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On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point.
Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win.
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As I see it he needs all the help he can get, mostly to stay out of his own way, but also to tip some of Clinton's least loyal voters to a 3rd party candidate at the very least.
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On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win.
Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around.
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This election cycle in a nutshell:
1. Trump gets trolled and says stupid things that piss off potential voters. Polls become about +3 Clinton.
2. Hillary gets caught lying stupidly on stuff her supporters defend her on but that most people see badly. Polls become about tied.
3. Return to (1).
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On October 01 2016 01:45 LegalLord wrote:
This election cycle in a nutshell:
1. Trump gets trolled and says stupid things that piss off potential voters. Polls become about +3 Clinton.
2. Hillary gets caught lying stupidly on stuff her supporters defend her on but that most people see badly. Polls become about tied.
3. Return to (1).
At least the post-convention cycle.
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On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around.
you say that, but then she's currently ahead in:
Florida (+1.6)
Ohio (is a +0.2 for her according to 538 atm though I really have no idea how they got to that)
North Carolina (+0.9)
Nevada (+1.7)
sure, those are all super small edges but to put it in contrast, Trumps lead in Arizona is only +2.3 so unless Trump outperforms himself like crazy it surely isn't looking good for him atm
//Edit: I mean at the very least he's going to rebound enough to get Ohio and NC back eventually but he still needs Florida (which will probably be a coinflip) and then Nevada and Colorada? He needs to be ahead in all of those states
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On October 01 2016 01:05 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:00 Grumbels wrote:“Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.
What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.
“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,”
haha, Trump and his whacky sex life that we can all laugh about ?! Don't see what's funny in reading the description of a rape...
It is in context of danglars earlier comment about laughing about some creepy sexual tweet by trump, which I can't find funny given his history.
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On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around.
If you genuinely believe there's going to be no debate effect whatsoever (which is not being borne out thus far in actual polls conducted since the debate that show a Clinton bounce), that the Cuban issue won't drop his Florida numbers, and that this current spate of asinine behavior will have 0 effect on the polls...
Trump still won't secure the electoral votes he needs to win.
So I'm not sure how you can rationalize him not needing help. Unless we're entering the Romney zone again where data was being just ignored when inconvenient.
On October 01 2016 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. you say that, but then she's currently ahead in: Florida (+1.6) Ohio (is a +0.2 for her according to 538 atm though I really have no idea how they got to that) North Carolina (+0.9) Nevada (+1.7) sure, those are all super small edges but to put it in contrast, Trumps lead in Arizona is only +2.3 so unless Trump outperforms himself like crazy it surely isn't looking good for him atm //Edit: I mean at the very least he's going to rebound enough to get Ohio and NC back eventually but he still needs Florida (which will probably be a coinflip) and then Nevada and Colorada? He needs to be ahead in all of those states
The crown jewel is that none of those states are even necessary to get Clinton to 270.
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On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around.
Ban bet?
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On October 01 2016 02:06 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. Ban bet?
Isn't the best part about correctly predicting the end of an election being able to revel in the reaction of the people who lost?
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On October 01 2016 02:07 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 02:06 KwarK wrote:On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. Ban bet? Isn't the best part about correctly predicting the end of an election being able to revel in the reaction of the people who lost?
Yeah but we already saw xDaunt swear over and over that all the polls were wrong in the run up to 2012. And that was fun xDaunt, not the racist 2016 edition.
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On October 01 2016 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. you say that, but then she's currently ahead in: Florida (+1.6) Ohio (is a +0.2 for her according to 538 atm though I really have no idea how they got to that) North Carolina (+0.9) Nevada (+1.7) sure, those are all super small edges but to put it in contrast, Trumps lead in Arizona is only +2.3 so unless Trump outperforms himself like crazy it surely isn't looking good for him atm //Edit: I mean at the very least he's going to rebound enough to get Ohio and NC back eventually but he still needs Florida (which will probably be a coinflip) and then Nevada and Colorada? He needs to be ahead in all of those states
Are there any odds for <25% voter turnout. I would be willing to take that bet. lol
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On October 01 2016 00:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
(check out sex tape and past)
Cheating sex on TV and driving the getaway car for an attempted murder. Trump's biggest episode of misogyny yet, what kind of monster would judge the winner of a beauty pageant's looks.
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On October 01 2016 01:03 xDaunt wrote:
I'm kinda amused that Hillary has picked such a flawed and problematic vehicle to attack Trump with. I don't think that this is going to play as well as she wants.
False. She was the perfect bait. Just enough to accuse her of but be unable to prove. Partisans like yourself gobble those accusations up and keep the media cycle spinning. Then Trump himself goes on an insecurity bender until 5:30AM to keep it going into the weekend.
If she was a flawed vehicle for this attack, then Trump and his partisan Trumplickers would have been able to avoid the bait. Instead, HRC again plays Trump and his throng perfectly.
