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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 18:48 GMT
#104541
Man, the moment when he said ordering an unprovoked attack Iran’s ships wouldn’t be an act of war disturbing. The man just doesn’t understand how wars start.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 27 2016 18:49 GMT
#104542
On September 28 2016 03:48 Plansix wrote:
Man, the moment when he said ordering an unprovoked attack Iran’s ships wouldn’t be an act of war disturbing. The man just doesn’t understand how wars start.


well this is the same guy who said maybe the second amendment folks can do something about hillary
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angrybacon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States98 Posts
September 27 2016 18:51 GMT
#104543
On September 28 2016 03:48 Plansix wrote:
Man, the moment when he said ordering an unprovoked attack Iran’s ships wouldn’t be an act of war disturbing. The man just doesn’t understand how wars start.


I'm just as disturbed that I haven't seen the media pick up on that detail yet. I was also disturbed about him not understanding the purpose or history of NATO, but that's nothing new.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 18:53 GMT
#104544
On September 28 2016 03:51 angrybacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:48 Plansix wrote:
Man, the moment when he said ordering an unprovoked attack Iran’s ships wouldn’t be an act of war disturbing. The man just doesn’t understand how wars start.


I'm just as disturbed that I haven't seen the media pick up on that detail yet. I was also disturbed about him not understanding the purpose or history of NATO, but that's nothing new.


Well you have to take into account he "hasn't thought about NATO much" as he said.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45040 Posts
September 27 2016 18:55 GMT
#104545
On September 28 2016 03:34 KwarK wrote:
I'd watch that if the rule was that people had to answer in the style of their candidate. So you can't just write what Trump should say, you'd have to right what Trump would say.


Can we debate using only emoticons?

Moderator: Muslims?
Trump:

Moderator: Blacks?
Trump:

Moderator: Women?
Trump:

Moderator: Foreign policy? Jobs? Education? Science? Other important subjects?
Trump:

Moderator: Anything else?
Trump:

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"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 27 2016 18:55 GMT
#104546
CNN says total viewership was "significantly higher than 80 million" and there was no significant drop-off of viewers throughout the debate.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45040 Posts
September 27 2016 18:56 GMT
#104547
On September 28 2016 03:45 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:40 Sermokala wrote:
I rememeber nothing from last night but I don't see anything interesting happened so I don't care now.


Trump:
- Sinking an Iranian ship in international waters would not cause war
- Stop and frisk is constitutional
- Many people agree with Trump calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig
- Being under audit prevents him from releasing tax returns
- Took credit for forcing Obama to release his tax returns


Birth certificate*?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23464 Posts
September 27 2016 18:57 GMT
#104548
Looks like I was right about both candidates planning on goosing the economy by providing a tax holiday to bring in the money that's been sitting offshore.

Hope people aren't surprised when it's used to mask making inequality worse in the long term.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
angrybacon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States98 Posts
September 27 2016 18:58 GMT
#104549
On September 28 2016 03:45 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:40 Sermokala wrote:
I rememeber nothing from last night but I don't see anything interesting happened so I don't care now.


Trump:
- Sinking an Iranian ship in international waters would not cause war
- Stop and frisk is constitutional
- Many people agree with Trump calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig
- Being under audit prevents him from releasing tax returns
- Took credit for forcing Obama to release his tax returns


Also:

- Claims his temperament is his greatest asset
- Is proud of not paying any taxes
- Said "Wrong!" more times than I cared to count, and was usually incorrect in doing so
- Blamed his microphone for his performance
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21952 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 18:58:23
September 27 2016 18:58 GMT
#104550
On September 28 2016 03:48 Plansix wrote:
Man, the moment when he said ordering an unprovoked attack Iran’s ships wouldn’t be an act of war disturbing. The man just doesn’t understand how wars start.

I mean there is also the "Why are we not nuking people" thing he did earlier.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
angrybacon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States98 Posts
September 27 2016 18:59 GMT
#104551
On September 28 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Looks like I was right about both candidates planning on goosing the economy by providing a tax holiday to bring in the money that's been sitting offshore.

Hope people aren't surprised when it's used to mask making inequality worse in the long term.


What would you do to bring in offshore tax dollars?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23464 Posts
September 27 2016 19:00 GMT
#104552
On September 28 2016 03:59 angrybacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Looks like I was right about both candidates planning on goosing the economy by providing a tax holiday to bring in the money that's been sitting offshore.

Hope people aren't surprised when it's used to mask making inequality worse in the long term.


What would you do to bring in offshore tax dollars?


Actually address the issue, instead of just saying you wish you could tax it at a fair rate and then arguing until it's decided that we're just going to give them a pass this time (like every other time).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
September 27 2016 19:01 GMT
#104553
On September 28 2016 03:45 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:40 Sermokala wrote:
I rememeber nothing from last night but I don't see anything interesting happened so I don't care now.


Trump:
- Sinking an Iranian ship in international waters would not cause war
- Stop and frisk is constitutional
- Many people agree with Trump calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig
- Being under audit prevents him from releasing tax returns
- Took credit for forcing Obama to release his tax returns

I'd be surprised but I'm really not. That makes perfect sense for something trump would say.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
angrybacon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States98 Posts
September 27 2016 19:02 GMT
#104554
On September 28 2016 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:59 angrybacon wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Looks like I was right about both candidates planning on goosing the economy by providing a tax holiday to bring in the money that's been sitting offshore.

