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On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old?
And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s.
There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance.
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On October 01 2016 02:32 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old? And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s. There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance.
Trump treats everyone and anyone like complete shit if given the chance, it's just who he is. You are holding him to the standard of a politician, he isn't now and he never will be. I prefer an asshole to a sociopath
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On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny?
Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist?
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On October 01 2016 02:35 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist?
I don't care what it's seen as by sensitive liberals, he isn't sexist because his attacks on men and women are equal. It is you who is sexist who considers women too weak to handle insults like "miss piggy." just call him what he is, an asshole.
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On October 01 2016 02:21 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. you say that, but then she's currently ahead in: Florida (+1.6) Ohio (is a +0.2 for her according to 538 atm though I really have no idea how they got to that) North Carolina (+0.9) Nevada (+1.7) sure, those are all super small edges but to put it in contrast, Trumps lead in Arizona is only +2.3 so unless Trump outperforms himself like crazy it surely isn't looking good for him atm //Edit: I mean at the very least he's going to rebound enough to get Ohio and NC back eventually but he still needs Florida (which will probably be a coinflip) and then Nevada and Colorada? He needs to be ahead in all of those states I'm not entirely sure what you're looking at. I'm just looking at the RCP average of all polls.
example (Nevada):
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I'm not quite sure plain average is doing a great service for this case. I highlighted pre/post Debate with the black line
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On October 01 2016 02:34 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:32 Plansix wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old? And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s. There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance. Trump treats everyone and anyone like complete shit if given the chance, it's just who he is. You are holding him to the standard of a politician, he isn't now and he never will be. I prefer an asshole to a sociopath
Well, he's both.
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On October 01 2016 02:34 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:32 Plansix wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old? And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s. There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance. Trump treats everyone and anyone like complete shit if given the chance, it's just who he is. You are holding him to the standard of a politician, he isn't now and he never will be. I prefer an asshole to a sociopath
what about someone who's both an asshole AND a sociopath?
edit: pesky ninjas
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On October 01 2016 02:37 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:35 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist? I don't care what it's seen as by sensitive liberals, he isn't sexist because his attacks on men and women are equal. It is you who is sexist who considers women too weak to handle insults like "miss piggy." just call him what he is, an asshole.
People like you who secede from reality are truly fascinating. Next what? BLM is a racist movement because they consider Black too weak to handle cop bullets?
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On October 01 2016 02:37 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:34 biology]major wrote:On October 01 2016 02:32 Plansix wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old? And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s. There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance. Trump treats everyone and anyone like complete shit if given the chance, it's just who he is. You are holding him to the standard of a politician, he isn't now and he never will be. I prefer an asshole to a sociopath Well, he's both.
If he was playing 7D underwater blindfolded starcraft, yes I would call him a sociopath. He however is playing regular checkers, and is being himself throughout all the restraints and influences of his own party. He is simply himself, and is not intelligent enough or calculating enough to be a sociopath.
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On October 01 2016 02:40 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:37 biology]major wrote:On October 01 2016 02:35 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist? I don't care what it's seen as by sensitive liberals, he isn't sexist because his attacks on men and women are equal. It is you who is sexist who considers women too weak to handle insults like "miss piggy." just call him what he is, an asshole. People like you who secede from reality are truly fascinating. Next what? BLM is a racist movement because they consider Black too weak to handle cop bullets?
Notice the escalation here from a benign insult such as "miss piggy" to black people too weak to handle cop bullets. It is you divorced from reality, that you are even unable to draw a line between the two.
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On October 01 2016 02:37 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:21 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. you say that, but then she's currently ahead in: Florida (+1.6) Ohio (is a +0.2 for her according to 538 atm though I really have no idea how they got to that) North Carolina (+0.9) Nevada (+1.7) sure, those are all super small edges but to put it in contrast, Trumps lead in Arizona is only +2.3 so unless Trump outperforms himself like crazy it surely isn't looking good for him atm //Edit: I mean at the very least he's going to rebound enough to get Ohio and NC back eventually but he still needs Florida (which will probably be a coinflip) and then Nevada and Colorada? He needs to be ahead in all of those states I'm not entirely sure what you're looking at. I'm just looking at the RCP average of all polls. example (Nevada): I'm not quite sure plain average is doing a great service for this case. I highlighted pre/post Debate with the black line
RCP also kind of adds and drops polls arbitrarily. use a different polling aggregator like huffpo for the full picture.