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On October 01 2016 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around. you say that, but then she's currently ahead in: Florida (+1.6) Ohio (is a +0.2 for her according to 538 atm though I really have no idea how they got to that) North Carolina (+0.9) Nevada (+1.7) sure, those are all super small edges but to put it in contrast, Trumps lead in Arizona is only +2.3 so unless Trump outperforms himself like crazy it surely isn't looking good for him atm //Edit: I mean at the very least he's going to rebound enough to get Ohio and NC back eventually but he still needs Florida (which will probably be a coinflip) and then Nevada and Colorada? He needs to be ahead in all of those states
I'm not entirely sure what you're looking at. I'm just looking at the RCP average of all polls.
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On October 01 2016 02:19 oBlade wrote:Cheating sex on TV and driving the getaway car for an attempted murder. Trump's biggest episode of misogyny yet, what kind of monster would judge the winner of a beauty pageant's looks.
Do you see how you took the bait? You didn't even bother to link anything supporting your feeble accusations. All this does is ensure that all the terrible things that Trump said about Machado stay in the news for another week. "Fat", "Miss Housekeeping", these are put downs that anyone can understand. You and Trump's shitlording of Machado will be your collective doom.
EDIT: let me spell it out. The media love X v. Y, he said she said stories. They can report what both sides say, and avoid doing any analysis, while at the same time generating clicks/views. Trump getting into a Trump v. Machado accusation war ensures that all the reprehensible stuff that Trump said to Machado will get endlessly looped for the next week. The deeper Trump goes in unsubstantiated accusations against Machado, the more the media will repeat Trump documented and admitted misogynist statements against Machado.
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Very interested to see the full effect of polls which began after the debate.
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How is critiquing a model for her weight misogyny? That is literally her job. She had mental issues far before the whole trump comments on her weight by her own admission, this is just being used by HRC for political effect and nothing more. Trump shouldn't bother with it, and hes making a mistake with these stupid twitter rants.
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On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 01:33 Trainrunnef wrote:On October 01 2016 01:24 xDaunt wrote:On October 01 2016 01:20 Dan HH wrote:Where's the 'bomb' about Hillary that Assange was hyping up all summer? Donnie better pray that wasn't bullshit, cause he's screwed without another Hillary scandal. There's still time. But frankly, I'm not sure that Trump needs any help at this point. Sorry for questioning this, but is it genuinely your opinion that you think he has good chances of winning this race with the current situation? I wont discount that he has significant support from the so- called "silent majority", but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it is so overwhelming that he doesn't need help to win. Of course. Why wouldn't I think that Trump can win? If all you do is read this forum and this thread, you might as well be reading Trump's eulogy. But the polling is very tight, with Trump holding leads in several swing states. The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio. I'm sure that Trump will take whatever external help that he can get. My point is only that he's still in position to win this thing, despite all of the nonsense floating around.
I see you're still in the denial stage. I've said that I don't expect the debates to have a big effect in the polls but I was wrong, this is already as big of a bump as the deplorables+feinting combo and what we're seeing is still only the partial effect of the debate because it's only been 4 days, and we don't yet have any of the effect of his flurry of post-debate fuckups on which the dust will settle several days from now.
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On September 30 2016 13:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 13:28 Danglars wrote:On September 30 2016 11:21 Nevuk wrote:On September 30 2016 11:07 Danglars wrote:On September 30 2016 10:26 Nevuk wrote:
Frankly, it's kind of disgusting that the american system let's a man get away with all the shit Trump has pulled until a concerted effort is actually made to look into his business dealings for political reasons (no one would be investigating half the things that have come out recently if he weren't running for president). We learned about Clinton's private email server years later, despite at least two warnings from state department officials. Clinton foundation higher-ups had intimate connections with the state department such as hiring and firing, and major donors to the foundation got favors from the state department. I can only wonder how the Obama administration let that go on that long. Disgusting! No one would care about that at all if Clinton weren't in politics either. I'm saying that a man who treated tenants and business partners the way he has should be in jail, period. I don't care if he's in politics or not - his behavior is flat out unacceptable and it shouldn't have taken this long to find out about his absurdly shady foundation. That lack of vetting seems pretty bad on the part of the GOP. It has nothing to do with his opponent, who I'm not a huge fan of either. It has to do with the system that allows parasitic scum like Trump to exist in the first place. You know I have met some cynical people in life. But it takes someone especially callous to think selling government influence and putting her own secrecy obsession above national security is not of interest. Add to that how long she got away with it, just like you were concerned with Trump's. Maybe what America needs is Trump to serve four years, and next time nominate a better opposing candidate that won't make Nixon look like Saint George. Hell, the journalism alone might be a boon to the next generation to see what speaking truth to power really looks like. Constantly amazes me how entrenched the party lines are in the US. You basically have a cartoon villain running for President. I will just leave this low content post here:
Donald Drumpf
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On October 01 2016 01:38 xDaunt wrote:
The Clinton campaign has already given up Ohio
Actually no it hasn't
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