Hope people aren't surprised when it's used to mask making inequality worse in the long term.


What would you do to bring in offshore tax dollars?


Actually address the issue, instead of just saying you wish you could tax it at a fair rate and then arguing until it's decided that we're just going to give them a pass this time (like every other time).


The stuff that I've seen involved a one time reduced tax, not a pass altogether, but perhaps I'm misinformed.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 19:02 GMT
#104555
On September 28 2016 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:59 angrybacon wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Looks like I was right about both candidates planning on goosing the economy by providing a tax holiday to bring in the money that's been sitting offshore.

Hope people aren't surprised when it's used to mask making inequality worse in the long term.


What would you do to bring in offshore tax dollars?


Actually address the issue, instead of just saying you wish you could tax it at a fair rate and then arguing until it's decided that we're just going to give them a pass this time (like every other time).


How do you tax it at a fair rate when you have almost half of congress outright saying that under no circumstances whatsoever they will raise taxes. You can not unilaterally as president decide to tax people.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
September 27 2016 19:04 GMT
#104556
On September 28 2016 03:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:45 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:40 Sermokala wrote:
I rememeber nothing from last night but I don't see anything interesting happened so I don't care now.


Trump:
- Sinking an Iranian ship in international waters would not cause war
- Stop and frisk is constitutional
- Many people agree with Trump calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig
- Being under audit prevents him from releasing tax returns
- Took credit for forcing Obama to release his tax returns


Birth certificate*?

Er, yes. Thanks I'll edit now.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23464 Posts
September 27 2016 19:04 GMT
#104557
On September 28 2016 04:02 angrybacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:59 angrybacon wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Looks like I was right about both candidates planning on goosing the economy by providing a tax holiday to bring in the money that's been sitting offshore.

Hope people aren't surprised when it's used to mask making inequality worse in the long term.


What would you do to bring in offshore tax dollars?


Actually address the issue, instead of just saying you wish you could tax it at a fair rate and then arguing until it's decided that we're just going to give them a pass this time (like every other time).


The stuff that I've seen involved a one time reduced tax, not a pass altogether, but perhaps I'm misinformed.


Yes, it does, every time they do it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 19:06:10
September 27 2016 19:05 GMT
#104558
Whine whine whine, the moderator asked me about my history of conspiracy-theorist-in-chief and my blatant lies about the Iraq war, it's so unfair, it's so biaised, whine whine whine.

On top of having no decency, the guy has no class. When confronted with his years of spreading birtherist craps, he immediately dodges responsibility and blames someone else. He's like a kid blaming his brother for a mischief he's done. It's fucking pathetic.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 19:33:58
September 27 2016 19:31 GMT
#104559
On September 28 2016 03:58 angrybacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:45 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:40 Sermokala wrote:
I rememeber nothing from last night but I don't see anything interesting happened so I don't care now.


Trump:
- Sinking an Iranian ship in international waters would not cause war
- Stop and frisk is constitutional
- Many people agree with Trump calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig
- Being under audit prevents him from releasing tax returns
- Took credit for forcing Obama to release his tax returns


Also:

- Claims his temperament is his greatest asset
- Is proud of not paying any taxes
- Said "Wrong!" more times than I cared to count, and was usually incorrect in doing so
- Blamed his microphone for his performance


The one thing that I genuinely think is a good thing is "him not paying taxes".

Of course if the system is so silly that he could get away without paying taxes, why wouldn't he? But he's fighting to change that.

Mostly everything was awful. Another awful moment was about the tax returns, he then says he will release them if Hillary releases her emails, and then the moderator asks if it's negotiable, and he says no, wtf Trump -__-.

But yeah, just a rough rough time, curious to see how large of a shift in the polls it'll be. Imo it should be an easy 3 points, which would bring Trump chances for 45% to like 25% on 538, but we will see.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
angrybacon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States98 Posts
September 27 2016 19:37 GMT
#104560
On September 28 2016 04:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 03:58 angrybacon wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:45 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 28 2016 03:40 Sermokala wrote:
I rememeber nothing from last night but I don't see anything interesting happened so I don't care now.


Trump:
- Sinking an Iranian ship in international waters would not cause war
- Stop and frisk is constitutional
- Many people agree with Trump calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig
- Being under audit prevents him from releasing tax returns
- Took credit for forcing Obama to release his tax returns


Also:

- Claims his temperament is his greatest asset
- Is proud of not paying any taxes
- Said "Wrong!" more times than I cared to count, and was usually incorrect in doing so
- Blamed his microphone for his performance


The one thing that I genuinely think is a good thing is "him not paying taxes".

Of course if the system is so silly that he could get away without paying taxes, why wouldn't he? But he's fighting to change that.

Mostly everything was awful. Another awful moment was about the tax returns, he then says he will release them if Hillary releases her emails, and then the moderator asks if it's negotiable, and he says no, wtf Trump -__-.

But yeah, just a rough rough time, curious to see how large of a shift in the polls it'll be. Imo it should be an easy 3 points, which would bring Trump chances for 45% to like 25% on 538, but we will see.



He also said he "may" release his tax returns when Obama releases his birth certificate back in 2011. http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/04/since-president-obama-released-his-birth-certificate-will-donald-trump-release-his-tax-returns.html

But, now that he's admitted to paying no taxes and is proud of it, what does he have left to lose from releasing his returns?
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