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On October 01 2016 02:37 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:35 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist? I don't care what it's seen as by sensitive liberals, he isn't sexist because his attacks on men and women are equal. It is you who is sexist who considers women too weak to handle insults like "miss piggy." just call him what he is, an asshole.
No, that means he's a sexist and an asshole, those things aren't mutually exclusive
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On October 01 2016 02:23 CannonsNCarriers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:19 oBlade wrote:On October 01 2016 00:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
(check out sex tape and past) Cheating sex on TV and driving the getaway car for an attempted murder. Trump's biggest episode of misogyny yet, what kind of monster would judge the winner of a beauty pageant's looks. Do you see how you took the bait? You didn't even bother to link anything supporting your feeble accusations. All this does is ensure that all the terrible things that Trump said about Machado stay in the news for another week. "Fat", "Miss Housekeeping", these are put downs that anyone can understand. You and Trump's shitlording of Machado will be your collective doom.
You can't google it? This is a case of educate yourself, right? The Clinton campaign, and the wonderful media as you pointed out, think beauty pageant drama from 20 years ago is a national issue when the election is down to a little more than a month away - this is why the election will get snatched from them.
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On October 01 2016 02:43 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:37 biology]major wrote:On October 01 2016 02:35 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist? I don't care what it's seen as by sensitive liberals, he isn't sexist because his attacks on men and women are equal. It is you who is sexist who considers women too weak to handle insults like "miss piggy." just call him what he is, an asshole. No, that means he's a sexist and an asshole, those things aren't mutually exclusive
So what is the word when he insults a man? Is he only an asshole and not a sexist?
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On October 01 2016 02:41 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:37 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:34 biology]major wrote:On October 01 2016 02:32 Plansix wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old? And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s. There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance. Trump treats everyone and anyone like complete shit if given the chance, it's just who he is. You are holding him to the standard of a politician, he isn't now and he never will be. I prefer an asshole to a sociopath Well, he's both. If he was playing 7D underwater blindfolded starcraft, yes I would call him a sociopath. He however is playing regular checkers, and is being himself throughout all the restraints and influences of his own party. He is simply himself, and is not intelligent enough or calculating enough to be a sociopath.
Uh, you don't have to be intelligent or calculating to be a sociopath. It's true that sociopaths are often intelligent or calculating, but all you have to do is display an utter lack of empathy for other people to qualify as one.
On October 01 2016 02:45 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:23 CannonsNCarriers wrote:On October 01 2016 02:19 oBlade wrote:Cheating sex on TV and driving the getaway car for an attempted murder. Trump's biggest episode of misogyny yet, what kind of monster would judge the winner of a beauty pageant's looks. Do you see how you took the bait? You didn't even bother to link anything supporting your feeble accusations. All this does is ensure that all the terrible things that Trump said about Machado stay in the news for another week. "Fat", "Miss Housekeeping", these are put downs that anyone can understand. You and Trump's shitlording of Machado will be your collective doom. You can't google it? This is a case of educate yourself, right? The Clinton campaign, and the wonderful media as you pointed out, think beauty pageant drama from 20 years ago is a national issue when the election is down to a little more than a month away - this is why the election will get snatched from them.
Nah, the media's reporting on Trump's bizarre reaction to pageant drama from 20 years ago now and his complete and utter inability to exercise self-control. The national issue is he has 0 restraint, tact, or ability to control what comes out of his mouth.
