters were robbed of our democracy and election from right under this during Democratic primaries. That is why I'd rather see the country burn with 4 years of Trump than succumb to the rule of the Establishment taking away wealth, equality, voice, and now even the votes of the Middle class. Rigging the election is fucked up - I'm sure it happens every election, but this election, it was a serious case. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On October 10 2016 12:46 travis wrote: well out of curiosity i looked at some random polls online and most of them were very heavily skewed for trump so w/e like I said, I shall not put stock in polls. I mean... look at the poll above us and this site is pretty intellectual, which is probably in general more skewed for hillary than trump compared to the average american That's because online polls aren't good predictors at all, since determined people can and will vote multiple times to skew results. r/the_donald, for instance, constantly posts links to any and all online polls and gives instructions on how to refresh your IP to vote multiple times. For instance on this site, the last debate poll it was an overwhelming Clinton victory by most respected pollsters (and here as well before the brigades showed up, was like 80-20ish Clinton vs Trump for a good few hours, before a mass of votes came in to swap it over to like 60-40 Trump). For the first 30 minutes after this poll went up after the debate, it was a tie between Clinton wins, Clinton supporter, and "Tie". I assume we're getting bandwagoned from somewhere since the poll shot rapidly in the other direction. The CNN flash poll doesn't allow multiple votes and is much more respected, and is actually considered one of the better/best debate polls. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:15 parkufarku wrote: I accept Trump not because I like Trump but I dislike the other option more - the establishment and Hillary. Us Bernie supporters were robbed of our democracy and election from right under this during Democratic primaries. That is why I'd rather see the country burn with 4 years of Trump than succumb to the rule of the Establishment taking away wealth, equality, voice, and now even the votes of the Middle class. Rigging the election is fucked up - I'm sure it happens every election, but this election, it was a serious case. Yup, because that makes so much sense. Vote to potentially ruin the lives of countless millions of people by supporting a clueless egomaniac just because you're salty about losing the primary. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:10 LegalLord wrote: Well in any case, judging by Trump's effective damage control tonight, I think it's clear that this shitshow of a campaign will go on. Didn't catch the debate but this is what it looks like from what's being reported. Did Hillary really flub this that badly with everything stacked in her favor? I guess that's the running theme of this entire campaign isn't it. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On October 10 2016 12:46 travis wrote: well out of curiosity i looked at some random polls online and most of them were very heavily skewed for trump so w/e like I said, I shall not put stock in polls. I mean... look at the poll above us and this site is pretty intellectual, which is probably in general more skewed for hillary than trump compared to the average american That's because online polls aren't good predictors at all, since determined people can and will vote multiple times to skew results. r/the_donald, for instance, constantly posts links to any and all online polls and gives instructions on how to refresh your IP to vote multiple times, or runs bots to do that. For instance on this site, the last debate poll it was an overwhelming Clinton victory by most respected pollsters (and here as well before the brigades showed up, was like 80-20ish Clinton vs Trump for a good few hours, before a mass of votes came in to swap it over to like 60-40 Trump). For the first 30 minutes after this poll went up after the debate, it was a tie between Clinton wins, Clinton supporter, and "Tie". I assume we're getting brigaded from somewhere since the poll shot rapidly in the other direction with both "Trump and I supported Hillary, and Trump and I supported Trump" responses. The CNN flash poll doesn't allow multiple votes and is much more respected, and is actually considered one of the better/best debate polls. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On October 10 2016 13:13 Nevuk wrote: Yes, nothing will happen, don't worry, he's only calling for his supporters to assassinate her if he loses or jail her if he wins. He has to protect their precious feelings Thank god his supporters aren't the ones stupid enough to think that's what he's asking them to do. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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LegalLord
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