US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5230

On September 28 2016 05:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's interesting to consider if Obama could have managed to peel off a couple Republicans for the ACA if he'd been willing to sit down face to face with people and do some old-fashioned glad handing (which by all accounts he hates doing, and his inability to do so was one of his biggest weaknesses). However, given McConnell's declaration to make Obama a one term president, I doubt it.

On September 28 2016 05:36 Nevuk wrote:

It probably would have helped in the house, however.

On September 28 2016 05:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:


That's a fair argument, the charity stuff would be pretty bad.

I just think the exact net worth of Trump, and how much taxes he pays are not very important things imo... But it's what most people are harping on. The charity stuff is a fair argument though, though I was told that it's not what the IRS looks at when they are auditing him, so I'm not sure how it'd be represented in his tax returns either.

On September 28 2016 04:59 KwarK wrote:

In the 3 minutes before the candidates even came onto the stage there was too much information available to make the bet fair. The odds were shifted by those empty podiums and you couldn't be expected to stick to the agreed terms. That's why you had to withdraw from the bet. It's just a coincidence that you withdrew after the debate was complete and your horse lost. But nobody could think there was anything wrong with withdrawing from it after you already had information that impacted it like watching the whole debate, after all, the other guy only agreed to it after getting information from those empty podiums so who is the real bad guy here.

On September 28 2016 05:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
Is there any reason cops who are raising their hoods to block dash cams shouldn't be arrested on sight?

On September 28 2016 05:50 zlefin wrote:

nothing other than that it is politically infeasible to do so.

On September 28 2016 05:43 Rebs wrote:


Yo slow down Charlotte police, wrong suspect. Now that the identity issue is resolved, please view the post through the lens that is sarcasm..

On September 28 2016 05:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
Is there any reason cops who are raising their hoods to block dash cams shouldn't be arrested on sight?

On September 28 2016 06:00 Mohdoo wrote:


I would be absolutely terrified if I saw a cop raise his hood to block the dash cam. In fact, it may make me feel like my life was in danger and that I needed to do whatever it takes to get out alive.

On September 28 2016 06:00 KwarK wrote:

I understood your post. Wasn't disagreeing with you.

On September 28 2016 06:05 Plansix wrote:

There are a number pictures of cops cop with the hoods raised floating around the internet. They are without context or any further information, so I am waiting on more information. But police also drive real cars that break down and sometimes help people by providing jump to the battery.

The U.S. government has agreed to pay a total of $492 million to 17 American Indian tribes for mismanaging natural resources and other tribal assets, according to an attorney who filed most of the suits.

In a joint press release by the Departments of Interior and Justice, Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewel said, "Settling these long-standing disputes reflects the Obama Administration's continued commitment to reconciliation and empowerment for Indian Country."

The settlements mark the end of a push by the Obama administration to resolve what the U.S. says is more than 100 lawsuits totaling more than $3.3 billion brought by American Indian individuals and tribal governments against the federal government. The policy of reaching settlements on the disputes, some of which date back more than a century, is part of a campaign promise the president made to American Indians before he took office.

"Few have been ignored by Washington as long as Native Americans, the first Americans. Too often, Washington has paid lip-service to working with tribes," then-candidate Obama said in a speech at the Crow Nation Reservation in Montana in May 2008. "My Indian policy starts with honoring the unique government to government relationship, and ensuring treaty responsibilities are met."

Those treaty responsibilities include agreements dating back to the 1800s that made the U.S. government the trustee for huge swaths of tribal land. The Department of the Interior says it manages almost 56 million acres of land on behalf of tribes, and handles at least 100,000 leases on that land for a wide variety of uses including housing, timber harvest, farming, livestock grazing, oil and gas extraction. More than 250 tribes have some assets held in trust by the federal government.

Under those trust agreements, the U.S. government must make sure tribes receive "just compensation" for the use of their land or resources. "The government bought the land from Indians, but it didn't pay the Indians," says Melody McCoy, a staff attorney with the Native American Rights Fund who has spent 20 years handling lawsuits against the federal government over alleged trust mismanagement and underpayment.

On September 28 2016 06:12 GreenHorizons wrote:


I've literally been refused several times for specifically that. Cop said they weren't allowed to. Wouldn't be even slightly surprised to find out they lied though. But we know criminal cops have been manipulating what the cameras see since they first started getting used.

At this point though I don't know what could actually get people to give enough of a damn to actually do something about these criminals acting on behalf of the government.