US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4614

On August 02 2016 11:42 a_flayer wrote:
It is mind boggling to me that "socialism" is seen as something bad by some people.

Yeah, lets not be social about things. Lets not take care of each other. Lets be dicks and cunts instead. People seem to forget that the tribes of old have expanded into millions of people and now we must take care of each other instead of just our tiny little tribe of 100 people. You can't let the "they're not within my tribe so I don't need to give a shit about them" lead your way of thinking in this day and age.

On August 02 2016 11:38 GoTuNk! wrote:
Free college is the worse idea ever. For starters there is no free anything, someone else is paying for it.
Secondly, it's just another step in the way to socialism.

All it does is create even more useless degrees and keep raising the prices of education because of the endless demand created by the state.

Surely the solution then will become that the mighty state will have to regulate courses available/and or prices. Later, this will not seem enough, and the government will acquire the universities all together.

Edit: This is how they are ruining my country atm, btw.

On August 02 2016 11:50 Slaughter wrote:
Any free university would have to require mass restructuring of how universities are. They are way too bloated to atm to make that work in the US.



Tell that to Europe. Just because your country failed to implement a system properly for whatever reason doesn't mean the system is evil.

On August 02 2016 11:54 GoTuNk! wrote:


Europe is not a country, please specify one. The price of free college, a minimum 40% income tax and 20% VAT is a ruined country in my opinion. Or a broke government, like Argentina.

Even if a country can afford free college, it does not mean it is necessary a positive thing.

On August 02 2016 11:57 Slaughter wrote:


Doesn't mean its a bad thing either. The fact that you ignore the success stories and just declare something evil is silly.

Back in 1968, at the age of 22, Donald J. Trump seemed the picture of health.

He stood 6 feet 2 inches with an athletic build; had played football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf. His medical history was unblemished, aside from a routine appendectomy when he was 10.

But after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.

The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.

The deferment was one of five Mr. Trump received during Vietnam. The others were for education.

His experience during the era is drawing new scrutiny after the Muslim American parents of a soldier who was killed in Iraq publicly questioned whether Mr. Trump had ever sacrificed for his country. In an emotional speech at the Democratic National Convention last week, the soldier’s father, Khizr Khan, directly addressed Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, saying, “You have sacrificed nothing and no one.”

Mr. Trump’s public statements about his draft experience sometimes conflict with his Selective Service records, and he is often hazy in recalling details.

In an interview with The New York Times last month, Mr. Trump said the bone spurs had been “temporary” — a “minor” malady that had not had a meaningful impact on him. He said he had visited a doctor who provided him a letter for draft officials, who granted him the medical exemption. He could not remember the doctor’s name.

“I had a doctor that gave me a letter — a very strong letter on the heels,” Mr. Trump said in the interview.

Asked to provide The Times with a copy of the letter, which he had obtained after his fourth student deferment, Mr. Trump said he would have to look for it. A spokeswoman later did not respond to repeated requests for copies of it.

The Selective Service records that remain in the National Archives — many have been discarded — do not specify what medical condition exempted Mr. Trump from military service.

Mr. Trump has described the condition as heel spurs, which are protrusions caused by calcium built up on the heel bone, treated through stretching, orthotics or sometimes surgery.

Mr. Trump said that he could not recall exactly when he was no longer bothered by the spurs, but that he had not had an operation for the problem.

On August 02 2016 11:48 GoTuNk! wrote:


It seems you have not read any history or understand anything on how the world works, and simply like the word "social".

Capitalism is freely doing business with other people, and benefiting each other. Withing that context, charity is voluntarily giving to others. freely.

Socialism is a dictatorship of the state that confiscates from one group of people to give it to other group of people. It has nothing voluntary, or free. The nasty side effects of it can be seen on non-african countries where people starve to death, like North Korea or more recently, Venezuela.