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On October 01 2016 02:41 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:37 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:34 biology]major wrote:On October 01 2016 02:32 Plansix wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
Publicly? And holding a press conference where she works out, without telling her, to prove that she is working out? And telling the reporters that she loves to eat and that is a flaw? When she is 20 year old? And then doing it again in 2016. Because all that shit happened in the 90s. There is no time when Trump has not treated women like complete shit when given the chance. Trump treats everyone and anyone like complete shit if given the chance, it's just who he is. You are holding him to the standard of a politician, he isn't now and he never will be. I prefer an asshole to a sociopath Well, he's both. If he was playing 7D underwater blindfolded starcraft, yes I would call him a sociopath. He however is playing regular checkers, and is being himself throughout all the restraints and influences of his own party. He is simply himself, and is not intelligent enough or calculating enough to be a sociopath.
When you're forced to defend your candidate from accusations of being a sociopath by going "sure, he looks like a sociopath but he's not smart or calculating enough for that to be true" it might be time to stop supporting him for President.
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On October 01 2016 02:41 biology]major wrote:
If he was playing 7D underwater blindfolded starcraft, yes I would call him a sociopath. He however is playing regular checkers, and is being himself throughout all the restraints and influences of his own party. He is simply himself, and is not intelligent enough or calculating enough to be a sociopath.
You should look up what a sociopath is because intelligence is not a prerequisite for sociopathy.
Granted, I don't really believe that Trump is a sociopath, but "he's not smart enough to be a sociopath" isn't how you defend this line of reasoning.
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On October 01 2016 02:46 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:41 biology]major wrote:
If he was playing 7D underwater blindfolded starcraft, yes I would call him a sociopath. He however is playing regular checkers, and is being himself throughout all the restraints and influences of his own party. He is simply himself, and is not intelligent enough or calculating enough to be a sociopath. You should look up what a sociopath is because intelligence is not a prerequisite for sociopathy. Granted, I don't really believe that Trump is a sociopath, but "he's not smart enough to be a sociopath" isn't how you defend this line of reasoning.
its the same reasoning for he didnt lie because he didnt know
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On October 01 2016 02:45 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:43 Nyxisto wrote:On October 01 2016 02:37 biology]major wrote:On October 01 2016 02:35 TheDwf wrote:On October 01 2016 02:26 biology]major wrote:
How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? Are you seriously asking why calling a woman “Miss Piggy” is seen as sexist? I don't care what it's seen as by sensitive liberals, he isn't sexist because his attacks on men and women are equal. It is you who is sexist who considers women too weak to handle insults like "miss piggy." just call him what he is, an asshole. No, that means he's a sexist and an asshole, those things aren't mutually exclusive So what is the word when he insults a man? Is he only an asshole and not a sexist?
If he had ever insulted a man for being a man then he'd also act sexist against men. He's never done this. You can also insult women without being a sexist. But reducing women to their looks or her menstrual periods is sexist.
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On October 01 2016 02:45 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:23 CannonsNCarriers wrote:On October 01 2016 02:19 oBlade wrote:Cheating sex on TV and driving the getaway car for an attempted murder. Trump's biggest episode of misogyny yet, what kind of monster would judge the winner of a beauty pageant's looks. Do you see how you took the bait? You didn't even bother to link anything supporting your feeble accusations. All this does is ensure that all the terrible things that Trump said about Machado stay in the news for another week. "Fat", "Miss Housekeeping", these are put downs that anyone can understand. You and Trump's shitlording of Machado will be your collective doom. You can't google it? This is a case of educate yourself, right? The Clinton campaign, and the wonderful media as you pointed out, think beauty pageant drama from 20 years ago is a national issue when the election is down to a little more than a month away - this is why the election will get snatched from them.
The real reason you didn't link was because the links don't help. This has already been investigated and again, Trump is lying and taking you with him on his lies.
MOSTLY FALSE
However, the so-called "sex tape" stemming from that incident is perhaps the tamest video ever to be so termed, consisting of nothing more than some grainy, night-vision footage of a couple of covered figures writhing in a bed. And reality television being what it is, the scene the tape depicts was quite possibly staged or fabricated.
Alicia Machado did pose topless for Playboy magazine, though.
http://www.snopes.com/alicia-machado-adult-star/
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