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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On June 21 2016 21:58 Plansix wrote: Jesus. I knew he had limited infrastructure, but I didn't think it was zero. Isnt the republican party supposed to aid his campaign financially? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22344 Posts
On June 21 2016 22:21 NukeD wrote: Isnt the republican party supposed to aid his campaign financially? They help, they normally don't have to do everything themselves. Which seems to be the case now. It is normally the candidate themselves that has a large infrastructure set up, you know from running their primary campaign. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 21 2016 22:27 Gorsameth wrote: They help, they normally don't have to do everything themselves. Which seems to be the case now. It is normally the candidate themselves that has a large infrastructure set up, you know from running their primary campaign. That and the GOP has to help with all the state and local elections nationwide. Putting together a winning primary and general election team is part of the process of becoming president. The people who work on getting the president elected normally go on to become part of the administration. When the president gets to the White House, it doesn’t have any staff beyond the people who care for the White House itself. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
That and the FEC filing of what Trump has spent his money on is hilarious. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:00 Plansix wrote: The last time around Romney has 100 million cash on hand by this point. He was fully staffed up and ready to go. People are not being hysterical. This is comically bad. That and the FEC filing of what Trump has spent his money on is hilarious. Why are we comparing tp Romney who pathetically failed? Money doesn't exclusively win you the election. I think trump proved that in the primaries. It builds into his narrative that "i perform the best and i spend the least". The thing is he has access to money, whether directly from himself or his company or through potential donors. I wouldn't really call this a travesty yet. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:00 Plansix wrote: The last time around Romney has 100 million cash on hand by this point. He was fully staffed up and ready to go. People are not being hysterical. This is comically bad. That and the FEC filing of what Trump has spent his money on is hilarious. Can you elaborate on what he spent money on? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:04 SolaR- wrote: Why are we comparing tp Romney who pathetically failed? Money doesn't exclusively win you the election. I think trump proved that in the primaries. It builds into his narrative that "i perform the best and i spend the least". The thing is he has access to money, whether directly from himself or his company or through potential donors. I wouldn't really call this a travesty yet. Don't belittle his campaign just because he lost. Remember that 59+ Million people voted for Romney despite him losing while only 54+ million people voted for reagan when he won against mondale. Obama just did better than Romney, that doesn't mean his campaign failed to perform. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
He spent money with an ad agency named after the one in Mad Men. He's paying himself a salary. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
There are a bunch of Trump related services, including Trump Quality Wine. 23K was paid to some company called wizbangsolution.com for “device services”. Their webpage was a joy to view. Just some real quality comedy. But a ton of Trump related services and other services that he appears to own. I am sure people will dig into it more, but a lot of the money seems to go right into Trump business ventures. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:20 Plansix wrote: There are a bunch of Trump related services, including Trump Quality Wine. 23K was paid to some company called wizbangsolution.com for “device services”. Their webpage was a joy to view. Just some real quality comedy. But a ton of Trump related services and other services that he appears to own. I am sure people will dig into it more, but a lot of the money seems to go right into Trump business ventures. ........amazing. On June 21 2016 23:13 Thieving Magpie wrote: Don't belittle his campaign just because he lost. Remember that 59+ Million people voted for Romney despite him losing while only 54+ million people voted for reagan when he won against mondale. Obama just did better than Romney, that doesn't mean his campaign failed to perform. Its so weird seeing republicans demonize Romney. He was the party's hope at a future. But because he lost, it's as if he's a complete nobody. Imagine if the GOP fashioned itself after Romney. They'd probably be well positioned right now. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:13 Thieving Magpie wrote: Don't belittle his campaign just because he lost. Remember that 59+ Million people voted for Romney despite him losing while only 54+ million people voted for reagan when he won against mondale. Obama just did better than Romney, that doesn't mean his campaign failed to perform. U.s population was significantly less in 1980 than today. Reagan did better percentage wise than Romney did. About a half percent better to be exact. If you compare to the 1984 election, Reagan did 4.31% better than romney did in 2012. On June 21 2016 23:25 Mohdoo wrote: Its so weird seeing republicans demonize Romney. He was the party's hope at a future. But because he lost, it's as if he's a complete nobody. Imagine if the GOP fashioned itself after Romney. They'd probably be well positioned right now. I wouldn't consider myself strictly republican. I always hated Romney and voted for Gary Johnson the last election. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On June 21 2016 14:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I wish I could say the same about you but from my perspective it's unfortunately just sad rather than funny. So you want Donald Trump, the Apprentice Mentor himself to be commander in chief? Ah, so you're an immigration voter? LOL I'd bet $50 right now that you care most about immigration w/r/t Trump. That's all Trumpkins have to go on. Just lol at the notion you want him to be commander in chief. He's not even an impressive businessman. I am going to have a LOT of fun rubbing in Trump's loss in November (and for 6 months after that). User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:13 Thieving Magpie wrote: It's the electoral college system in this republic. Reagan won twice as many states for two and a half times Romneys count of electors. False historical comparisons aside, Trump better lay the foundation for a national campaign and raise enough dough to make even a shoestring budget hold. He can't ride the free press train forever in battleground states. Don't belittle his campaign just because he lost. Remember that 59+ Million people voted for Romney despite him losing while only 54+ million people voted for reagan when he won against mondale. Obama just did better than Romney, that doesn't mean his campaign failed to perform. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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KwarK
United States43972 Posts
On June 22 2016 01:17 Doodsmack wrote: So you want Donald Trump, the Apprentice Mentor himself to be commander in chief? Ah, so you're an immigration voter? LOL I'd bet $50 right now that you care most about immigration w/r/t Trump. That's all Trumpkins have to go on. Just lol at the notion you want him to be commander in chief. He's not even an impressive businessman. I am going to have a LOT of fun rubbing in Trump's loss in November (and for 6 months after that). These are the kind of high quality posts that got the topic locked. | ||
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
On June 21 2016 23:20 Plansix wrote: There are a bunch of Trump related services, including Trump Quality Wine. 23K was paid to some company called wizbangsolution.com for “device services”. Their webpage was a joy to view. Just some real quality comedy. But a ton of Trump related services and other services that he appears to own. I am sure people will dig into it more, but a lot of the money seems to go right into Trump business ventures. It keeps getting better. Reporters fund presidential campaign trips. "Most Americans don’t know that reporters finance the bulk of presidential candidates’ campaign travel, by buying seats on the candidate’s charter plane." Trump is flying to Scotland to be there for a ribbon cutting ceremony on one of his properties. Trump is selling tickets on his charter plane for $10,000 a piece to reporters to go watch him to generate Trump stories. The entire scampaign is just a ruse to make some cash and build his brand. "Cost to reporters: $10,000 round trip, plus hotel and restaurant bills, which will probably be racked up at the two Trump-themed venues they’ll be visiting — if anyone signs up." http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/will-reporters-pay-for-donald-trumps-scotland-trip/ | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 22 2016 02:09 CannonsNCarriers wrote: It keeps getting better. Reporters fund presidential campaign trips. "Most Americans don’t know that reporters finance the bulk of presidential candidates’ campaign travel, by buying seats on the candidate’s charter plane." Trump is flying to Scotland to be there for a ribbon cutting ceremony on one of his properties. Trump is selling tickets on his charter plane for $10,000 a piece to reporters to go watch him to generate Trump stories. The entire scampaign is just a ruse to make some cash and build his brand. "Cost to reporters: $10,000 round trip, plus hotel and restaurant bills, which will probably be racked up at the two Trump-themed venues they’ll be visiting — if anyone signs up." http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/will-reporters-pay-for-donald-trumps-scotland-trip/ Still, he's loaned his campaign about 40m. Nickel and diming reporters isn't going to make him whole. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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